g force
Re: g force
okay so took the springs out got the rear ones shortened about 30 mm they just cut out one coil and fitted them last weekend
heaps of room now i can actually see the axle
definite improvement over the previous ride height on the back
have put the new springs in the front these ones actually fit the ones they sent over originally looked so wrong i didn't even try to fit them and when yorick dropped them off to get them sorted the guy thought they might have been muddled up from another job
they are fitted now but without an engine in the front it isn't sitting where it will be so no point posting a pic
heaps of room now i can actually see the axle
definite improvement over the previous ride height on the back
have put the new springs in the front these ones actually fit the ones they sent over originally looked so wrong i didn't even try to fit them and when yorick dropped them off to get them sorted the guy thought they might have been muddled up from another job
they are fitted now but without an engine in the front it isn't sitting where it will be so no point posting a pic
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Re: g force
regards the fuel tank.......
You have a full ladder chassis, dont you?
If you do a wee body lift, you now have a place between the chassis cross members to put one or TWO tanks and be able to make slimline ones, and as they are BETWEEN to whe4els, and above the bottom of the chassis rails, are well away from stuff you may possibly hit when going over a lump etc.
Worth looking at.
What you think, De-ranged?
You have a full ladder chassis, dont you?
If you do a wee body lift, you now have a place between the chassis cross members to put one or TWO tanks and be able to make slimline ones, and as they are BETWEEN to whe4els, and above the bottom of the chassis rails, are well away from stuff you may possibly hit when going over a lump etc.
Worth looking at.
What you think, De-ranged?
Re: g force
Moriarty wrote:regards the fuel tank.......
You have a full ladder chassis, dont you?
If you do a wee body lift, you now have a place between the chassis cross members to put one or TWO tanks and be able to make slimline ones, and as they are BETWEEN to whe4els, and above the bottom of the chassis rails, are well away from stuff you may possibly hit when going over a lump etc.
Worth looking at.
What you think, De-ranged?
it may look like the tank is low but when you look at it from the side it doesn't look anywhere near as bad the bottom of the tank does ramp up quite a bit. i am not going to do anything with the tank at this stage got to take it out first and if the tank is still an issues will look at other things but considering i am thinking about a set of 33" tyres that will lift it up even more and give even better angles
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old mercedes never die but sometimes they do need some love
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Re: g force
okay had a bit of a setback today did some work on the g wagen put the new brake lines on they look so good now
then did a few other little things bolted the torque converter to the flywheel mounted the radiator so i could put oil in the trans
that is about where things started to take a turn
then decided it would be kewl to run it in now it is in the g so started it up and it was running for a few seconds
then it came to a sudden stop tried turning it over with the starter motor no go
put the bar on the crankshaft and the motor is solid no movement at all
so remove the rocker cover and discover the timing chain is broken loverly okay decide this needs more investigation drain the oil from the sump and remove the sump this is when i find something has got jammed between the oil pump drive chain the shaft in the oil pump looks like it is bent not sure for certain yet as i decided it was time to stop when i saw that mess
hopefully the shaft on the oil pump isn't bent if it is i am screwed
so am a little down in the dumps today
then did a few other little things bolted the torque converter to the flywheel mounted the radiator so i could put oil in the trans
that is about where things started to take a turn
then decided it would be kewl to run it in now it is in the g so started it up and it was running for a few seconds
then it came to a sudden stop tried turning it over with the starter motor no go
put the bar on the crankshaft and the motor is solid no movement at all
so remove the rocker cover and discover the timing chain is broken loverly okay decide this needs more investigation drain the oil from the sump and remove the sump this is when i find something has got jammed between the oil pump drive chain the shaft in the oil pump looks like it is bent not sure for certain yet as i decided it was time to stop when i saw that mess
hopefully the shaft on the oil pump isn't bent if it is i am screwed
so am a little down in the dumps today
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Re: g force
sorry to hear that merc, I had a bit of a shitter of a weekend aswell.
But look at the bright side, if it is stuffed then you can put the v8 in
But look at the bright side, if it is stuffed then you can put the v8 in
Re: g force
turoa wrote:But look at the bright side, if it is stuffed then you can put the v8 in
i've gone off the V8 idea but a 3 litre petrol inline six will go in quite nicely and give me about the same amount of power as the V8 with better fuel economy
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Re: g force
Check the hamilton Wreckers again, somebody has dismantled a 2.9 musso.
