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Postby stinky » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:42 pm

Looking good sure theres not enough room there for a lwb camper it is diesel :lol:
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Postby De-Ranged » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:53 am

:lol: Thought about it.... problem is I've handed notice on lease so only have two months and alot of stuff to do and sell

Another update
Got the passanger side slider on, at the front outrigger... the rear will come after I pull the deck off and work out what I'm doing with the back end
Recognise where it came from... its a bit heavy 6mm wall :shock: but I have another bit of 75x75 in the recycle pile so it'll match the other side
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Modified the bulkhead to fit to it.... cut the bolt holding the bulkhead frame to the outrigger and the inner support and frame fell to the ground :lol: so had to patch a bit more rust
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Was looking at the inner front guards.... I like this alloy stuff it really is light :lol: got me to thinking, I've still got some pannels from a rangy down the back if I was to use them to replace the heavy steel pannels I might help keep weight down :wink:

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Postby stinky » Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:25 am

2 months you could do 2 just a bit of rust and a motor swap easy for you if you only did that. Im still thinking its very tempting :lol: question is what would you charge me to do it ?
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Postby Jerry » Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:15 am

Is this a recovery truck for the Lada :wink:

Maybe you could combine the 2 and make a LadaRover :lol:
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Postby ladeda » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:19 pm

Hehe a Rada :lol:

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Postby De-Ranged » Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:40 pm

Kinda sad looking up the shed at the lada... would be nice to see it go local ,hopefully.... worst case some of the bits might end up

Got to have this toy running for a trip at the end of the month
Carved up the an old rangy panel
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a couple min's on the hammer an it was flat... it took longer to sand off the bog :lol: a bit of a trim and a couple of folds and....
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Must have saved at least 50gms :lol:

That done stuck the outer skin on
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Not the final shape once I sort the rangy axle into it and some better suspension I'll work out how much further to trim... but this wont happen till after the first run

With that done started into the drivers side
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Postby De-Ranged » Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:56 am

Chris has been busy...
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Stripped the back off to so I can have a measure up for the links and work out where things are going....

I've been stuggling with this...
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Decided to trim it, boat side style so I can make a skid/tank guard between chassis and slider
Been a real stuggle as originally it was soldered together... I did the best to clean the solder off but there was enough left that its made a few of the welds porous... been a real game of chase the leak, normally it only takes one water test to find the leaks and a second to confirm I got em :roll: yea well I'm on my fifth test, some welds have been ground out 3 times :lol: I will win tho!

Once this is done I'll coat it with some POR15 tank sealer that I've had left over from another job and make up a new front chassis mount that doesn't stick down as much and we'll be all good

Waiting on a mate to get back from his work in Mexico, so I can get a blown diff head off him and make a jig to shave rover axles 8) then I'll sort the rear and see what I can do to strengthen things

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Postby De-Ranged » Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:05 pm

Got the tank done.... only had to fill it up 3 more times :roll:

Also got the mounts sorted made a new mount for the front and tied the rear mount to the slidders
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And this is what all the fuss was for
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Oh and while I was doing that I moved the drain plug down to the lower edge :wink:

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Postby tomsoffroad » Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:29 am

Back must be feeling better bro?? :mrgreen: Taking shape nicely

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Postby De-Ranged » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:59 am

Nope, I'm in sometimes alot of pain, pain killers and woody's take the edge off other times I just have to walk it off... and the pace I'm working at :roll: :lol: it is sad I have lists of stuff to do and I'm lucky if I make it half way

Could have been some cool news to add last night but my miss's got distracted and got out bid :roll: :lol: yes she is blonde
Was hoping to get a PTO unit for the rover transfercase.... got a winch... anyone else got a PTO unit they want to part with

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Postby Big » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:13 pm

De-Ranged wrote:anyone else got a PTO unit they want to part with

I'll ask Bert if he does for you :D

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Postby De-Ranged » Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:46 pm

Big wrote:
De-Ranged wrote:anyone else got a PTO unit they want to part with

I'll ask Bert if he does for you :D


Thank you :D

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Postby De-Ranged » Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:29 pm

Had a good day today, even managed to jog a bit when I walked the dog...

