2jz Hilux. cont'd..?
2jz Hilux. cont'd..?
Hi all
Well i thought i might start a build thread for my hilux as now done a few things to it, and had some decent seat time and can now call it my own...
I got it in may 09,
It used to be another ORE members (Philux's) and heres its build thread http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/Forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=7160
Anyway heres some pics of when i got it
First decent mud...
Mods it already had
-2jz
-Duals (4.7 gears)
-4.8 diffs
-Wide rear axle
-Auto locker rear
-Lsd front
-Rears up front
-Crossover/histeer setup
-37" Creepys on 15x10 cragars
-Snorkel/front and rear bars etc
P.S: I used Transpro car transporters to bring it up from Christchurch and recommend never to use them...
It took over two weeks to arrive, went to auckland for a weekend and back (im near whakatane) had to pay more than quoted price (after pickup), got damaged on the way (bonnet flew up after some clown must have undone bonnet pins, company blamed it on high winds... ) and the main guy Shahil had no clue about anything, didnt have any answers whenever i rang...
Rant over haha
What ive done
Moved radiator to rear,
Used 32mm (purple stained ) stainless pipe, duplex grade which is apparently stupidly strong.
And a few bends i managed to find/borrow and buy. Also got 2m of some flexi rad hose off trademe which worked really well was impressed with quality of it.
Had to make brackets out of some threaded galv steel as they all varied in length and bolted up through floor...
Runs along top chassis rail in front,
Under passenger side floor...
Over x-member under rear seat... Had to cut and reshape floor inside cab (no pic yet)
Toward rear then up through tray...
It holds about 12litres of coolant
Had an air lock at first but took top outlet pipe off at engine filled it up and was away.
Has only got hot once since (about 5months) but had slight airlock again and needed more fluid.
So all in all very happy with it, used to get hot at slow speeds now stays at constant temp and also made way for winch
Its an old Warn M8000. got it for $500 so cant complain.
Didnt want winch hanging off, getting in way and reducing approach angle so made custom mount to slip over spring hanger and fairlead nicely flush with bars. Control box mounted up and accessed through grill
Few more pics (gotta love em )
Green 'lux is mates has 1uz lift 35"s etc
Big ruts!!!
Heres the old mans LN106 was standard until i got mine
Anyway thats enough for now will try keep updated...
Doin rear disk conversion atm
Well i thought i might start a build thread for my hilux as now done a few things to it, and had some decent seat time and can now call it my own...
I got it in may 09,
It used to be another ORE members (Philux's) and heres its build thread http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/Forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=7160
Anyway heres some pics of when i got it
First decent mud...
Mods it already had
-2jz
-Duals (4.7 gears)
-4.8 diffs
-Wide rear axle
-Auto locker rear
-Lsd front
-Rears up front
-Crossover/histeer setup
-37" Creepys on 15x10 cragars
-Snorkel/front and rear bars etc
P.S: I used Transpro car transporters to bring it up from Christchurch and recommend never to use them...
It took over two weeks to arrive, went to auckland for a weekend and back (im near whakatane) had to pay more than quoted price (after pickup), got damaged on the way (bonnet flew up after some clown must have undone bonnet pins, company blamed it on high winds... ) and the main guy Shahil had no clue about anything, didnt have any answers whenever i rang...
Rant over haha
What ive done
Moved radiator to rear,
Used 32mm (purple stained ) stainless pipe, duplex grade which is apparently stupidly strong.
And a few bends i managed to find/borrow and buy. Also got 2m of some flexi rad hose off trademe which worked really well was impressed with quality of it.
Had to make brackets out of some threaded galv steel as they all varied in length and bolted up through floor...
Runs along top chassis rail in front,
Under passenger side floor...
Over x-member under rear seat... Had to cut and reshape floor inside cab (no pic yet)
Toward rear then up through tray...
It holds about 12litres of coolant
Had an air lock at first but took top outlet pipe off at engine filled it up and was away.
Has only got hot once since (about 5months) but had slight airlock again and needed more fluid.
So all in all very happy with it, used to get hot at slow speeds now stays at constant temp and also made way for winch
Its an old Warn M8000. got it for $500 so cant complain.
Didnt want winch hanging off, getting in way and reducing approach angle so made custom mount to slip over spring hanger and fairlead nicely flush with bars. Control box mounted up and accessed through grill
Few more pics (gotta love em )
Green 'lux is mates has 1uz lift 35"s etc
Big ruts!!!
Heres the old mans LN106 was standard until i got mine
Anyway thats enough for now will try keep updated...
