Rocky Rover 1955 Series 1
Rocky Rover 1955 Series 1
She's one of the family. I was 3, my brother was 6mnths. So roughly 30 years in the family.
1955 Series 1 86", 2L F head side valve engine.
This is her in action the last time she ventured further than the front gate:
She has done just about every track north of Waiouru at some stage in her career, wires loop, grapevine, neevesville, waitawheta you name it, shes probably been through it quite a few times up to the early 90's.
I will have to scan some photo's, they were awesome club trips back then!!!
I bet Lilpigzuk and LR90NZ have some also
1955 Series 1 86", 2L F head side valve engine.
This is her in action the last time she ventured further than the front gate:
She has done just about every track north of Waiouru at some stage in her career, wires loop, grapevine, neevesville, waitawheta you name it, shes probably been through it quite a few times up to the early 90's.
I will have to scan some photo's, they were awesome club trips back then!!!
I bet Lilpigzuk and LR90NZ have some also
Last edited by DieselBoy on Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:16 pm, edited 1 time in total.
lax2wlg wrote:Is that like saying 'she's hot, for a crackwhore??
Re: Rocky Rover 1956 Series 1
Probably a few from the funs days we had on the Horsham Downs farm as well.
Is it to receive one of your special make overs very soon?
Is it to receive one of your special make overs very soon?
Re: Rocky Rover 1956 Series 1
She has spent the last couple of years languishing in the back corner of one of the sheds with Suzuki LJ50 parts piled up on her, growing mold and providing convenient accommodation to a few generations of Rat families.
She was parked up mainly due to steering issues, a snapped stud on one of the king pin caps, worn king pin bushes causing uncontrollable wheel shimmy, completely disfunctional brakes, the list goes on..........
The plates were kept live though
So its time for some TLC.
The list was:
Fix brakes
Fix steering
Fix rear cross member and spring hangers
New soft top
Get WOF
My list now includes:
Fuel tank support
Re-condition engine or try out spare engine in unknown cond
Fix dragging clutch
Fix dodgy patch work and stress cracks on fire wall
Recondtion/replace steering box
Clean up body work esp front guards as best as can be done with bent alloy panels
The idea is to tidy it up so it can be used regularly and taken out wheeling.
I don't want to do a mint resto, as shes just another series 1 that's been well used and abused over the years. There's not a straight panel on it and its beyond the budget and my skills to do anyways
Tidy, legal and usable is enough
I raided dads collection of "special" tools for working on it. Metric doesn't fit, Imperial does't fit. Ever heard of Whitworth???
Try having a full box of tools lying in the corner utterly useless cause none of them fit. Frustrating. It looks like a 14mm, but its not. Grrrrrrr
So the strip down has begun. Took all of an hour to strip doors, roof etc off:
The monster power plant. Love the oil bath aircleaner!
Fire wall looked good:
Doors are really good:
And then it stopped for a few weeks while i got my head arond the wiring and how I was going to strip the loom out in such a way as to be able to put it all back together. No nice plastic plugs back in the 50's here folks, its all individual wires and separate terminals.
She was parked up mainly due to steering issues, a snapped stud on one of the king pin caps, worn king pin bushes causing uncontrollable wheel shimmy, completely disfunctional brakes, the list goes on..........
The plates were kept live though
So its time for some TLC.
The list was:
Fix brakes
Fix steering
Fix rear cross member and spring hangers
New soft top
Get WOF
My list now includes:
Fuel tank support
Re-condition engine or try out spare engine in unknown cond
Fix dragging clutch
Fix dodgy patch work and stress cracks on fire wall
Recondtion/replace steering box
Clean up body work esp front guards as best as can be done with bent alloy panels
The idea is to tidy it up so it can be used regularly and taken out wheeling.
I don't want to do a mint resto, as shes just another series 1 that's been well used and abused over the years. There's not a straight panel on it and its beyond the budget and my skills to do anyways
Tidy, legal and usable is enough
I raided dads collection of "special" tools for working on it. Metric doesn't fit, Imperial does't fit. Ever heard of Whitworth???
Try having a full box of tools lying in the corner utterly useless cause none of them fit. Frustrating. It looks like a 14mm, but its not. Grrrrrrr
So the strip down has begun. Took all of an hour to strip doors, roof etc off:
The monster power plant. Love the oil bath aircleaner!
