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Re: Hilux trailer queen

Postby hosehustler » Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:50 pm

Starting to get a few niggles sorted for the odd summer trip or three, fuel system has been less that reliable so a few filters replaced and a bosch 044 copy courtesy of these guys for a starting point.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-par ... 055266.htm

He was good to deal with as well.

Seems to work fine and truck running better than it has for a while, so pretty happy with it for the $110 price tag, list of things still left to sort tho as always :lol:
These guys have been good to deal with too
http://www.v8parts.co.nz/ :mrgreen:

Did a fair bit of this last time out

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Hopefully I remember to fill my tank up next trip (I had a busy night before Tom's shakedown :lol: )
Forgot to fill up before hitting Waipara, had to leave early :oops: winched a four wheeler outta the river on the way back, think he'd been trying to push it out for ages as he was sweating something chronic and pleased as hell to see me :lol:
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Re: Hilux trailer queen

Postby hosehustler » Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:48 pm

Made this for the camping gear to live in for nek mission, should be enough room for tent, pack, cooker, and bedding with a tarp over that lot to keep it dry....or is that cool at the mo 8) , it's removable but I'll probably keep it on most of the time and chuck ropes, bush shit etc in it.
I didn't steal it from the local F&C shop....I built it, courtesy of some leftovers of Tom's :mrgreen:


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Re: Hilux trailer queen

Postby hosehustler » Thu May 16, 2013 6:11 pm

A few winter trips coming up and want it reliable.....so maintenance time :P

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Front diff not too healthy as I suspected :o
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So time to build up a front diff to stand the rigors of a V8 and big tyres.
I've decided to go high pinion, Nitro 4.88 29 spline ring and pinion, with drive flange to suit, with soild spacer.
Talking to others and reading pirate porn, I think this set up will last the distance :mrgreen:
Any other ideas.. :idea:
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Re: Hilux trailer queen

Postby rob-mu » Thu May 16, 2013 6:24 pm

Arb and six shooters ;)

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Re: Hilux trailer queen

Postby tomsoffroad » Thu May 16, 2013 8:05 pm

9.5" diffs :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Re: Hilux trailer queen

Postby keithal » Fri May 17, 2013 12:42 am

tomsoffroad wrote:9.5" diffs :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Re: Hilux trailer queen

Postby passengerpete » Fri May 17, 2013 6:21 am

awning, deck chair, chilly bin. :D

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Re: Hilux trailer queen

Postby churchill » Fri May 17, 2013 8:36 am

Set that diff up properly. Look like the pinion has moved on the old one.

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Re: Hilux trailer queen

Postby hosehustler » Fri May 17, 2013 8:41 am

churchill wrote:Set that diff up properly. Look like the pinion has moved on the old one.


The pinion has moved due to damage not set up, the crush spacer took a pounding due to a rock crawling trip when pinion meeting rocks, common occurance on rock crawlers hence a solid spacer going in :wink:
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Re: Hilux trailer queen

Postby churchill » Fri May 17, 2013 8:48 am

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churchill wrote:Set that diff up properly. Look like the pinion has moved on the old one.


The pinion has moved due to damage not set up, the crush spacer took a pounding due to a rock crawling trip when pinion meeting rocks, common occurance on rock crawlers hence a solid spacer going in :wink:


Interesting, I assume the damage is done in reverse to effect the crush tube?

I wasn't getting at you for not setting the diff up properly, I've been setting a few diffs up lately and 30% of them have had the bearing caps swapped with ones from other diffs. When people do this it's difficult to get the setup right without careful measuring/surface grinding resulting in blown diffs.

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Re: Hilux trailer queen

Postby hosehustler » Fri May 17, 2013 12:12 pm

Damage is caused in either direction, if lots of weight pushes on the flange from below it puts that pressure onto the crush sleeve, effectively crushing it some more, resulting in the pinion being able to be drawn into the ring gear under load.....hope that made sense :lol:
As for me being worried about setup of the damaged diff, it was in the truck when I purchased, however I will set up the new diff :mrgreen:
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Postby churchill » Fri May 17, 2013 1:31 pm

Ah ok, flange gets driven up and pulls the pinion shaft through. Weakest link is the crush sleeve. Solid spacer should increase the force you can put on the flange nicely.

I'm gonna use solid spacers in my 8" diffs, more setup time but should be longer lasting for these kinds of applications.

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Re: Hilux trailer queen

Postby Jafa » Fri May 17, 2013 1:53 pm

Tim,
Have a read of these pages, I used Zuk's methods for my diffs and have had no issues at all, no broken teeth, still showing perfect pattern after five or six years of handling 40" tires etc. The secret to keeping toy 8" diffs together is setting the Carrier Bearing preload to 100ft/lbs, find the reasons on the pirate thread as to why... basically pre stresses the housing so the ring cant flex any further... certainly works for me, and for a lot of customers in the US

http://www.gearinstalls.com
http://www.gearinstalls.com/cbpl.htm
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/general-4x4-discussion/503240-gear-experts.html#post5844489
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Re: Hilux trailer queen

Postby hosehustler » Fri May 17, 2013 4:23 pm

Cheers for that Trev,
has anyone got a spare hi pinion housing complete with bearing caps :?:
the one i've got has no caps, not a biggie as was going to use the caps I already have from a couple of diffs but they are factory matched and would be better if I had a whole one.
I would consider a whole diff (high pinion) if anyone has one :mrgreen:

other option is bringing in one of these, think i'll get a price on freight first :lol:

http://eastcoastgearsupply.com/i-132976 ... using.html

I have to say east coast gear supply have been really good to deal with so far and happy to freight international 8)
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Re: Hilux trailer queen

Postby vitz » Sat May 18, 2013 10:28 am

Great thread Tim!
Awesome truck too!
What an absolute BEAST!
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Re: Hilux trailer queen

Postby hosehustler » Fri May 31, 2013 3:37 pm

vitz wrote:Great thread Tim!
Awesome truck too!
What an absolute BEAST!


