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Advice on VX cruisers

Postby Big » Sun Jan 25, 2015 3:16 pm

Howdy all, Im stuck at which truck to get for a tow wagon.. looking at a recond 12v done millions of kms but bugger all since recond OR 350+km on a 24 valve model..? Can someone tell me any major probs with the 24 valve model? as I know big ends etc and a big thing for the 12 valve model,
Add intercoolers to both and they will go great.. anything else I should be aware of? both are auto's as manuals are hard to find..

Anyone got some sound advice and or steer clear advice..? cheers loads K

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Postby mudlva » Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:58 pm

24v all the way plus i/c. Awesome
Plus a Big ass tranz cooler sorted...

Be awere that the autos lockup needs attention every 250-350k

Thats about it really

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Postby wjw » Mon Jan 26, 2015 5:16 am

+1 I agree 24v would be best,
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Postby hamishh » Mon Jan 26, 2015 6:41 am

24v is the way to go

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Postby kiwipete » Mon Jan 26, 2015 5:35 pm

mudlva wrote:24v all the way plus i/c. Awesome
Plus a Big ass tranz cooler sorted...

Be awere that the autos lockup needs attention every 250-350k

Thats about it really

What is it about the Auto lockup that needs attention?
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Postby mudlva » Mon Jan 26, 2015 6:06 pm

Talking to auto repair in otahuhu ak. he told me to be awere that the lock up clutches start to glaze.
Once it wears to a certain part it strips the glaze and the " bits" travel through the system creating more damage.
He said that once you start getting a shuddering when coming off cruising down to a stop its the sign that the glaze is starting to wear and time for repair.
He also said "fit a big ass trans cooler" and the boxes are super strong if maintained. Just be awere of the lock up issue.
He also said that there is no after market stuff available to make them strong cause they already are

Haha now you know as much as me.
Which at the end of the day isn't much

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Postby Big » Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:24 pm

Thanks guys.. this is very informative.. I'm just torn between a recond 12v with some basic of mods..( intercooler, lifted and snorkel ) or a 24v that's done 370kms and is 3-4k dearer.. :( and is original.. what to do..

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Postby Big » Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:38 pm

Just a thought.. does the lockup clutchs repair need the auto to be out? knowing the 1uzfe box I'm thinking yes..? so basically a recon box anyway? have to factor this in..lol

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Postby mudlva » Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:51 pm

Yes the box has to be removed as they need to open up the torque converter.
Auto man said that rebuild is not generally required if auto has been maintained

Its a bit like saying "rebuild your manual box because you are doing a clutch"

Up to you of course

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Postby Big » Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:59 pm

with that being said now.. I take most auto shops would have one on the shelf to swap etc..?

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Re: Advice on VX cruisers

Postby mudlva » Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:01 pm

Big wrote:Just a thought.. does the lockup clutchs repair need the auto to be out? knowing the 1uzfe box I'm thinking yes..? so basically a recon box anyway? have to factor this in..lol


Something else is that both autos may require repair. I just bought it up as the only issue with the auto is the lock up system. Unless the rebuilt 12v has had the t/c looked at it is proberly more at risk due to more k's on the clock.

Imho i would treat it as maintenance and buy the 24v anyway.

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Re: Advice on VX cruisers

Postby Lchundy » Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:50 pm

I brought a 24v auto not long ago with more ks than the one your looking at,all seems good.
Its does have a full service history from new,which made me not so worried about the mileage

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Postby imsohi » Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:44 am

Hey K

im loving my 12v i have just got a few minor things need doing on the list are things you have listed but seams a good all round truck auto TC is on the list as its done 360kms but other than that its a mint truck love it. Just a question whats the advantages of 24 over 12 for my future reference?

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Postby fullthrottle » Tue Jan 27, 2015 7:03 am

Hey

I'm fairly new to the 80 scene. Picked up my 12v 80 a few weeks back and loving it. Does everything I need. Tow, fits the family, capable offroad.

Here are my list of things to look out for:

- Rust around the rear side windows.
- Window motors are crap, make sure they work and the windows haven't popped out of their holders.
- Over 300k do the big end bearing caps for peace of mind.
- Check around the steering box mounts as they are prone to crack in that area. There is apparently a plate you can get to strengthen that area.
- Bottom swivel housing arms tend to come loose.
- Get the triple diff lock version (I did and it's great)
- The drivers seat outer padding seems to collapse fairly easily.
- Roof paint is usually stuffed, especially in our sun. Check how bad it is, i.e: surface rust already forming etc. Have heard you can rub fish oil all over it and it looks great again.

The only thing I can say (24v vs. 12v) I compared both and the 24v just seems a little more complex a motor. Starting to get into the plumbers nightmare. The 12v seems to have a much more simpler layout.

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Re: Advice on VX cruisers

Postby Big » Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:44 pm

imsohi wrote:Hey K

im loving my 12v i have just got a few minor things need doing on the list are things you have listed but seams a good all round truck auto TC is on the list as its done 360kms but other than that its a mint truck love it. Just a question whats the advantages of 24 over 12 for my future reference?

