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stretching 410 chassis

Postby chrome » Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:32 pm

does anyone see any benefits in lengthining a sj410 by a foot or so?? less wheel lift maybe im unsure which direction to head in on this project. at this stage all i have done is cut out the guards to fit 31s and whacked off the body behind the seats with the intention of chopping into a ute with a caged cab. lengthining may be better for carring the fuel tank and spare and some gear any thoughts?

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Re: stretching 410 chassis

Postby chrome » Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:59 pm

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Re: stretching 410 chassis

Postby mroffroader » Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:27 pm

The white one is a LWB we didnt get many LWB 410's and 413's except genuine truck cabs which there is a few of....not so many soft tops like the white one tho. If you've chopped it lengthing it is not a bad idea.....better fro climbing! but need to watch axle wrap, my 410 ute used to get a bita axle wrap and blow rear driveshaft UJ's :lol:

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Re: stretching 410 chassis

Postby redzuki » Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:03 am

[quote="mroffroader"]The white one is a LWB we didnt get many LWB 410's and 413's except genuine truck cabs which there is a few of....not so many soft tops like the white one tho. If you've chopped it lengthing it is not a bad idea.....better fro climbing! but need to watch axle wrap, my 410 ute used to get a bita axle wrap and blow rear driveshaft UJ's :lol:

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Most of your axle wrap was caused because you took lots of leaves out of the spring packs to get it to flex , as there was alot less weight on the rear than before .( The leafs were set up to handle a big mound of fire wood etc on the massive tray it used to have )

I'm prety sure mro also found that when he put a spare tyre on the back of his truck the was not much space for anything else and when you did put other stuff on the rear (strops , spare parts, trials pegs etc ) you had to tie it down really well so you didnt loss it . Am i right james ?
This might give you a few things to think about when you make up your tray.

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Re: stretching 410 chassis

Postby flyingbrick » Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:42 am

wow, blue truck second pic! whats that paint finish?
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Re: stretching 410 chassis

Postby chrome » Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:31 pm

not sure mate, some yank built it

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Re: stretching 410 chassis

Postby icekayak » Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:42 pm

flyingbrick wrote:wow, blue truck second pic! whats that paint finish?

May have been rhino liner....

The white one is a LWB we didnt get many LWB 410's and 413's except genuine truck cabs which there is a few of....not so many soft tops like the white one tho.


Yep I've only every heard of two LWB SJ413's soft tops in NZ (One was a Sierra Aussi Import) and its in Auckland, the other a Samurai Wide track. You see LWB SJ410's pop up on trademe every so often from time to time

In aussi/states a quite a few people add a bit onto the front of the chassis to put jeep/toyota rears up front (RUF) to get longer wheelbase and longer springs, more flex etc. But in terms of storage space you don't gain anything...

If your going longer though you may as well go wider too...

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Re: stretching 410 chassis

Postby chrome » Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:12 pm

i agree. gave it a bit of a weight reduction tonight chopped heaps off it

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Re: stretching 410 chassis

Postby meatc » Sat Aug 01, 2009 9:09 am

Coil the rear and just move the axle back. Moved mine back about 200mm form memory and with 33s the rear of the tyre is inline with the rear of the chassis. Coil the front and move the front forward about 75mm and get fire wall clearance for 33s with no body lift. (just have to do major virtual lift for flex) Just and option for you.

But as mentioned above the LWB chassis could be an option. Wheel base is about 250mm longer (I think :?: ) and there is chassis behind the rear spring hanger so axle could go back a bit more if you wanted.
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Re: stretching 410 chassis

Postby chrome » Sat Aug 01, 2009 12:27 pm

if i was to coil it what would be an ideal donor for spings and parts?? something will have to be done soon as the leaves i have are shot

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Re: stretching 410 chassis

Postby meatc » Sat Aug 01, 2009 8:36 pm

I used rangi radius arms and lower rears with custom upper a arm. Springs :?: :?: :?: Depends on all sorts of things like ride height, flex wanted, use etc. I'm currently using r32 skyline rears in the rear and 94 prelude rears in the front. Lenghts are pretty good but could be a touch soft. Once I sort it to how I want I will prob go buy new springs inthe length and rate I want.

