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ORE under another domain name! Theft

Postby mike » Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:34 pm

Hi All,

So since i've been away its come to my attention that there are some out there in the 4wd community who think they can just take ORE and slap another domain name on it and pass it off as another 4wd community website. Well I've asked the domain registrar people to stop this and they have ignored me. So I'm taking a naming and shaming route and posting the details freely available via the registrars website. Anybody know these people? I know who one of them is, seems to be a common trouble maker in the 4wd world :roll:

The contacts for the domain are:

registrant_contact_name: Les Stewart
registrant_contact_address1: 38 High St
registrant_contact_city: Christchurch
registrant_contact_country: NZ (NEW ZEALAND)
registrant_contact_phone: +64 3 3731348
registrant_contact_email: nz4wdforum@gmail.com
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admin_contact_name: Blackcat 2007 Limited
admin_contact_address1: 240 High St
admin_contact_city: Hawera
admin_contact_country: NZ (NEW ZEALAND)
admin_contact_phone: +64 6 2784448
admin_contact_email: nick@opunake.com
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technical_contact_name: Blackcat 2007 Limited
technical_contact_address1: 240 High St
technical_contact_city: Hawera
technical_contact_country: NZ (NEW ZEALAND)
technical_contact_phone: +64 6 2784448
technical_contact_email: nick@opunake.com

NOT A SAFE LINK!!!!
The domain is ***** but be warned that if you go to it now you will be confronted with a horrific image located on a french website.

How long that image is up for depends upon how long they keep trying to cloak ORE or how long the domain name registrar allows the continued cloaking (theft) of ORE with a complaint lodged.

The contact details for the persons who own this domain are easily available from the http://www.discountdomains.co.nz website using their domain search function.

ORE is not redirecting traffic for this domain, instead it detects if ANY domain is embedding ORE (ie passing it off as its own) and redirects it to another site.

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Postby curly12 » Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:38 pm

admin_contact_name: Blackcat 2007 Limited
admin_contact_address1: 240 High St
admin_contact_city: Hawera
admin_contact_country: NZ (NEW ZEALAND)
admin_contact_phone: +64 6 2784448
admin_contact_email: nick@opunake.com
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technical_contact_name: Blackcat 2007 Limited
technical_contact_address1: 240 High St
technical_contact_city: Hawera
technical_contact_country: NZ (NEW ZEALAND)
technical_contact_phone: +64 6 2784448
technical_contact_email: nick@opunake.com


How thick can that #### get??? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby muddyhilux » Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:47 pm

wanka,and i so shouldnt hav looked at that just before dinna :lol: ,y does curiosity always get the beta of me
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Postby mike » Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:49 pm

I'm more interested in who the les stewart is as he is a chch contact. nick's no surprise but who is les?
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Postby muddyhilux » Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:51 pm

i also thort that,i dont kno the hole story with nick but am convinced hes no good but have never seen that name in any threads
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Postby stinky » Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:51 pm

:lol: :lol: thats about right by the sound of things just being a big arsehole
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Postby stinky » Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:53 pm

sorry shoud warn you not to go to that link its not very nice
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Postby Sadam_Husain » Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:59 pm

admin_contact_name: Blackcat 2007 Limited
admin_contact_address1: 240 High St
admin_contact_city: Hawera
admin_contact_country: NZ (NEW ZEALAND)
admin_contact_phone: +64 6 2784448
admin_contact_email: nick@opunake.com
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technical_contact_name: Blackcat 2007 Limited
technical_contact_address1: 240 High St
technical_contact_city: Hawera
technical_contact_country: NZ (NEW ZEALAND)
technical_contact_phone: +64 6 2784448
technical_contact_email: nick@opunake.com



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LAWSON, Rachel Anna 15-FEB-2007
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Number of Shares 400
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Postby SV1K » Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:11 pm

Email sent to Mike with Les Stewart info.

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Postby curly12 » Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:12 pm

stinky wrote:sorry shoud warn you not to go to that link its not very nice

Nope it isn't, just a showing of his true colours
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Postby vvega » Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:22 pm

lol its called desperation boys
perhaps this is all a biot new for you guys .. but this has been happening in the computer forums for years

basically some homo gets all upset and banned
and does his best to #### your shit up
TBH these #### all you can do BUT
this is a act of desperation hes just a guttless faggot and this is all hes got

might i make a sugestion
a sack a sock full of rocks .. and a certain problem .... sometimes this shit has to be sort oldschool styles
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Postby malfunction » Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:50 pm

Im a bit gutted, clicked on "the giver" link. Dont know who gave them permission to use my photo.
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Postby wjw » Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:59 pm

If you email the complaint to me I can get the website shutdown tomorrow.
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Postby wisard2 » Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:11 pm

Have just sent Mike several e-mails in their entirety that I received from "The management" of that website when it first tried to kick off when barge-arse got banned form ORE. They were all in relation to myself and several other ORE members being administrators and helping promote the site and build it up.