Doin rear disk conversion atm
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sweet man, good to see phils old truck still hard at it!
what discs and calipars etc are you using for the rear disc conversion?!
what discs and calipars etc are you using for the rear disc conversion?!
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nzhunter wrote:sweet man, good to see phils old truck still hard at it!
what discs and calipars etc are you using for the rear disc conversion?!
Yea thanks, goes well
It came with new solid front rotors and galant calipers brackets in the pile of spares. So decided to go that route instaed of prado/mr2. Got calipers from '89 E33a galant and getting axles machined down today hope fully put it together next week
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So your motor stays cool enough on the open road? Have you done any long road trips since putting the radiator on the rear?
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nstacey wrote:So your motor stays cool enough on the open road? Have you done any long road trips since putting the radiator on the rear?
Done over half hour drives open road in it, relatively flat but doesnt change temp at all. Its around 150mm away from rear window tho.
Apparently heaps more airflow if i lifted it a little (had someone riding on the back once )
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good to see that its still going jase! hope you are using it and abusing it!
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philux wrote:good to see that its still going jase! hope you are using it and abusing it!
Cheers Phil, yup definately bein used and probably getting too much abuse... Broken a few bits here and there. But hey thats what its for and means i can make it better and stronger as i go.
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Heres a pic of my sump which i had slightly modified, after dropping off a ledge a little too quick which caused the diff to come up and peirce a hole in it...
The sump was all scratched up and dented so it had obviously been happening for quite a while.
Its only removed around 200ml max of the capacity of the sump so im assuming it hasnt made too much difference with keeping things oiled up top.
Also installed an oil pressure gauge to keep an eye on things.
The sump was all scratched up and dented so it had obviously been happening for quite a while.
Its only removed around 200ml max of the capacity of the sump so im assuming it hasnt made too much difference with keeping things oiled up top.
Also installed an oil pressure gauge to keep an eye on things.
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Got my axles done over the weekend
Here they were before
They had to be heated and pressed/cold chiseled to remove the retainer ring thing that holds in the bearing...
Had about 5mm taken off the outside edge of mounting face and about 5mm taken off inside hole on the rotors
And heres a pic of brackets and calipers il hopefully be using if it all works out
The rotors need maching down for calipers to fit over, as theyre too thick so will hopefully get that done this week
Here they were before
They had to be heated and pressed/cold chiseled to remove the retainer ring thing that holds in the bearing...
Had about 5mm taken off the outside edge of mounting face and about 5mm taken off inside hole on the rotors
And heres a pic of brackets and calipers il hopefully be using if it all works out
The rotors need maching down for calipers to fit over, as theyre too thick so will hopefully get that done this week
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Oh and the only reason i decided to go ahead with doin brakes is coz i had taken rear diff apart to fix this...
Its the main carrier pin thing that holds the locker in
got no idea how or why it broke...
It made a couple of bangs then a knock knock knock as i drove down the rd slowly. Took it apart and the knocking was the short part sliding and hitting the crown wheel as it rotated
Which in turn munched the end of the pinion and made a few big chips on a few teeth
So replaced pinion, crown wheel looked alright thankfully and hopefully doesnt do anything like that again for a while.
Does anyone happen to know where or who in the eastern b.o.p specialises in diffs? And or lockers??
Noone in whakatane i talked to knew anything so kinda did it myself... hopefully doesnt destroy itself once its running again
Its the main carrier pin thing that holds the locker in
got no idea how or why it broke...
It made a couple of bangs then a knock knock knock as i drove down the rd slowly. Took it apart and the knocking was the short part sliding and hitting the crown wheel as it rotated
Which in turn munched the end of the pinion and made a few big chips on a few teeth
So replaced pinion, crown wheel looked alright thankfully and hopefully doesnt do anything like that again for a while.
Does anyone happen to know where or who in the eastern b.o.p specialises in diffs? And or lockers??
Noone in whakatane i talked to knew anything so kinda did it myself... hopefully doesnt destroy itself once its running again
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Crown wheel and pinion should be a matched set only. Wont last very long if you only replace one
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jaslux wrote:Does anyone happen to know where or who in the eastern b.o.p specialises in diffs? And or lockers??
Ernie in EBTD club does hilux diff work. Or you can PM Skid - his flatmate does diff deals and navigates for Froggy (also in EBTD club)...
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gimmemud wrote:Crown wheel and pinion should be a matched set only. Wont last very long if you only replace one
Hmm yea i was wondering that... Have the crown wheel that matches the pinion so maybe i should change that too then.
