Problems With Manual Conversion LN130 91 2l-te Surf.

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Problems With Manual Conversion LN130 91 2l-te Surf.

Postby Kiwifireman » Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:31 pm

Hey I am having problems with my lux,

1. Reversing lights wont come on when put in reverse.

2. Wont start, like it did when it was in drive.

3. Have extra plugs on loom for gearbox.

4. Have extra plug on right hand side of gearbox that no plug on loom will fit.

Not sure what model of manual gearbox I have but it was out of a truck that was one year older than mine.

Can anyone out there PLEASE help me get this truck moving ?

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Re: Problems With Manual Conversion LN130 91 2l-te Surf.

Postby gimmemud » Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:48 am

Plug on the side of gearbox will be for reverse lights. You'll have to find which two wires in the auto loom that you need to join to make them work. For starting you'll need to sort the neutral safety switch it'll be a relay somewhere.
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Re: Problems With Manual Conversion LN130 91 2l-te Surf.

Postby COMILUX » Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:31 am

When i converted mine to manual (ln65 with ln130 gearbox) it wouldnt start because of the nautral safety switch, switch is on the auto shifter and should have a wire running to it the basicly earths out when in nautral and sends signal to the ignition.
If its the same as mine i just cut the wire and put it to permanent earth.

Theres always extra plugs on the auto that wont be needed so i just cable tied them out of the way.

Find the reverse light switch on the auto and work out which plug is for it, find the one on the manual and if plugs arnt the same your have to wire other plug on or something - the extra plug on the gearbox could be it, there was a plug on my gearbox that had nothing going to it but took it to auto sparky and he said it wasnt needed but cant remember what it was for - it was a while ago now.

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Re: Problems With Manual Conversion LN130 91 2l-te Surf.

Postby J_Dub » Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:22 pm

out of the left over plugs from the loom, 3 i think, go to the biggest 1, think it has 4 wires and 5 wires, join the 2 middle wires in the row of 4, that should start it.
And the rest of the loom is shit from the auto...

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Re: Problems With Manual Conversion LN130 91 2l-te Surf.

Postby Kiwifireman » Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:20 pm

Thanks will try to do the things you guys sugested............

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Re: Problems With Manual Conversion LN130 91 2l-te Surf.

Postby Zamad » Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:38 pm

I'm thinking of doing the same thing as my auto trans is on the way out. My question is whether there is any other major hurdles, that I should be aware of? Is the clutch master cylinder a problem to get right?

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Re: Problems With Manual Conversion LN130 91 2l-te Surf.

Postby tweake » Thu Sep 07, 2017 7:19 pm

Zamad wrote:I'm thinking of doing the same thing as my auto trans is on the way out. My question is whether there is any other major hurdles, that I should be aware of? Is the clutch master cylinder a problem to get right?

does it need to be road legal?
if so it will need a cert.

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Re: Problems With Manual Conversion LN130 91 2l-te Surf.

Postby catalystracing » Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:32 pm

Never done one but have heard you need to put auto into neutral before taking apart, this allows it to rev out without all the auto shite trying to interfere.

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Re: Problems With Manual Conversion LN130 91 2l-te Surf.

Postby wjw » Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:58 am

tweake wrote:
Zamad wrote:I'm thinking of doing the same thing as my auto trans is on the way out. My question is whether there is any other major hurdles, that I should be aware of? Is the clutch master cylinder a problem to get right?

does it need to be road legal?
if so it will need a cert.


Is it not possible to do bolt in all OEM Gear?
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Re: Problems With Manual Conversion LN130 91 2l-te Surf.

Postby tweake » Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:58 pm

wjw wrote:
tweake wrote:
Zamad wrote:I'm thinking of doing the same thing as my auto trans is on the way out. My question is whether there is any other major hurdles, that I should be aware of? Is the clutch master cylinder a problem to get right?

does it need to be road legal?
if so it will need a cert.


Is it not possible to do bolt in all OEM Gear?

its changing the pedals that requires the cert.
the rest, provided its oem and bolts up unmodified, doesn't need a cert.

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Re: Problems With Manual Conversion LN130 91 2l-te Surf.

Postby sirLachlan » Sat Sep 09, 2017 10:23 pm

Can you elaborate on this a bit more ? Or paste the specific wording that rules a pedal swap as needing cert . I'm not arguing or disagreeing . Just seems dumb if you are bolting oem stuff in ?

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Re: Problems With Manual Conversion LN130 91 2l-te Surf.

Postby kbushnz » Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:04 am

If its all bolt on OEM stuff no cert is required.
Ref
http://www.lvvta.org.nz/documents/suple ... eshold.pdf
Page 13.

If you start cutting holes in floor pan or making new support frames / mounts then cert is required.
Or you start pissing around with the brake system. Pedal included.

If in doubt talk to a cert man... or woman.
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Re: Problems With Manual Conversion LN130 91 2l-te Surf.

Postby tweake » Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:07 am

sirLachlan wrote:Can you elaborate on this a bit more ? Or paste the specific wording that rules a pedal swap as needing cert . I'm not arguing or disagreeing . Just seems dumb if you are bolting oem stuff in ?

from lvvt site

Gearbox substitution
 the OE gearbox cross-member has not been heated, cut, or welded; and
 the OE gearbox cross-member mounting to the OE body or chassis members is
unchanged; and
 no replacement gearbox cross-member is used; and
 the OE drive-shaft(s) remain and is un-modified; and
 no substantial modifications have occurred to the floor or gearbox tunnel area, other
than provision for gear-shift mechanism; and
the braking system is not modified or changed, including the brake pedal.

the catch is swapping out the brake pedal to fit the manual brake pedal to allow room for the clutch pedal.

if in doubt run it past the local cert guy.

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Re: Problems With Manual Conversion LN130 91 2l-te Surf.

Postby wjw » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:32 pm

tweake wrote:
sirLachlan wrote:Can you elaborate on this a bit more ? Or paste the specific wording that rules a pedal swap as needing cert . I'm not arguing or disagreeing . Just seems dumb if you are bolting oem stuff in ?

from lvvt site

Gearbox substitution
 the OE gearbox cross-member has not been heated, cut, or welded; and
 the OE gearbox cross-member mounting to the OE body or chassis members is
unchanged; and
 no replacement gearbox cross-member is used; and
 the OE drive-shaft(s) remain and is un-modified; and
 no substantial modifications have occurred to the floor or gearbox tunnel area, other
than provision for gear-shift mechanism; and
the braking system is not modified or changed, including the brake pedal.

the catch is swapping out the brake pedal to fit the manual brake pedal to allow room for the clutch pedal.

if in doubt run it past the local cert guy.


Ah... that would be why I still have the wider auto brake pedal in the 80 :-)
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Re: Problems With Manual Conversion LN130 91 2l-te Surf.

Postby J_Dub » Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:17 pm

Pretty sure I came into issues with 4x4 system being a prick to get working again, from the auto setup to the manual setup, just wiring was way different, and the surfs with their add system requires the wiring to be right

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Re: Problems With Manual Conversion LN130 91 2l-te Surf.

Postby sirLachlan » Sun Sep 10, 2017 8:53 pm

Surely that is intended to mean don't cut down or modify the original one .
If you bolt in an oem manual one Noone is going to care

In the same way every one swaps an oem auto drive shaft and cross member for the manual eqiilivents

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