Re: g force
Moriarty wrote:Check the hamilton Wreckers again, somebody has dismantled a 2.9 musso.
i am not so keen on a diesel now especially the way diesel seems to be increasing in price more than petrol
with the current price and taking road user charges into account i am better off to have a petrol motor
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old mercedes never die but sometimes they do need some love
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Re: g force
okay got into the motor today to have a closer look at what happened last weekend
excuse the crap pics only had my cellphone
first thing removed the sump to find this
not kewl
the offending item
still not sure where it came from
cracked pump housing
and a slighty bent shaft on the oil pump
there is a bit of a silver lining there are scores on the inside of the pump and one of the gears had rust on it so not sure how long the pump would have lasted anyway
excuse the crap pics only had my cellphone
first thing removed the sump to find this
not kewl
the offending item
still not sure where it came from
cracked pump housing
and a slighty bent shaft on the oil pump
there is a bit of a silver lining there are scores on the inside of the pump and one of the gears had rust on it so not sure how long the pump would have lasted anyway
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Re: g force
So is the motor still salvagable.... is it just the oil pump and drive thats f@#ked?
Re: g force
yeah just the oil pump drive and timing chain got a price on an oil pump today $800
thats more than i paid for the whole motor
thats more than i paid for the whole motor
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Re: g force
wel instead of fixing it you could put in
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 748525.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 547077.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 438807.htm
just some ideas
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 748525.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 547077.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 438807.htm
just some ideas
Re: g force
i did a similar thought but i was thinking more along these lines
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Car-parts-accessories/MercedesBenz/auction-162983249.htm
unfortunately that is a little out of my budget but this could do the trick
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=163498718
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Car-parts-accessories/MercedesBenz/auction-162983249.htm
unfortunately that is a little out of my budget but this could do the trick
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=163498718
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Re: g force
Nah mate stay away from all that mercedes and european stuff and search out the auctions mitch posted...... the oil pumps and other bits are much cheaper
Re: g force
the only reason i am having issues with the oil pump is the cheap arse mechanic i am using besides if i get this motor sorted it will last another 500,000 ks without too much hassle
mind you the M110 which is the 2.8litre dohc motor has a good rep and as a result i can get one for peanuts because the motors never die and most people when doing mods use one of the V8s
the M110 had 185hp at the end of it's production run which is enough
or i could get an M104 which produces around 200hp
mind you the M110 which is the 2.8litre dohc motor has a good rep and as a result i can get one for peanuts because the motors never die and most people when doing mods use one of the V8s
the M110 had 185hp at the end of it's production run which is enough
or i could get an M104 which produces around 200hp
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Re: g force
but the v8s have more hp and its more impressive when you say "i have a big block v8"
Re: g force
i'd rather have a six and use it properly
the ultimate would be a 6 litre V12
the ultimate would be a 6 litre V12
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Re: g force
my boss has a 6l v12 beamer motor in his series 1 or 2 land rover, it makes over 4300nm of torque. and thats only with a after market computer inlet pipes and extractors, that would be awsome in you merc
Re: g force
i thought they only made a 5 litre v12 i could be wrong
he would have been better off with a merc V12 not that i am biased
he would have been better off with a merc V12 not that i am biased
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Re: g force
mercutio wrote:i thought they only made a 5 litre v12 i could be wrong
he would have been better off with a merc V12 not that i am biased
no he wouldnt, bmw v12's only weigh 180kg
Re: g force
here is a couple of better pics of the remains of my oil pump
the housing
the gears
the housing
the gears
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Re: g force
Whats happening with your truck Merc or has it been pushed into the back of the shed for a few months
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Re: g force
Sadam_Husain wrote:Whats happening with your truck Merc or has it been pushed into the back of the shed for a few months
Update time:
well since the incident with the oil pump it has been on hold while i tried to source another one but haven't had much luck with that so am looking at options
main options are a petrol repower
or fitting the turbo and inj pump off the turbo motor to the original motor
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old mercedes never die but sometimes they do need some love
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Re: g force
i just realised i haven't kept you guys up to date with the latest
on the 15th of august went up to auckland to get this
loaded it up about 9pm on a friday night then drove back to my place and then took it down to yoricks on saturday morning towed it behind his g wagen did quite well considering it has only got 88hp
here it is parked in yoricks shed
and this is the reason i bought it ran it while it was in the car fired straight away sounds sweet as the oil in it is almost new apparently a garage had swapped the engine but the owner left the country and eventually the garage sold it to recover costs
so on the sunday the engine was out of the car
i'm heading down there today to make a start on doing the swap my biggest issue will be sorting out the engine mounts as i will have to fab some and sorting out the fuel system as it has fuel infection and i will have to sort out the pump will be interesting
on the 15th of august went up to auckland to get this