Cheers, it's getting there :lol:

passengerpete wrote:awning, deck chair, chilly bin. :D


I can do that too Pete 8)
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I've got all the parts sorted for a high pinion front diff.
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Result will be as planned, nitro 4.88 R&P, 29 spline drive flange, solid spacer, putting the two pinion carrier in with lockright, should be a rock solid set up :mrgreen:
Build time 8) I may take a couple of pics of pinion set up during the build if anyone is interested.....plenty of diff builds on the WWW so probably more of the same really :o
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Re: Hilux trailer queen

Postby hosehustler » Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:36 am

Diff build problem........gotta have one or two setbacks, long story short, blued up, set backlash, good backlash one side half turn of diff no backlash.....carrier spun in a lathe......bent :x
Anyone got a 8 inch 2 pinion carrier laying around in chch, I would like to finish diff today if possible, Tx 0272074454 cheers Tim :mrgreen:
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Re: Hilux trailer queen

Postby Sleepn » Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:20 pm

Hey Tim,

Any chance you could measure the thickness of that crown wheel for me, should be either ~22mm at its fattest point or more like ~25+mm at its thickest point... Would be quite interested to compare the Nitro gear to a few I imported from Asia:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... =598209637

Don't think I've got a carrier suitable to help sorry, good luck.

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Re: Hilux trailer queen

Postby hosehustler » Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:43 pm

Sleepn wrote:Hey Tim,

Any chance you could measure the thickness of that crown wheel for me, should be either ~22mm at its fattest point or more like ~25+mm at its thickest point... Would be quite interested to compare the Nitro gear to a few I imported from Asia:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... =598209637

Don't think I've got a carrier suitable to help sorry, good luck.

Cheers


I will have a measure up on Monday and get back to you as I haven't finished the diff due to solid spacer not fitting (it's a trail gear one for a std pinion) and the Nitro pinion is thicker in the shaft above the main pinion bearing.

A couple of pics though

Started here.....

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got to here :mrgreen:

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that's about 4 hours work and 4 different shim combinations later :lol:
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Re: Hilux trailer queen

Postby suzolla » Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:15 pm

Hi Tim,

the diff due to solid spacer not fitting (it's a trail gear one for a std pinion) and the Nitro pinion is thicker in the shaft above the main pinion bearing.


thats a bugger, are you going to bore it out so that it fits, do the shims fit.

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Re: Hilux trailer queen

Postby churchill » Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:20 pm

Nice pattern. Looks like you've done a few of these before to get there in 4 goes from the first pic! Just did one last weekend and it took 8 tries on the first diff..

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Postby hosehustler » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:30 am

churchill wrote:Nice pattern. Looks like you've done a few of these before to get there in 4 goes from the first pic! Just did one last weekend and it took 8 tries on the first diff..


Cheers, i've done a few.....

I have a spare 6x9 garage at home and plenty of free time, i'm looking for something to do quietly from home during the week in my spare time and thinking, investing in a press and lathe could be an option to maybe do a bit of diff specialty work for the 4x4 scene here in Canterbury, i don't know if there's a big market but it wouldn't matter as overheads would be zero and I already have a salary :mrgreen:
Just a idea at this stage 8)
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Re: Hilux trailer queen

Postby rob-mu » Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:46 pm

That's a bloody good idea Tim.
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Postby hosehustler » Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:48 pm

The more I think about it the better the idea becomes 8)

Anyway I've still got a reasonable tick list to sort out before it's ready for the Reefton trip in July, but at least the diff item is almost sorted :lol:

On the upside, i'm real pleased with the way the coilovers in the front and the tweaks to the rear have worked out, they made the vehicle a lot better thats for sure, and of course helped it flex a bit better :mrgreen:

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Re: Hilux trailer queen

Postby hosehustler » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:51 pm

Diff completed today, got a solid spacer made at JT engineering (gotta get me a lathe :P ) stitched it all together, 1 shim@ 0.1 needed managed close to perfect preload on the pinion bearings.


suzolla wrote:Hi Tim,

the diff due to solid spacer not fitting (it's a trail gear one for a std pinion) and the Nitro pinion is thicker in the shaft above the main pinion bearing.


thats a bugger, are you going to bore it out so that it fits, do the shims fit.

Cheers
Tim

Solid spacer was way too short for the cruiser diff (12mm), shims I can (and did X1) use :mrgreen:



Diff will be going in tomorrow, about time :P
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Postby DMcCready » Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:12 pm

Boo! :( Whats the next project?...
There's gotta be some rocks round here SOMEWHERE!

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Postby hosehustler » Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:36 am

DMcCready wrote:Boo! :( Whats the next project?...


Grass karting with my boys at this stage, of course if it doesn't sell i'll still be 4 wheeling which I've been doing for a long time, and this is the best machine I've had for that here in the south.....a cab and heater are a must for the winter coast trips which IMO are the most fun :P
But like most Dads with kids I have other hobbies as well and grass karting won't happen while I own this, time and money only goes so far, but I do have a minimum dollar for the hilux, and if it doesn't get that then the winter coast trips are still there for me and the boys will have to be content without karting in there lives :wink:
P.S that toy of your's is the shiz :mrgreen:
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Postby rokhound » Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:21 pm

Fark Ya Tim for putting that vid up.

Now I need to find more time to sort my POS out so we can get back in there soon.
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