Towing Capacity

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Towing Capacity

Postby tuckertrucker » Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:31 pm

Hi guys and gals

Can any one tell me my braked and unbraked towing capacity? I understand that this will depend on the tow ball and bar setup but I want to know the standard capacity for the vehicle. 1992 Granroad Y60 Nissan Safari LWB.

I know this vehicle has been used towing upwards of 3 tonnes in the past. We actually stopped at a fonterra weigh bridge when the truck and boat were fully loaded and the combined vehicle mass came to 5.8 tonnes. And we comfortably handled that for a good 100km trip many times without trouble. Just wondering what the book says.

cheers, Dylan.

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Re: Towing Capacity

Postby derk » Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:43 pm

if you look up the nzta site the book says (or used to say) that the vehicles braked or unbraked maximum tow rating dosent apply, what does apply is you have to be able to stop in X distance at X speed. If your towing on a car licence you cant exceed the maximum weight for that class (still 5000kg I think) so your probably breeching your licence class at 5800kg if you don't have a HT endorsement

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Re: Towing Capacity

Postby tuckertrucker » Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:46 pm

good point about the license thing :mrgreen:

i just found on NZTA it says: must be able to stop from 30km/h within 7 meters.

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Re: Towing Capacity

Postby tweake » Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:48 pm

your allowed up to 6 ton combined gross weight on a car license.

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Re: Towing Capacity

Postby mudtroll » Fri Nov 13, 2015 6:42 am

Used to be a limit of 4.5 tonne on a car licence, I did the right thing, paid $1000 to get my class 2 licence & they changed the rules about a month later :x

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Re: Towing Capacity

Postby tuckertrucker » Fri Nov 13, 2015 8:38 am

arg good timing to get the license then aye haha. The 4500kg GCM limit only applies to learner and restricted class 1 licenses.

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Re: Towing Capacity

Postby MihiT » Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:16 am

Safs came out with either 2.5t tow hitches, or 3.5t.
I'm still trying to work out why myself, as I dont think even the 3.5t had leaf sprung rears, and they seem to be mostly the automatics. Weird.
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Re: Towing Capacity

Postby Mudde1 » Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:52 pm

tweake wrote:your allowed up to 6 ton combined gross weight on a car license.

Only if it is a Motorhome or a trade vehicle. MC class vehicles are not included.
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Re: Towing Capacity

Postby wjw » Mon Nov 16, 2015 7:03 am

Class 1 – Car

A holder of a Class 1 learner or restricted licence can drive:

a vehicle that has a gross laden weight (GLW) or gross combined weight (GCW) of not more than 4500kg (this includes tractors or combination vehicles, but does not include motorcycles)
a moped or all-terrain vehicle
any motorhome or tradeperson’s vehicle with a GLW of not more than 6000kg and an on-road weight not exceeding 4500kg.
A holder of a restricted Class 1 licence can also drive:

an agricultural tractor that has a GLW of not more than 18,000kg or a combination vehicle (consisting of an agricultural tractor and agricultural trailer) with a GCW of not more than 25,000kg if driven at a speed not exceeding 40km/h.
A holder of a Class 1 full licence can drive:

a vehicle that has a GLW or GCW of not more than 6000kg (this includes tractors or combination vehicles, but does not include motorcycles)
a moped or all-terrain vehicle
a tractor with a GLW of more than 6000kg but not more than 18000kg if driven at a speed not exceeding 30km/h
a tractor/trailer combination with a GCW of more than 6000kg but not more than 25,000kg if being used in non-agricultural land management operations and driven at a speed not exceeding 30km/h
an agricultural tractor with a GLW of not more than 18000kg or an agricultural tractor/agricultural trailer combination with a GCW of not more than 25000kg if driven at a speed not exceeding 40km/h.
A Class 1 full licence with an F endorsement will permit you to operate a forklift with a GLW of not more than 18000kg.

A Class 1 full licence with an R endorsement will permit you to operate a special-type vehicle that runs on rollers with a GLW of not more than 18000kg.

A Class 1 full licence with a T endorsement will permit you to operate a special-type vehicle that runs on tracks with a GLW of not more than 18000kg.

A Class 1 full licence with a W endorsement will permit you to operate special-type wheeled vehicles:

with a GLW not more than 6000kg
with a GLW more than 6000kg but not more than 18,000kg if driven at speed not exceeding:
40km/h, if the vehicle is an agricultural motor vehicle
30km/h for any other special-type wheeled vehicle.
A Class 1 full licence with an F, R, T or W endorsement will also permit you to operate:

an agricultural tractor with a GLW of not more than 18000kg or
a combination agricultural tractor/agricultural trailer with a GCW of not more than 25,000kg.

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Re: Towing Capacity

Postby tweake » Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:43 pm

Mudde1 wrote:
tweake wrote:your allowed up to 6 ton combined gross weight on a car license.

Only if it is a Motorhome or a trade vehicle. MC class vehicles are not included.

i think that used to be the case when it was 4500kg limit. looks like they have done away with that when they upped it to 6000kg.

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Re: Towing Capacity

Postby Ralfie » Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:13 am

tuckertrucker wrote:Hi guys and gals

Can any one tell me my braked and unbraked towing capacity? I understand that this will depend on the tow ball and bar setup but I want to know the standard capacity for the vehicle. 1992 Granroad Y60 Nissan Safari LWB.

I know this vehicle has been used towing upwards of 3 tonnes in the past. We actually stopped at a fonterra weigh bridge when the truck and boat were fully loaded and the combined vehicle mass came to 5.8 tonnes. And we comfortably handled that for a good 100km trip many times without trouble. Just wondering what the book says.

cheers, Dylan.


Getting back to original topic .............
Officially the GQ Nissan Patrol/Safari can only tow 2500kgs braked.

Nissan towing weights
These towing weights are sourced from the New Vehicle Distributor’s spec sheets. They’re based on vehicles sold new in NZ - spec levels and recommendations may vary with used imports.
Patrol - all 1986 - 1999 750kgs unbraked 2500kgs braked.

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Re: Towing Capacity

Postby tweake » Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:21 pm

Ralfie wrote:
Getting back to original topic .............
Officially the GQ Nissan Patrol/Safari can only tow 2500kgs braked.

Nissan towing weights
These towing weights are sourced from the New Vehicle Distributor’s spec sheets. They’re based on vehicles sold new in NZ - spec levels and recommendations may vary with used imports.
Patrol - all 1986 - 1999 750kgs unbraked 2500kgs braked.

but they are only recommendations not legal requirements.
in aussie its a legal requirement but not NZ.

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