Cheers Leigh

I hear L.. but from what I have heard.. 24v is rated to tow 3500kgs and the 12v is rated only for 2500kgs..? better fuel economy from the 24v as well.. more power 24v.. bigger brakes etc.. much better auto but are prone to the same problems as the 12v auto.. 24v need big ends done as does the 12v model.. But for me Im thinking the 24v due to it's 3500kg tow rating along with tweak it and much better performance etc.. Get a auto kit from overseas and rebuild auto, then all good.. but heading towards the 24v at this stage..would love a manual 24v but as they are like rockin horse shyt.. don't like my chances.. :roll: tata

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Re: Advice on VX cruisers

Postby derk » Tue Jan 27, 2015 7:20 pm

^^^
if your wanting a 24v for the higher tow rating go have a look at the ltsa/nzta or whatever they call themselves now website you don't have to adhere to a vehicles tow rating you can exceed it but have to comply within the braking requirements towing the load

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Re: Advice on VX cruisers

Postby wopass » Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:33 am

get the one that has lockers?
If you already know everything, DON'T ask bloody questions!!

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Re: Advice on VX cruisers

Postby Big » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:19 pm

wopass wrote:get the one that has lockers?

trying to.. :mrgreen: but you know.. shit happens and may not end up with them.. we'll see :roll:

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Re: Advice on VX cruisers

Postby zukmeista » Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:32 pm

Low k's, 24v, twin lockers. what more could you need? :D
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/toyota/auction-839605381.htm

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Postby Big » Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:48 pm

lexlux wrote:http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=820244593
heres another .
zukmeista wrote:Low k's, 24v, twin lockers. what more could you need? :D
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/toyota/auction-839605381.htm

Im totally hearing you guys.. BUT at 20k+ mate.. :lol: Im looking at spending quite a bit less for a reasonable wagon.. If I have to moola sure.. but in reality.. I don't.. :cry: Thanks for the links though while I dribble over them.. :lol:

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Re: Advice on VX cruisers

Postby fullthrottle » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:22 pm

There's one on the Facebook page group: "4wd Mudhunters south island" if you have access.

Description:
1991 vx landcruiser on 16×10 rims 35inch mickey Thompsons arb bullbar ironman snorkel heavy duty struts and springs with adjustable shocks in the front led light bar and day runners 10k or swaps for a decent older v8 can get a bit of cash your way.
39x,xxx kms
Triple diff locks

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Postby fullthrottle » Mon Feb 02, 2015 9:41 am

If you're still looking a good one just popped up on Facebook page "4WD Parts/Trucks Swap/Buy Lower N.I NZ"

1993 VX Landcruiser
$9,000

Looking to move my Cruiser on.. will look at $$$ or Trade for Caldina GT4 or similar - Running on Mickey Ts 35's - Certed modifications.
Side port exhaust,OME suspension,winch w/plasma - DVD player.
4.2l diesel turbo auto kms are 267.000
Front and rear lockers

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Re: Advice on VX cruisers

Postby Jay » Mon Feb 02, 2015 10:35 am

fullthrottle wrote:If you're still looking a good one just popped up on Facebook page "4WD Parts/Trucks Swap/Buy Lower N.I NZ"

1993 VX Landcruiser
$9,000

Looking to move my Cruiser on.. will look at $$$ or Trade for Caldina GT4 or similar - Running on Mickey Ts 35's - Certed modifications.
Side port exhaust,OME suspension,winch w/plasma - DVD player.
4.2l diesel turbo auto kms are 267.000
Front and rear lockers



Gidday mate - very interested in this... have you got a number or can you get one? I can't comment on the post as i'm not a member of this group.

Cheers!

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Re: Advice on VX cruisers

Postby Jay » Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:38 am

Jay wrote:
fullthrottle wrote:If you're still looking a good one just popped up on Facebook page "4WD Parts/Trucks Swap/Buy Lower N.I NZ"

1993 VX Landcruiser
$9,000

Looking to move my Cruiser on.. will look at $$$ or Trade for Caldina GT4 or similar - Running on Mickey Ts 35's - Certed modifications.
Side port exhaust,OME suspension,winch w/plasma - DVD player.
4.2l diesel turbo auto kms are 267.000
Front and rear lockers



Gidday mate - very interested in this... have you got a number or can you get one? I can't comment on the post as i'm not a member of this group.

Cheers!

Jay



And don't worry thanks mate, I got the number... anddddd I just brought it haha.

Cheers!

Jay

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Re: Advice on VX cruisers

Postby fullthrottle » Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:21 pm

Jay wrote:
Jay wrote:
fullthrottle wrote:If you're still looking a good one just popped up on Facebook page "4WD Parts/Trucks Swap/Buy Lower N.I NZ"

1993 VX Landcruiser
$9,000

Looking to move my Cruiser on.. will look at $$$ or Trade for Caldina GT4 or similar - Running on Mickey Ts 35's - Certed modifications.
Side port exhaust,OME suspension,winch w/plasma - DVD player.
4.2l diesel turbo auto kms are 267.000
Front and rear lockers



Gidday mate - very interested in this... have you got a number or can you get one? I can't comment on the post as i'm not a member of this group.

Cheers!

Jay



And don't worry thanks mate, I got the number... anddddd I just brought it haha.

Cheers!

Jay


Congrats and welcome to the cruiser club :-)

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Re: Advice on VX cruisers

Postby Big » Mon Feb 02, 2015 4:35 pm

hahaha lucky I wasn't looking.. :lol: have got one myself.. but for a lot less and a recond motor with a few extra tidbits.. all will be revealed later :wink:

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Re: Advice on VX cruisers

Postby Jay » Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:17 am

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Congrats and welcome to the cruiser club :-)[/quote]

Haha thanks man.... I'm a lonnnggg time cruiser club member.... this is number 3 in my collection... :twisted:

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