loaded it up about 9pm on a friday night then drove back to my place and then took it down to yoricks on saturday morning towed it behind his g wagen did quite well considering it has only got 88hp
here it is parked in yoricks shed
and this is the reason i bought it ran it while it was in the car fired straight away sounds sweet as the oil in it is almost new apparently a garage had swapped the engine but the owner left the country and eventually the garage sold it to recover costs
so on the sunday the engine was out of the car
i'm heading down there today to make a start on doing the swap my biggest issue will be sorting out the engine mounts as i will have to fab some and sorting out the fuel system as it has fuel infection and i will have to sort out the pump will be interesting
my 4wd is not a truck
old mercedes never die but sometimes they do need some love
older cars are good,mercedes are better,older mercedes are the best
old mercedes never die but sometimes they do need some love
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Re: g force
woohoo it is sitting in the hole
tis getting a bit close here
and have to rethink my engine mounts i measured and measured again and then cut and drilled but made them using the original engine as a guide but the intake manifold on this engine sticks out and hits the left hand shock tower when i try to use my fabbed mounts
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old mercedes never die but sometimes they do need some love
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Re: g force
so did a bit of research on pointed three g wagen forums and learnt the g engine has a different intake manifold to the car engine
luckily i know where there is one but not sure if he is willing to seperate it from the engine
luckily i know where there is one but not sure if he is willing to seperate it from the engine
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Re: g force
Is this thing ever going to see a track? Its a bit like coro street...... just keeps going and going but never actually gets far! Anyway..... hope to see it doing some mud spashing one day! Keep up the good work
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Re: g force
hey it does see mud
but only for short periods
have got much planned for the weekend even taking tomorrow off work to do some stuff on it
rang that guy about the g wagen intake and he is willing to sell as long as i buy the transmission that yorick has been eyeing up
then will try and fit the motor again hopefully things will fit better with that manifold
then got to figure out the fuel system and the ignition system and it might be running
but only for short periods
have got much planned for the weekend even taking tomorrow off work to do some stuff on it
rang that guy about the g wagen intake and he is willing to sell as long as i buy the transmission that yorick has been eyeing up
then will try and fit the motor again hopefully things will fit better with that manifold
then got to figure out the fuel system and the ignition system and it might be running
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old mercedes never die but sometimes they do need some love
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Re: g force
had a most productive week on the g
rang the guy with the old g wagen engine and asked him if he was willing to sell the intake manifold
he said i could have the engine and trans for $400
i said yeah because yorick is keen on putting the auto trans in his g
on friday chatted to the local cert guy and he basically confirmed what i thought that basically all he was worried about was making sure the engine mounts were welded by a competent welder i said i was planning on fabbing them but would get someone to weld them he then gave me a number of someone who quite enjoys doing cert type stuff so that is sweet
he also mentioned i will need a drive shaft loop on the front drive shaft but i think i may not need one as the front driveshaft runs above a major chassis member but i will check this out with him again
saturday went to get the engine and trans and he wasn't there so oh well back to the workshop and more tinkering noticed i had more clearance issues with the oil filter housing and oil lines and also the power steering pump so was thinking about them trying to figure how to solve them
also gave yorick a bit of a hand with his latest project
sunday
went and picked up the g engine and trans (rang him beforehand this time) noticed when i picked it up that it has a different oil filter housing and power steering bracket so my major clearance issues were solved just like that
so now my motor is sitting in the g in position just got to get the mounts made up and she will be bolted into place then i have to figure out what i am going to do with the fuel and ignition systems
rang the guy with the old g wagen engine and asked him if he was willing to sell the intake manifold
he said i could have the engine and trans for $400
i said yeah because yorick is keen on putting the auto trans in his g
on friday chatted to the local cert guy and he basically confirmed what i thought that basically all he was worried about was making sure the engine mounts were welded by a competent welder i said i was planning on fabbing them but would get someone to weld them he then gave me a number of someone who quite enjoys doing cert type stuff so that is sweet
he also mentioned i will need a drive shaft loop on the front drive shaft but i think i may not need one as the front driveshaft runs above a major chassis member but i will check this out with him again
saturday went to get the engine and trans and he wasn't there so oh well back to the workshop and more tinkering noticed i had more clearance issues with the oil filter housing and oil lines and also the power steering pump so was thinking about them trying to figure how to solve them
also gave yorick a bit of a hand with his latest project
sunday
went and picked up the g engine and trans (rang him beforehand this time) noticed when i picked it up that it has a different oil filter housing and power steering bracket so my major clearance issues were solved just like that
so now my motor is sitting in the g in position just got to get the mounts made up and she will be bolted into place then i have to figure out what i am going to do with the fuel and ignition systems
my 4wd is not a truck
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older cars are good,mercedes are better,older mercedes are the best
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Re: g force
So does the engine out of that mafia car bolt straight up to your trans? Which bell housing are you using?
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