You could use anything for arms really just try and get the chassis mounts. I didnt and there is a heap of work in fabbing them.
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Re: stretching 410 chassis

Postby chrome » Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:20 pm

bit of a mix and match there aye. do you have any pictures ofit :D

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Re: stretching 410 chassis

Postby meatc » Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:16 am

Its most definatly a mongrel. Zuk chassis and tub, nissan silvia engine and auto, hilux trans and axles, 60 series power steer and lots of custom stuff in between.

There are a few pic in the (not very up to date build thread) http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/Forums/viewtopic.php?t=11955

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410 flatdeck build project

Postby chrome » Sun Aug 02, 2009 6:05 pm

gonna turn this into a build thread, instead of havin spread around the other sections. like the thrash 410 thread. turoa put up a link to an outerlimits coil build and that answered heaps of questions for me. so im about to go on a parts mission and see whats out there. heres some clearer snaps of what i got done on friday night. gotta fill in the tops of the doors and weld up everything i chopped out and build the cage and flat deck area, next will be springs depending on parts and im also thinking of ripping out all the xtra wiring in the dash and engine bay. i also scored a race seat and a ali fuel tank and the old style race harness out of the demon monstertuck that used to be kiwi thunder so heres to recycling aye :D

that roll bar will end up getting sold so if anyone wants a cheap bar to weld or bolt in let me know

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Re: stretching 410 chassis

Postby turoa » Sun Aug 02, 2009 6:53 pm

You gonna stick that commy motor in :wink:

Maybe for your beast (If its offroad only) just do a simple link setup instead of radius arms. It flexes heaps better that radius arms do, and an a frame for the rear or something. Im sure you took enough photos of shanes zook to know what im on about :mrgreen:

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Re: stretching 410 chassis

Postby chrome » Sun Aug 02, 2009 7:13 pm

IM WORKING ON GETTING THAT MOTOR, just working out a price. ive been looking at all kinds of setups aye; theres a lot of choice out there i just not sure if i want this budget build to turn into something too costly :mrgreen: :mrgreen: first things first get it caged and USE IT. then make some decisions. :D

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Re: stretching 410 chassis

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Re: stretching 410 chassis

Postby Bolo » Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:38 pm

got anymore photos of your new UTEZUK :mrgreen:
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Re: stretching 410 chassis

Postby chrome » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:26 pm

na not yet, gonna try and weld up the doors tomorrow night and fit the old tailgate behind the seats. got the rest of the old tray off today so will give it all a clean up then figure out my cage and deck, i get my ali fuel tank tomorrow too. still on the hunt for some cheap standard springs. i know partworld has some but im still negotiating :mrgreen:

i might copy these front guards they look mean and give some more room to move the front diff fowards to clear the wheels

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Re: stretching 410 chassis

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Re: stretching 410 chassis

Postby chrome » Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:20 pm

thats what im talkin about :twisted:

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Re: stretching 410 chassis

Postby chrome » Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:57 pm

made up some extended shackles today to replace the poo ones that were on there, gonna be welding for a while id say got heaps to do doors and rear infill panel and rear of the cab where its been whipped of with the 9"

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Re: stretching 410 chassis

Postby chrome » Fri Aug 07, 2009 7:32 pm

got the tops of the doors tacked up this week,also removed all the old tray and got a good start on my cage and deck.

gave it a bit of a tune up too (badly i might add) :oops:
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Re: stretching 410 chassis

Postby chrome » Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:01 pm

got it all welded and tuned properly today, got the raceseat and harness in on drivers side, gotta move the fuel tank and cut out the rear rossmember then add a rear recovery point on some beefy shs then build the deck.
then i can remake that poo front bar. also gotta bend up a front hoop and then tie them both together

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Re: stretching 410 chassis

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Re: stretching 410 chassis

Postby chrome » Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:26 pm

no pics today, it looks the same as the one above still skid just the seat looks different

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Re: stretching 410 chassis

Postby chrome » Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:04 pm

thought i would rethink my rear hoop today. it looked poo and wasnt wide enough, i didn like it . so here is the new and improved cage, still unfinished and i dont think it will be done by the weekend but i am glad im not going to rush it and end up with a shitter that i hate. this gives more head room and is wider than the seats now, the other is still hiding on there im just using it to brace the other while i weld it :D

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Re: stretching 410 chassis

Postby Lynx » Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:14 am

Looking Good Man

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Re: stretching 410 chassis

Postby Bolo » Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:36 am

Update time Please :mrgreen:
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Re: stretching 410 chassis

Postby chrome » Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:42 am

well as it turns out i got the day off to play with this today, beats working aye
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