Fire wall looked good:
Doors are really good:
And then it stopped for a few weeks while i got my head arond the wiring and how I was going to strip the loom out in such a way as to be able to put it all back together. No nice plastic plugs back in the 50's here folks, its all individual wires and separate terminals.
lax2wlg wrote:Is that like saying 'she's hot, for a crackwhore??
Re: Rocky Rover 1956 Series 1
A pile of parts out here:
A grubby semi stripped chassis in here:
I thought long and hard about the wiring issues, and in the end, decided that the simplest method was the best. Do it in one hit to aid memorising it, and just methodically go through labeling each terminal and associated wire. Slow, but hopefully accurate enough to be able to trouble shoot any issues as it goes back together.
So now its covered in blue tags every where marking wires and terminals:
Now that's out of the way, the fire wall can come off, and the front panel with radiator can come off.
The fire wall looks good from a distance:
but is not......
neither is the fuel tank support:
Nothing a grinder, some plate and a welder can't fix
Grubby gearbox and T.Case. Bring on the degreeser and water blaster!!
Somewhere from the deep dark depths under the house a replacement rear cross member emerged. God knows where it came from and how long it had be hiding under there for
Its obviously not a series 1 cross member, but it does line up with the chassis rails, so there is potential.......
My plan with what to do about that cross member keeps changing every time I look at it
Onwards
A grubby semi stripped chassis in here:
I thought long and hard about the wiring issues, and in the end, decided that the simplest method was the best. Do it in one hit to aid memorising it, and just methodically go through labeling each terminal and associated wire. Slow, but hopefully accurate enough to be able to trouble shoot any issues as it goes back together.
So now its covered in blue tags every where marking wires and terminals:
Now that's out of the way, the fire wall can come off, and the front panel with radiator can come off.
The fire wall looks good from a distance:
but is not......
neither is the fuel tank support:
Nothing a grinder, some plate and a welder can't fix
Grubby gearbox and T.Case. Bring on the degreeser and water blaster!!
Somewhere from the deep dark depths under the house a replacement rear cross member emerged. God knows where it came from and how long it had be hiding under there for
Its obviously not a series 1 cross member, but it does line up with the chassis rails, so there is potential.......
My plan with what to do about that cross member keeps changing every time I look at it
Onwards
Last edited by DieselBoy on Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.
lax2wlg wrote:Is that like saying 'she's hot, for a crackwhore??
Re: Rocky Rover 1956 Series 1
DieselBoy wrote:I raided dads collection of "special" tools for working on it. Metric doesn't fit, Imperial does't fit. Ever heard of Whitworth???
yeah have a few of those that are kicking around. Confused the crap out of me when I first read the sizing on them.
Going to sell them at some stage, good to know what market to target
That paint colour hides the dents well. Will be watching with interest.
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Re: Rocky Rover 1956 Series 1
If you get stuck I have a far collection of witworth spanners and sockets from working on RR darts
Re: Rocky Rover 1956 Series 1
Bloody O for awesome Will raid the old mans album and see what pics he still has of it
Dads 1957 landy still wofed I think
Dads 1957 landy still wofed I think
Re: Rocky Rover 1956 Series 1
bout time you posted some pic of this up .
good to see you finally got brave enough to tackle the wiring .
Yell out if ya want a hand some time .
good to see you finally got brave enough to tackle the wiring .
Yell out if ya want a hand some time .
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Re: Rocky Rover 1955 Series 1
Almost anything British of that era is full of Whitworth, or British Standard Whitworth (BSW). All the British aircraft I have worked on use it too.
The sizes I think are more to do with thread sizes vice nut sizes, from memory. There is also British Association (BA) sizing out there too. Although these have all been on Rolls Royce Viper engine.
That is a cool looking Landy though.
The sizes I think are more to do with thread sizes vice nut sizes, from memory. There is also British Association (BA) sizing out there too. Although these have all been on Rolls Royce Viper engine.
That is a cool looking Landy though.
Re: Rocky Rover 1955 Series 1
DIRTY OLD HILUX
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Re: Rocky Rover 1955 Series 1
There's a little bit of a gap in this thread!!!!!
