first surf build.

User avatar
skidmark
Hard Yaka
Posts: 613
Joined: Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:24 pm
Location: hamilton

first surf build.

Postby skidmark » Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:06 pm

hey i might be jumping the gun a little bit starting this but anywho...

the victim is a 90 4runner with a v6 in it.

Image

was brought for 400 with a suspected blown headgasket..due to oil in radiator..turned out to be cracked trans cooler.was bypassed into aftermarket cooler and the oldman drove it for a few thousand k's when he was made redundant...

v6 is going to be replaced by this:

Image

and then while looking for a suitable diff for a sas came across a these for too cheap to pass up.so safari diffs it is

Image

some parts i still need a RF gq caliper, and a rear disc.planning at this stage to use leone calipers on the rear for a handbrake(have a line on these in bosses old rally spear parts.) and also transfer selecter to go in auto surf transer

Image

thats about were im up to now

Alistair
modified surf, hardly drive it seem to keep modifying it....

User avatar
jonossiksilvia
Hard Yaka
Posts: 727
Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:53 pm
Location: christchurch

Re: first surf build.

Postby jonossiksilvia » Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:11 pm

good start. check out my build as it may help ya
Current 4wd: Surf Kzn185 ssrg factory Intercooled (yet to start build)
Past 4wd: toyota surf ln130, coil sas, 1uz v8 build

User avatar
skidmark
Hard Yaka
Posts: 613
Joined: Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:24 pm
Location: hamilton

Re: first surf build.

Postby skidmark » Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:25 pm

sweet yea mate I have had a read through yours.looks good
modified surf, hardly drive it seem to keep modifying it....

User avatar
skidmark
Hard Yaka
Posts: 613
Joined: Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:24 pm
Location: hamilton

Re: first surf build.

Postby skidmark » Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:57 pm

had the day off work today and started haveing a play with the rear brakes..it appears the leone calipers are more suited to a smaller diameter disk as it leaves a section ontop of the pad not swept.

hard to see but theres a scribed line on it (about 5mm from top)

Image

as i plan on keeping this road legal, would cert man be happy with this section ground away?or should i be looking for another caliper?has anyone added a handbrake onto a gq rear? I havent had any succseful searches yet but will look again.
modified surf, hardly drive it seem to keep modifying it....

Big
Hard Yaka
Posts: 2125
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:00 pm
Location: central Otago
Contact:

Re: first surf build.

Postby Big » Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:08 pm

From what Im looked into you need 100% contact with the pad.. so the 5mm is not really ideal and the cert man probably wont be happy either..

User avatar
skidmark
Hard Yaka
Posts: 613
Joined: Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:24 pm
Location: hamilton

Re: first surf build.

Postby skidmark » Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:12 pm

Thats what I was thinking aswell....stink.
modified surf, hardly drive it seem to keep modifying it....

User avatar
klompy
Hard Yaka
Posts: 421
Joined: Sat Feb 28, 2004 12:00 pm
Location: Rotorua

Re: first surf build.

Postby klompy » Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:35 pm

I've done a falcon caliper conversion on gq y60 rear diff if your in Rotorua come have a look.

User avatar
skidmark
Hard Yaka
Posts: 613
Joined: Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:24 pm
Location: hamilton

Re: first surf build.

Postby skidmark » Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:15 pm

the old motor has been sold. so removed that today..

did the ac the enviro friendly way
Image

engine out..
Image

awaiting next stage.. remove trans bumpers then possibly bodylift it.
Image
modified surf, hardly drive it seem to keep modifying it....

User avatar
Petemcc
Hard Yaka
Posts: 1392
Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:00 pm
Location: Queenstown

Re: first surf build.

Postby Petemcc » Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:40 pm

You can buy disk brake hand brakes that go on the transfercase / drive shaft and they just bolt on. They would be the easiest option. Suzilla (think thats spelt wrong) on here sells them,

User avatar
skidmark
Hard Yaka
Posts: 613
Joined: Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:24 pm
Location: hamilton

Re: first surf build.

Postby skidmark » Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:10 pm

Petemcc wrote:You can buy disk brake hand brakes that go on the transfercase / drive shaft and they just bolt on. They would be the easiest option. Suzilla (think thats spelt wrong) on here sells them,


cheers,from what ive seen on lvvta, carden shaft is only certifyable if factory fitted to gearbox unfortunatly..otherwise it would be a easy option.
modified surf, hardly drive it seem to keep modifying it....

User avatar
tomsoffroad
Flopsie
Posts: 2445
Joined: Wed Apr 28, 2004 12:00 pm
Location: North Canterbury

Re: first surf build.

Postby tomsoffroad » Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:37 pm

Interesting. The Narvara's certed with a custom cardon disk handbrake :?