I got banned from it after a couple of days when it became transparently obvious Lawson had some major connection with it, and I started doing some serious questioning of "Management" and "who" owned the site.
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Postby Heath » Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:12 pm

stinky wrote:sorry shoud warn you not to go to that link its not very nice


Yeah but that makes us even more likely to look - Frobidden fruit etc. :oops: :shock:

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Postby flyingbrick » Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:14 pm

muddyhilux wrote:i also thort that,i dont kno the hole story with nick but am convinced hes no good but have never seen that name in any threads

:lol:

I've been to the link etc. didnt read any of it but it didn't look like ORE?

I dont get how its got anything to do with ore?

PS..............dolphin sex? LOL!!!!!!!!! Maybe i need to get out more.
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Postby wjw » Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:22 pm

The site is in the process of being shutdown right now.

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Postby mike » Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:25 pm

Cheers bill for pulling strings , once the domain isnt pointing at ore then that graphic image will disappear from that domain.

I dont get how its got anything to do with ore?


ORE is detecting that 4wdforum.co.nz has embedded ORE on that 4wdforum.co.nz domain name and therefore ORE is redirecting off to that dodgy site any traffic that comes from it. I was overseas till this morning and didnt realise fully what had happened till I got back and Mark kindly pointed out what was going on.
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Postby vvega » Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:32 pm

wjw wrote:The site is in the process of being shutdown right now.

Cheers,

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though i still liked the rock in a sock approach
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Postby flyingbrick » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:03 pm

vvega wrote:
wjw wrote:The site is in the process of being shutdown right now.

Cheers,

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though i still liked the rock in a sock approach


You wanted to dangle it in his face while he sleeps? Isn't that a tea-bagging?

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Postby Lynx » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:40 pm

any chance you can open that site back up? i didnt get a look and dont want to miss out, joking joking :)

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Re: ORE under another domain name! Theft

Postby albundy » Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:26 am

I'm with VVega on this one. This prick will only comply when we beat the f*** out of him. We should all write his name down on a piece of paper, put it in the freezer and he will dissappear, Witchcraft I know, but I have seen it work.
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Re: ORE under another domain name! Theft

Postby albundy » Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:28 am

And...who is the Les Stewart guy :shock: Name and shame him as well Mike so we all know who these pricks are.
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Postby wjw » Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:06 am

mike wrote:Cheers bill for pulling strings , once the domain isnt pointing at ore then that graphic image will disappear from that domain.


It's not really pulling strings, pretty much every hosting provider in NZ has rules about objectional content and copyrighted material. All you need to do is lodge a complaint and the site will be taken down until its sorted out.
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Postby redz driver » Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:29 am

Its good to see that justice is being served
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Postby mike » Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:04 am

wjw wrote:
mike wrote:Cheers bill for pulling strings , once the domain isnt pointing at ore then that graphic image will disappear from that domain.


It's not really pulling strings, pretty much every hosting provider in NZ has rules about objectional content and copyrighted material. All you need to do is lodge a complaint and the site will be taken down until its sorted out.


Thanks bill,

must have been one or two string pullings as this is what i got back from discountdomains.

As this website is not under your account, and the request has not come from the registrant of this website 4wdforum.co.nz. We cannot change any other registrants settings without there permission, or a court order.


Their Terms and Conditions are:

1) The Subscriber is required to:

1. Comply with all applicable laws, regulations, standards and codes, including in particular (but not limited to) the Privacy Act 1993, the Fair Trading Act 1986, the Copyright Act 1994, the Defamation Act 1992 and the Crimes Act 1961.

2. Use the Services for lawful purposes only. Transmission or storage of any information, data or material in violation of any New Zealand law is prohibited. This includes, but is not limited to, copyrighted material, material legally judged to be threatening or obscene, or material protected by trade secret or other statute. The Subscriber agrees to indemnify and hold harmless Discountdomains.co.nz from any claims resulting from the use of the service which damages the Subscriber or any other parties.