Thanks for that
Or like Cleary says above and maybe get someone to look at it for me haha cheers
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wound brake piston in a full turn and rotors now fit nicely so doing the other one now and hopefully post some pics later. Also got new rear bearings today so evrythings ready to go back together. Now gotta start thinking about handbrake had a look at hosehustlers setup pics so may try something similar. Wanna get it going first, been too long (only a week or so)
Last edited by jaslux on Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Well since last update have replaced crown wheel with the matched one, finished disk conversion, all new rear bearings seals etc, just need to do handbrake now. Started making brackets for it, will be similar ro hosehustlers just a smaller scale, hopefully works. Also managed to kill my camera must have got too much diff oil on it
Will post some pics at some stage
Future plans
-Front gaurd chop (anyone done this?)
Want to cut/fold them back to the 1st line on gaurd about an inch.
As the tyres kinda hit quite bad and popped one side off...
Figured if i mess it up il get some nice new flared jafa style gaurds from that 4wd fibreglass place. Or those widened ones i think J-Dub was making? Those looked nice and were a good price.
-Also want to do coons in the back eventually
-Sliders
-Sort out storage on tray for recovery gear, spare tyre maybe
-Would love to supercharge the 2jz sorta highly unneccesary but would be awesome
Will post some pics at some stage
Future plans
-Front gaurd chop (anyone done this?)
Want to cut/fold them back to the 1st line on gaurd about an inch.
As the tyres kinda hit quite bad and popped one side off...
Figured if i mess it up il get some nice new flared jafa style gaurds from that 4wd fibreglass place. Or those widened ones i think J-Dub was making? Those looked nice and were a good price.
-Also want to do coons in the back eventually
-Sliders
-Sort out storage on tray for recovery gear, spare tyre maybe
-Would love to supercharge the 2jz sorta highly unneccesary but would be awesome
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Go through , the pages of Bulletproofs Build under the newbie section , and its in there
Your name is Bolo and it will stay that way until you have earnt the right to be called your real name........................ Bolo
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yay new camera, managed to pick this up for much less than retail haha good ol arm twisting...
heres some pics of disk brakes on rear, still gotta do handbrake hopefully get most done this weekend
And heres the bits im gonna use to do handbrake setup
Will u-bolt around axle thru bracket and have the pivoting arm thing through bracket attached to handbrake and caliper. If that makes any sense. Basically changing angle of pull of handbrake by 90'. Hopefully works. nice and simple
Heres pic of truck as current
Approach angle
New rub marks from rear wheel after sundays play up manawahe, must have been pretty crossed up coz used to be paint there and rear leafs are real stiff (cmon coons )
heres some pics of disk brakes on rear, still gotta do handbrake hopefully get most done this weekend
And heres the bits im gonna use to do handbrake setup
Will u-bolt around axle thru bracket and have the pivoting arm thing through bracket attached to handbrake and caliper. If that makes any sense. Basically changing angle of pull of handbrake by 90'. Hopefully works. nice and simple
Heres pic of truck as current
Approach angle
New rub marks from rear wheel after sundays play up manawahe, must have been pretty crossed up coz used to be paint there and rear leafs are real stiff (cmon coons )
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jaslux wrote:-Would love to supercharge the 2jz sorta highly unneccesary but would be awesome
I looked into turboing it when i had it, was guuna be 5k drive in drive out, had 300 odd nm or torque, that was gunna be doubled and it was gunna have bout 240kw at the rear wheels
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How much weight do you normally have in the truck? Remember a standard hilux is designed to have a load in the back and tow a trailer.
Before you look at coon springs pull the bottom 3 leaf's and lengthen the shakles to keep the ride height and see how much of a difference it makes.
I have put in a track bar to stop the axle wrap having done the above and between those two the offroad drivability and ride of the hilux was a lot better.
You will need the track bar with coon's also and they are massively longer and flatter they introduce a lot of axle tramp and you need to change the chassis mounts around.
Just my 2c
Before you look at coon springs pull the bottom 3 leaf's and lengthen the shakles to keep the ride height and see how much of a difference it makes.
I have put in a track bar to stop the axle wrap having done the above and between those two the offroad drivability and ride of the hilux was a lot better.
You will need the track bar with coon's also and they are massively longer and flatter they introduce a lot of axle tramp and you need to change the chassis mounts around.
Just my 2c
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Steve_t647 wrote:How much weight do you normally have in the truck? Remember a standard hilux is designed to have a load in the back and tow a trailer.
Before you look at coon springs pull the bottom 3 leaf's and lengthen the shakles to keep the ride height and see how much of a difference it makes.
I have put in a track bar to stop the axle wrap having done the above and between those two the offroad drivability and ride of the hilux was a lot better.
You will need the track bar with coon's also and they are massively longer and flatter they introduce a lot of axle tramp and you need to change the chassis mounts around.
Just my 2c
Yea thanks for that Steve, was intending to put in a track bar for the axle wrap if i was to do rears. And will definately look into doing what you say above. may be alot easier than doing whole coon conversion...
And it doesnt usually have much weight in the back at all and dont tow trailers. (But may be using it next month on 31s to tow mates drift car)
Just hoping to get a bit more movement out of the rear coz theyre real stiff, although any wheel lift doesnt matter too much with the locker. And any onroad improvement would be great
P.S almost sorted handbrake, hurt leg couple weeks ago so havent managed to do much. Will post pics when all done
Cheers
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philux wrote:jaslux wrote:-Would love to supercharge the 2jz sorta highly unneccesary but would be awesome
I looked into turboing it when i had it, was guuna be 5k drive in drive out, had 300 odd nm or torque, that was gunna be doubled and it was gunna have bout 240kw at the rear wheels
240! Funny coz its a handful enough as it is haha but would be cool... Just recently got a 2jzgte powered aristo so thatl give me my boost fix 4 a while
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Hi all, bit of an update although not much
Trimmed front gaurds, about 25-30mm more clearance. Still rubs at full flex but is better.
Cut lip back then folded up flat so doesnt cut tyre and could refit flare. Aint pretty but not too bad
Also started sliders,
Not too sure whether they will be removable yet... Otherwise will be welded to plate welded to chassis
Havent sorted handbrake yet got brackets all done just need short cables made up to finish it off.
Heres few wheeling pics from today to keep it less boring
(looks like im goin hard but not really)
didnt see that hole..
Trimmed front gaurds, about 25-30mm more clearance. Still rubs at full flex but is better.
Cut lip back then folded up flat so doesnt cut tyre and could refit flare. Aint pretty but not too bad
Also started sliders,
Not too sure whether they will be removable yet... Otherwise will be welded to plate welded to chassis
Havent sorted handbrake yet got brackets all done just need short cables made up to finish it off.
Heres few wheeling pics from today to keep it less boring
(looks like im goin hard but not really)
didnt see that hole..
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hi all,
Bit of an update if anyones interested
Finnally sorted handbrake (needed one for wof, handy motivator)
Original plan worked but didnt have enough leverage so made the pivoting arms longer,
(dont worry, short cables are temporary)
Still wasnt quite enough leverage to pull brake on hard enough so extended the centre handbrake arm underneath...
Now works mint, pulls up on a hill even with the 37s
Also finally got round to making radiator shroud, as it used to get hot on long open road climbs as the fans werent drawing enough air through the radiator, came out ok i reckon
And heres a few random pics to show it does get used
Oops...
Cheers
Bit of an update if anyones interested
Finnally sorted handbrake (needed one for wof, handy motivator)
Original plan worked but didnt have enough leverage so made the pivoting arms longer,
(dont worry, short cables are temporary)
Still wasnt quite enough leverage to pull brake on hard enough so extended the centre handbrake arm underneath...
Now works mint, pulls up on a hill even with the 37s
Also finally got round to making radiator shroud, as it used to get hot on long open road climbs as the fans werent drawing enough air through the radiator, came out ok i reckon
And heres a few random pics to show it does get used
Oops...
Cheers
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Been a while!
Got bored so thought id update with bugger all to show
Posted this somewhere else i think but made a perspex scoop for radiator as it would still slowly get hot during long drives
I sticks above roof so catches the air. Before it used to just recirculate the hot air from behind cab. Seems good hasnt been hot since
Also painted it finally, was looking a bit rough...
Before
After
Came up not too bad for a first effort
Apart from maintenance (springs, shackles etc) iv done stuff all to her
Much to do tho, much to do...
Cheers
Got bored so thought id update with bugger all to show
Posted this somewhere else i think but made a perspex scoop for radiator as it would still slowly get hot during long drives
I sticks above roof so catches the air. Before it used to just recirculate the hot air from behind cab. Seems good hasnt been hot since
Also painted it finally, was looking a bit rough...
Before
After
Came up not too bad for a first effort
Apart from maintenance (springs, shackles etc) iv done stuff all to her
Much to do tho, much to do...
Cheers
Re: 2jz Hilux. cont'd..?
I know this is a thread necro, but is this still going LOL, any updates etc
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