Got the makings of a primo build :wink:

User avatar
skidmark
Hard Yaka
Posts: 613
Joined: Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:24 pm
Location: hamilton

Re: first surf build.

Postby skidmark » Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:43 pm

hmm..maybe I mis-understood said factsheet..will ask cert man next time I see him. Would be tight around the 4wd actuator but do able i think..

Tom wouldnt have pictures of the brake set up by chance?

Cheers
modified surf, hardly drive it seem to keep modifying it....

User avatar
T-Boon
Hard Yaka
Posts: 887
Joined: Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:59 am
Location: Auckland

Re: first surf build.

Postby T-Boon » Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:06 am

Looking like a good start. Going to go auto or manual ?
To Boon or not to Boon.

User avatar
skidmark
Hard Yaka
Posts: 613
Joined: Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:24 pm
Location: hamilton

Re: first surf build.

Postby skidmark » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:18 pm

this one will be auto..As much as I like manuals,the cost diffrence is too big for me to be concerned about it. useing factory auto with transfer adapted onto back.

also on handbrake note,oldman brought me a "70 series" front rotor(I dont think it is,measurements are wrong...) but i think it can be made too work with the leone calipers..but may have to wait until the weekend.
modified surf, hardly drive it seem to keep modifying it....

User avatar
tomsoffroad
Flopsie
Posts: 2445
Joined: Wed Apr 28, 2004 12:00 pm
Location: North Canterbury

Re: first surf build.

Postby tomsoffroad » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:34 pm

Sorry havent got any pics yet, but the Narvara has a Wilwood calipar, which has had the hydraulic guts ripped out and had a screw type set up machined for it. Then theres a lever - cable - floor mounted handbrake lever.
Not 100% finished yet as we a changing transfere cases, should do the trick even tho it has cost sh!t loads :roll:
The disk is simply 8mm M/S plate - which has been faced on the lathe - bolted between the driveshaft and transfere output.

The first set up was a Leone calipar and disk. Managed to get it to work but ditched it because it weighed a ton and was huge.

The handbrake only has to hold the vehicle, cos your not going to rip it on at 100km/hr :mrgreen:


Personally if we did it again we'd buy the kit off Suzolla. Have a yarn to your cert guy 1st. Much easier than trying to translate the book. :wink:

User avatar
T-Boon
Hard Yaka
Posts: 887
Joined: Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:59 am
Location: Auckland

Re: first surf build.

Postby T-Boon » Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:01 pm

skidmark wrote:this one will be auto..As much as I like manuals,the cost diffrence is too big for me to be concerned about it. useing factory auto with transfer adapted onto back.


You can also use the Surf auto, with a few tricks if thats easier, exactly what i`ve done.
To Boon or not to Boon.

User avatar
skidmark
Hard Yaka
Posts: 613
Joined: Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:24 pm
Location: hamilton

Re: first surf build.

Postby skidmark » Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:13 pm

Sweet as.don't worry about pics at this stage then. Will see what cert man says.think i have a couple of options now.

Yea mate already got the t-case adapted on..have had engine running,strapped to the workbench :twisted: without gear box.sort that in the truck.Haha
modified surf, hardly drive it seem to keep modifying it....

User avatar
Sadam_Husain
Angry bird
Posts: 5164
Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2006 12:00 pm
Location: WELLINGTON

Re: first surf build.

Postby Sadam_Husain » Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:16 pm

If you go with the leone calipers its tight but you can get full pad contact with a toyota rotor, I'm using 70 series cruiser front vented rotors on the back of both of my trucks, you can see in the first pic the pad just making full contact. The handbrakes can work really well, both of mine use the subaru handbrake cables and join onto the cruiser handbrake cable with an equaliser T bar, it gives the cables a good strong inline pull and clamps the calipers up tight. Theres heaps of different options for rear calipers and handbrakes, I ended up buying a pile of leone calipers from pick-a-part for 13 bucks each so I've done both trucks in them and have a pile of spare calipers sitting under the bench :D


Image

Image

Image

User avatar
skidmark
Hard Yaka
Posts: 613
Joined: Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:24 pm
Location: hamilton

Re: first surf build.

Postby skidmark » Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:48 pm

thanks..may be tight but thats proof it can be done.will continue this path at this stage.
modified surf, hardly drive it seem to keep modifying it....

User avatar
skidmark
Hard Yaka
Posts: 613
Joined: Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:24 pm
Location: hamilton

Re: first surf build.