Got the suspension calculations for the rear links sorted, going to try something different for this since its a hack :lol:.... setting up my Anti Squat so on drop (suspension extension) the AS rate will drop.... the opposite of normal link setups... the idea is to stop the links trying to walk under the truck on steep climbs.... if it doesn't work I've designed it so the only thing I need to do is change the lower axle mount and shorten the lower links :wink: I'm also building a heap of adjustments into it so I can play with a wide range of AS 29%-110%
As well as that I got the drivers guard bar in place and started to fit the old guard
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Postby willie » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:19 am

Looking good cant wait to see some it once its done ill be keeping eyes open 8)
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Postby De-Ranged » Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:34 pm

Going to try something different with this one... I'm going to try and limit myself to finishing one thing at a time on this :lol: might mean there will be some funny trip pics

Anyway got a chance to go pick up a few bits from a mate.... got to make a jig so I can do a bit of work to the rear diff :wink:
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Also got the ends of my links machined up, I've got a bin of old bushes that were too good to throw out :lol: yes I've got Scottish blood in me
found enough rubber leaf spring eye bushes form Falcon leaf springs to do the top links and chassis end of the lower links, also had a couple of Saffari radius arm bushes so they can go on the other end of the lower links

Got some good news today from the back specialist they are going to try cortazone, this should have me back working in a month :D

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Postby slidenyo » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:16 pm

I like this project a lot chap...
i'm heading in a similar direction but less extreme,
i'm removing my tank and putting an hz one in the wellside with a tool box over the top,
the seat stands i'm removing altogether so I can run pajero suspension seat bases (bung back also).
sticking with leaves but making 2 part scissor shackles,
retaining my ld28 but going turbo .

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Postby De-Ranged » Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:30 pm

Thank you, I'm enjoying it too

Sounds like a cool project apart from the scissor shackles they unload when you get on side slopes, they do give you alot of articulation but I don't like that loss of control

Thanks for the advice I may try it.... going to start walking to the shed to try and get fitness back, specilist also told me to up my Tramadol to help

Had a good day in the shop :D

Heres your diff Ian all done ready to use... tomorrows job
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Be interesting I've never shaved a Rover before haven't heard of it being done before
Also finished trimming up and mounting the drivers guard, had a mate over hanging round so put him to work pulling the rear brakes out... kept going till he got to the master cylinder and found it was near buggered :lol: side of the plastic is so perished and cracked its soft and flexable, I mentioned to him I was going to replace it (was on the lathe at the time...) next thing I know he has the pedal box out and asking where the replacement was :lol: so decided to sort that one now :lol: .... drilled the box to take a hilux booster and gave it a coat of rust kill
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Now I just have to shorten the push rod, still undecided if I do this the better way and machine up an adjustable end or just cut n weld....
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Thought about doing it Turoa's way but its too much work for me :lol:

Got some mates coming over tomorrow night to trade a favor, little bit of luck I end up with a running motor...

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Postby ice4x4 » Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:20 am

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Heres your diff Ian all done ready to use... tomorrows job
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Errrr nice one Reece but did I forget to say I need it back?? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Interested to see what you are going to do with that fandangled contraption 8) 8)
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Postby rokhound » Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:12 am

If I had to hazard a guess, I think you will find that axle tubes are about to be offset. Or the axles are being swapped out for Toy ones, which would mean it is easier to graft on toy axle and bearing housing's (in reece speak anyway :lol: )
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Postby De-Ranged » Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:06 am

Nope... after doing a fair bit of research online found the landrover nuts feel they can make em strong enough to handle competition so all I'm using the jig for is shaving diffs and I like the theme of not spending money on this :D
I will be pegging the diff housings tho from what I've seen sposed to improve strength anywhere between 25-100%

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Postby DieselBoy » Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:27 pm

De-Ranged wrote:Nope... after doing a fair bit of research online found the landrover nuts feel they can make em strong enough to handle competition so all I'm using the jig for is shaving diffs and I like the theme of not spending money on this :D
I will be pegging the diff housings tho from what I've seen sposed to improve strength anywhere between 25-100%


Yup, that lines up with all my research too :D :D

Besides, there's any number of places selling strengthened chromolly axles and CV's for the front and rear ends if you need to go there too.
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Postby De-Ranged » Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:48 am

Yep plenty of places in the UK have em and there is a couple in the states and with the dollar at the moment :D but it will have to prove its self :lol: this is a cheap throw together with emphasis on cheap

Kinda a bit wired think I had a bit to much cola tonight... so figured I'd post up todays efforts

Started with the brake booster, thin'd down the push rod into the booster using a thin cutting disk in the grinder had to take it down about 2mm to fit the thread die, so the cutting disk let me take a 1mm cut (width of the disk so easy to see depth) then spun the threading die down to the bottom of the original thread jam'd a couple of nuts on the top so I could stop it spinning and cut the thread all the way to the bottom of the push rod, then carved a screw on end to fit the landy pedal this took most of the morning :wink: small jobs can take ages
But here is the result
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Then started the shave (this is why I built the jig save me getting carborundum in a good diff)
Not the best gain I've made from shaving a diff depending on tilt of the diff I've gained 1/2 to 3/4" extra clearance
Carved out the base of the diff before I thought to take a pic
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So chucked the bit back in for a comparison it sat a bit taller I had to make multiple cuts to cut it free but you get the idea
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Heres a shot showing how tight I run em, haven't had anyone tell me they've had a problem with contact yet so it must be enough
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Here she is all shined up at the end
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While I was working on this Wingnut (Weemsy) fixed a frost plug and got her running
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This isn't bad lighting in the pic its alot of smoke :lol: The old LD28 an't too happy she wasn't running very well, but she runs, will give her some new fuel and a new filter and see if she runs happier maybe clean the injectors worst case have a look at the timing (anybody able to tell me the timing marks?)
Now all I need to do is finish the rear suspension and throw the body on and we are good for costa :D

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Postby Weemsy » Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:12 pm

Don't think it's timing, starts easily with a few seconds of glow plugs and no diesel knock. I can adjust a couple of degrees on the pump, but i should have probably done tappets while the rocker cover was off, and gone from there.
We don't know how much air she's sucking through them nasty, old hoses either......
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Postby De-Ranged » Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:01 am

Hmmm so much for an early night... woke up and the pain got me now I've got half an hr while the pain killers work there magic

So here's a bit I forgot from last nights post
I got the seats dropped off :D spanky skyline seats very cumfy
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Figured I'd move em out of the way before I started grinding, Dam! for sports car seats these things are fn heavy :lol: hmmm might have to do some thing about that.... but thats a job for another day

Decided to do the best (most complicated) link mount today
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All made from recycled steel, if you look close you can see some of the over cuts from separating bits... running out of 5mm so tomorrows mount bits may have to be bits stuck together :lol:

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Postby slidenyo » Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:17 am

injector pumps belt driven so pays to check them if its been a while,
mine smokes as well probably just a little valve guide wear as it clears once its had a good run.
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Postby Weemsy » Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:31 pm

Yeah, had to get the pump off on Friday to do the frost plug behind it. Had no idea for timing marks as no Internet, so marked it up and put it back where it was. I suspect a stuck injector or two. Seeing as the motor looks like it hasn't ran for several years, I thought it started nice and easy once we bled her up. Just a bit smoky now. Once the exhaust is on I will go check it over and see if I can narrow it down to a couple of Cylinders and go from there. Fuel lines are old as the hills so its probably sucking mouthfuls of air too.......
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Postby De-Ranged » Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:48 pm

Finished the rear axle (well sort of), rather pleased with the effort
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Also got the top links done.... CAD'd the articulation of the links I had to shortened the bush width down so it will twist enough to reach full flex... :lol: don't think they'll last long tho
Made everything wide enough that I can future proof things.... still want to have a go at making my own "Jonny Joints" but thats still away off, cheap or free will have to do for now

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Postby De-Ranged » Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:20 pm

Had a slow day....
Cleaned up the rear end of the chassis and got the axle housing sitting in its new place
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Had an offer that has hmmmm.... anyone want a fancy Range Rover axle comes with an extra set of calipers for fiddle brakes ARB etc will only have done one trip... swop for what ever I could use on this toy
Been offered a set of Safari axles with diff locks as part of a swop

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Re: Its not a project.... honest lol

Postby tomsoffroad » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:25 am

Hey Reece I'm lost........... but shouldn't those lower control arm mounts be on the other side of the axle tubes?

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Postby De-Ranged » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:21 am

tomsoffroad wrote:Hey Reece I'm lost........... but shouldn't those lower control arm mounts be on the other side of the axle tubes?


:wink: Not this time, playing with the calculator (I've modified mine to show graphs showing changes over travel) l was trying to get longer links when I noticed this setup, it reversed the Anti-Squat....
You understand a normal setup as the suspension drops transfers weight from the springs to the links (Anti-Squat % increases), this causes improved traction on the rear end, it also causes the suspension to lift as it lifts or you get onto steeper going it increases... this is all good till you loose traction (back end drops) or get that much travel the axle starts trying to walk under (short wheel base rear up)
This setup as the suspension extends the Anti-Squat % drops if my theory is right then the suspension should find a balance point and not bounce or rear up even if it brakes traction
I know this goes against the "Rock Crawling" mentality
Figured I'd build it and see, I've designed a huge range of AS starting values from 29% up to 110%, might even find 100% works if it ramps down instead of up :wink:

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