* NOTE: Pornography and sex-related merchandising are prohibited on any Discountdomains.co.nz server Discountdomains.co.nz will be the sole arbiter as to what constitutes a violation of this provision.
* NOTE: Spamming, or the sending of unsolicited email, from a Discountdomains.co.nz server or using an email address that is maintained on a Discountdomains.co.nz machine is STRICTLY prohibited. Discountdomains.co.nz will be the sole arbiter as to what constitutes a violation of this provision.
3. Ensure that all information provided to us is current and correct.
4. Ensure that all people who use the Services provided to the Subscriber or via you're the Subscriber's account also complies with these Terms and Conditions.
5. Maintain the confidentiality of the Subscriber's user name, login, password, and any other account information and/or identifier provided to the Subscriber in relation to the Services. The Subscriber accepts complete responsibility for all use of the account and of all identifier(s), and Discountdomains.co.nz is entitled to rely entirely upon use of any password or other identifier as evidence of the Subscriber's identity and authority.


So they won't even inforce their own terms and conditions without a court order. Pretty stupid if you ask me.
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Postby williamhamilton » Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:22 pm

mike wrote:
wjw wrote:
mike wrote:Cheers bill for pulling strings , once the domain isnt pointing at ore then that graphic image will disappear from that domain.


It's not really pulling strings, pretty much every hosting provider in NZ has rules about objectional content and copyrighted material. All you need to do is lodge a complaint and the site will be taken down until its sorted out.


Thanks bill,

must have been one or two string pullings as this is what i got back from discountdomains.

As this website is not under your account, and the request has not come from the registrant of this website 4wdforum.co.nz. We cannot change any other registrants settings without there permission, or a court order.


Their Terms and Conditions are:

1) The Subscriber is required to:

1. Comply with all applicable laws, regulations, standards and codes, including in particular (but not limited to) the Privacy Act 1993, the Fair Trading Act 1986, the Copyright Act 1994, the Defamation Act 1992 and the Crimes Act 1961.

2. Use the Services for lawful purposes only. Transmission or storage of any information, data or material in violation of any New Zealand law is prohibited. This includes, but is not limited to, copyrighted material, material legally judged to be threatening or obscene, or material protected by trade secret or other statute. The Subscriber agrees to indemnify and hold harmless Discountdomains.co.nz from any claims resulting from the use of the service which damages the Subscriber or any other parties.

* NOTE: Pornography and sex-related merchandising are prohibited on any Discountdomains.co.nz server Discountdomains.co.nz will be the sole arbiter as to what constitutes a violation of this provision.
* NOTE: Spamming, or the sending of unsolicited email, from a Discountdomains.co.nz server or using an email address that is maintained on a Discountdomains.co.nz machine is STRICTLY prohibited. Discountdomains.co.nz will be the sole arbiter as to what constitutes a violation of this provision.
3. Ensure that all information provided to us is current and correct.
4. Ensure that all people who use the Services provided to the Subscriber or via you're the Subscriber's account also complies with these Terms and Conditions.
5. Maintain the confidentiality of the Subscriber's user name, login, password, and any other account information and/or identifier provided to the Subscriber in relation to the Services. The Subscriber accepts complete responsibility for all use of the account and of all identifier(s), and Discountdomains.co.nz is entitled to rely entirely upon use of any password or other identifier as evidence of the Subscriber's identity and authority.


So they won't even inforce their own terms and conditions without a court order. Pretty stupid if you ask me.


This is where you need our friends at http://www.internetnz.net.nz/ and http://www.dnc.org.nz/ are handy :)

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Re: ORE under another domain name! Theft

Postby pruggerdore » Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:50 pm

Proplem is as I see it is this dork wit nothing better to do is going to keep doing this sort of shit because he can with no consequence at all. Here we all are talking about him again giveing him attention which is propably what he wants. Take it from the virtual world to the physical world of pain. He needs keyboard fingers to do this crap. there propably quite important to him......... Crunch crunch

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Postby flyingbrick » Wed Nov 25, 2009 5:31 pm

albundy wrote:I'm with VVega on this one. This prick will only comply when we beat the f*** out of him. We should all write his name down on a piece of paper, put it in the freezer and he will dissappear, Witchcraft I know, but I have seen it work.
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Postby taz01 » Wed Nov 25, 2009 5:58 pm

flyingbrick wrote:
albundy wrote:I'm with VVega on this one. This prick will only comply when we beat the f*** out of him. We should all write his name down on a piece of paper, put it in the freezer and he will dissappear, Witchcraft I know, but I have seen it work.
Al


What did witches do before they had freezers :lol: :lol: :lol:

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yeah thanks Al...............ya sent the bastard our way :lol: :lol:
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