Postby skidmark » Sun Sep 30, 2012 3:58 pm

seeing as Im too much of a tight arse to buy bodylift blocks, I decided to make my own. special adition to plasma cutter

Image

means a can turn steel plate into cheese
Image

Image

didnt get pics of next parts, but cut lengths of 50x3mm tube and faced off on lathe to length. welded plate on from the inside and turned down to tube diameter..external weld on the other end and almost sorted.just gota drill holes now and paint.
Image

now the bolts,anyone confirm i need 2x 140 m10 2x 150m10 2x165 m10
before i pull it apart.
thanks
modified surf, hardly drive it seem to keep modifying it....

User avatar
tomsoffroad
Flopsie
Posts: 2445
Joined: Wed Apr 28, 2004 12:00 pm
Location: North Canterbury

Re: first surf build.

Postby tomsoffroad » Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:09 pm

2x 130mm, 4x 150 and 4x 170. You have to use 8.8 bolts and nylocs if you want it certed :wink: you probably already know this tho :roll: :mrgreen:

User avatar
skidmark
Hard Yaka
Posts: 613
Joined: Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:24 pm
Location: hamilton

Re: first surf build.

Postby skidmark » Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:03 pm

Thanks..clearly I can't count either. Made 10 blocks yet was only going to get 6 bolts....anyway....
modified surf, hardly drive it seem to keep modifying it....

User avatar
skidmark
Hard Yaka
Posts: 613
Joined: Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:24 pm
Location: hamilton

Re: first surf build.

Postby skidmark » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:35 pm

anyway progress has been slow...but bodylift is in tempararly.
Image
total cost for body lift $20 for the bolts.had everything else...
going to sit engine box in and get sitting where it needs to sit.then will more than likely remove the entire body to make mounts and swap diffs over...

on another note saw this best at a certifiers the other day
Image

coils overs ls series v8..fresh import from the states..
modified surf, hardly drive it seem to keep modifying it....

User avatar
T-Boon
Hard Yaka
Posts: 887
Joined: Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:59 am
Location: Auckland

Re: first surf build.

Postby T-Boon » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:16 pm

Now thats cool!
To Boon or not to Boon.

User avatar
skidmark
Hard Yaka
Posts: 613
Joined: Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:24 pm
Location: hamilton

Re: first surf build.

Postby skidmark » Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:38 pm

progress has been slow but lower engine mounts have pretty much been made just need finalweld once i know it all fits

Image

using (i think) 70 series shackle bushes.

Then a set of these followed me home Image

Image

might be a bit big for the shiny
Image
modified surf, hardly drive it seem to keep modifying it....

User avatar
skidmark
Hard Yaka
Posts: 613
Joined: Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:24 pm
Location: hamilton

Re: first surf build.

Postby skidmark » Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:31 pm

engine has found a new home almost,just hanging until mounts are finalised
Image

and didnt have rotors or one caliper for rear axle,so this somehow found its way home...
Image
now I neeed to stop spending for a while...

anyone want buy a safari 4.1 lsd complete(minus rotors and one caliper) rear diff? has surface rust,but otherwise appears to be in good cond.
modified surf, hardly drive it seem to keep modifying it....

dan.c
Bush Crasher
Posts: 83
Joined: Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:09 pm
Location: Waikato

Re: first surf build.

Postby dan.c » Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:25 pm

come on alistair back to work next week and its still not done... on a side not i have your pipe guard, just havnt topped up to tell ya. giz a yell when u over this side of town or ill drop it off sometime and have a nozy at the above

User avatar
niblik
Sausage Shack
Posts: 3305
Joined: Wed May 03, 2006 12:00 pm
Location: erm.. out in the shed for a mo...

Re: first surf build.

Postby niblik » Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:33 pm

Ffs dude, ya gotta stop standing on ya head when takin pics man.

Or after uploading to ya online hosting site, edit them to spin em 180 degrees.

Other than that, woohoo! Keep at it.
ImageImage

User avatar
skidmark
Hard Yaka
Posts: 613
Joined: Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:24 pm
Location: hamilton

Re: first surf build.

Postby skidmark » Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:25 pm

small update have made engine mounts,so no longer hanging on chains.shouldnt have any issues with these breaking.will be intresting to see what vibration is like.will use simmilar for gear box too.

Image
Image

then a had a drive in a 2wd manual hilux with a 1uz and was dissapointed with the performance of it.. I then aquired these
two tdo4 standard wrx turbos. Image
will rotate the exhaust hosing and they should fit about here on each side..
Image
also unbolted everything off the ifs that I can. Image
modified surf, hardly drive it seem to keep modifying it....

User avatar
Dirtydog
Hard Yaka
Posts: 1788
Joined: Wed Jun 24, 2009 6:47 pm
Location: Gore, Southland

Re: first surf build.

Postby Dirtydog » Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:21 pm

all ready for the important chop then?

your up to the fun part, this is where i was happy someone else was doing it lol.

Return to “Projects / Mod's”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest