Balancing Mud Tyres

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Balancing Mud Tyres

Postby roscoe » Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:39 pm

Just put a new set of 32 inch mud tyres on my navara, had them balanced at a local tyre shop and a wheel alignment done and all seemed good until i finally got out of a 50k zone and the steering wheel started shaking from side to side from about 60kph onwards, about an inch each way. Vehicle had never done this before, could it be that they haven't balanced them right? (I have heard that balancing car tyres and 4x4 tyres are a different kettle of fish). got new steel rims at the same time and tyres are 32 inch. Im going to take them back and get them to look at the shop but if that fails can anyone else recommend a 4x4 tyre specialist in auckland that might be able to get it right?

any help appreciated

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Re: Balancing Mud Tyres

Postby Crash bandicoot » Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:32 pm

Depends on the tyre one firestone i had needed over 200 grams of weight and then it went on the back and the two that required the least amount of balancing went non the front.

I recently changed brands and bought some KL71's and fitted them to the same rims. The biggest amount was 40 grams needed.
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Re: Balancing Mud Tyres

Postby mike.308 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:46 pm

Yea get the tyre shop to rebalance them for you, if they take more than 100grams on one side get them to break beads and spin tyre on rim, seems to work for me:)

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Re: Balancing Mud Tyres

Postby dingo » Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:33 pm

hi what sort of wagon haveyou got they on

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Re: Balancing Mud Tyres

Postby DEATH_INC » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:19 pm

Take it back to them, they should fix it for you.
If not and you're anywhere near Manukau, pm me and I'll tell ya where to come to.

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Re: Balancing Mud Tyres

Postby firestonecruiser » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:20 pm

could also de in ya rim. a lot of the cheaper steel wheels only rely on the stud holes for location. If they havnt taken there time and located them correctly then u will have vibration. i have experienced this first hand and have 15 yrs experience in the tyre industry.

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Re: Balancing Mud Tyres

Postby eins » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:48 pm

Get them to try again at no cost, otherwise if you are anywhere near Onehunga try Herb Morgan Tyres as have found them very good and know there stuff.

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Postby 4WDbits » Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:18 am

firestonecruiser wrote:could also de in ya rim. a lot of the cheaper steel wheels only rely on the stud holes for location. If they havnt taken there time and located them correctly then u will have vibration. i have experienced this first hand and have 15 yrs experience in the tyre industry.

cheers jono


None of the steel wheels are hub centric, so rely fully on the wheel nuts for location. If the nuts are torqued up correctly the wheels will be located correctly. Definitely worth checking.
I know this seems obvious, but make sure you have the correct wheel nuts. Not sure what is stock on the Navara, but steel rims all use taper nuts.

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Re: Balancing Mud Tyres

Postby DEATH_INC » Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:38 am

eins wrote:otherwise if you are anywhere near Onehunga try Herb Morgan Tyres as have found them very good and know there stuff.

Yeh, Fred and the boys are good.
I can beat your 15 years Jono :wink: , I been doing it for 21 now, plus a few weeks here and there before that.
But what is really important is to find someone that is willing to spend the time to get it right, not just 'bring her in, it'll be done in 10 minutes' sort of places...

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Re: Balancing Mud Tyres

Postby DEATH_INC » Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:46 am

4WDbits wrote:I know this seems obvious, but make sure you have the correct wheel nuts. Not sure what is stock on the Navara, but steel rims all use taper nuts.

You do realize that most of those stock factory mag nuts, while not ideal, have a small taper at the bottom, and do work fine in steel rims? A lot of 4X4's, and cars for that matter, use a steel spare with normal tapers in them, so the nuts have to work in them.
Not that I recommend this mind you, the proper one's will always be better....

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Re: Balancing Mud Tyres

Postby 4WDbits » Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:05 am

DEATH_INC wrote:
4WDbits wrote:I know this seems obvious, but make sure you have the correct wheel nuts. Not sure what is stock on the Navara, but steel rims all use taper nuts.

You do realize that most of those stock factory mag nuts, while not ideal, have a small taper at the bottom, and do work fine in steel rims? A lot of 4X4's, and cars for that matter, use a steel spare with normal tapers in them, so the nuts have to work in them.
Not that I recommend this mind you, the proper one's will always be better....


True, but Surfs (I think) use shank nuts with no taper, like some 100 series and Lexus.

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Re: Balancing Mud Tyres

Postby DEATH_INC » Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:38 pm

4WDbits wrote:True, but Surfs (I think) use shank nuts with no taper, like some 100 series and Lexus.

That's the one's I'm talking about, generally the oe one's have a taper at the bottom of the shank. Like this Image Some may not tho...I guess I haven't seen every one :lol: .
But, on this subject, I'm about 99% sure that the Navara's all had taper nuts on their alloy wheels, I think only the Safari/Patrol used the shank one's on some of theirs.

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Re: Balancing Mud Tyres

Postby firestonecruiser » Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:26 pm

DEATH_INC wrote:
eins wrote:otherwise if you are anywhere near Onehunga try Herb Morgan Tyres as have found them very good and know there stuff.

Yeh, Fred and the boys are good.
I can beat your 15 years Jono :wink: , I been doing it for 21 now, plus a few weeks here and there before that.
But what is really important is to find someone that is willing to spend the time to get it right, not just 'bring her in, it'll be done in 10 minutes' sort of places...

this is true but he has obviously spent his hard earned money on them. as far as im concerned i dont care how long it takes as long as its done once and done correctly. an extra 10 or so mins to get it right or a pissed of customer that goes on forums and tells others what crap service they got is only going to hurt ya business.

cheers jono

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