I got busy with this:
http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/Forums/ ... 21&t=36132
And then I was about to get back on to it, and then this happened:
http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/Forums/ ... &start=150
So had to rebuild a new one!!!!!!!
Now that's done, and it's ready for our trip to OZ in July, i have a window of opportunity to smash out some work on Rocky Rover.
Just to add some pressure in the mix, our property has been sold to a developer, so we have to be out by the end of June.
To fill in the gap in the thread, the fire wall was worse than we thought, so that came off too, then the engine and gearbox came out, and basically its sat as a semi rolling chassis for quite a while.
The old engine and gear box, fire wall and other parts are lurking in various corners of the work shop
We sent the front guards to a retired panel beater who tinkers with stuff from home for fun, and he fixed those up for us. They are perfectly straight. In fact he's set the bar pretty bloody high for the rest of the body work
Dad dragged the spare motor out of the crate and stripped it down. He's given it a valve grind, and a bit of a clean up in the combustion chambers, new water pump, new head gasket, pinched the copper water gallery from the old motor and swapped that in, checked the bottom end bearings and i think its ready to slap in and see what it does.
Me in the mean time, have done a whole lot of procrastinating
Over the years Dad had collected bits and pieces to do the chassis repairs.Trouble was the replacement bits were pretty tired them selves. Especially the replacement rear cross member. Luckily Rex at www.landroverspares.co.nz had a Series 2 Rear Cross member sitting on the shelf ready to go, so grabbed that and came up with a plan to make it work.
This is the result, one farked rusty patched up cross member mercilessly hacked off and discarded
Then it was time to clean up the chassis and make it suitable to receive the new cross member:
In order to get it to this stage, this the rusty rotten crap that had to be removed. A lot of it was old patches that had been welded on, hiding a lot of good chassis underneath them. Spring perches also got cut off and chucked in the scrap:
It was a mission as I was trying to preserve as much of the original chassis as possible so I had something to weld the new cross member to. This is the pile of grinding and cuttings discs at the end
The first test fit:
The new spring perches:
A fair bit of welding later and its on. That puppy ain't going nowhere, which is especially important as the spring perches are hanging purely off the welded on cross member
Next up was this disaster. Meet one messed up gearbox crossmember. Apparently it happened coming down a hill in Maramarua forest. Judging by the damage, i would say it's the kinda hit you would remember
I made myself some space to work on it because i suck at welding upside down:
Dad had salvaged this piece of cross member from one of his mates that was doing an engine conversion way back in the day, so at least I had some thing to work with. Problem was it had been cut between the chassis rails so was way to short to be used as a direct replacement.
So i hacked the damaged piece of the chassis:
Cut a replacement piece out of the otger cross member:
A quick test fit:
Should do the trick, so blazed it in:
Following that, i hit the chassis with the wire brush and sprayed on a coat of Brunox Epoxy Rust Converter. Operation bling has begun
I got busy with this:
http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/Forums/ ... 21&t=36132
And then I was about to get back on to it, and then this happened:
http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/Forums/ ... &start=150
So had to rebuild a new one!!!!!!!
Now that's done, and it's ready for our trip to OZ in July, i have a window of opportunity to smash out some work on Rocky Rover.
Just to add some pressure in the mix, our property has been sold to a developer, so we have to be out by the end of June.
To fill in the gap in the thread, the fire wall was worse than we thought, so that came off too, then the engine and gearbox came out, and basically its sat as a semi rolling chassis for quite a while.
The old engine and gear box, fire wall and other parts are lurking in various corners of the work shop
We sent the front guards to a retired panel beater who tinkers with stuff from home for fun, and he fixed those up for us. They are perfectly straight. In fact he's set the bar pretty bloody high for the rest of the body work
Dad dragged the spare motor out of the crate and stripped it down. He's given it a valve grind, and a bit of a clean up in the combustion chambers, new water pump, new head gasket, pinched the copper water gallery from the old motor and swapped that in, checked the bottom end bearings and i think its ready to slap in and see what it does.
Me in the mean time, have done a whole lot of procrastinating
Over the years Dad had collected bits and pieces to do the chassis repairs.Trouble was the replacement bits were pretty tired them selves. Especially the replacement rear cross member. Luckily Rex at www.landroverspares.co.nz had a Series 2 Rear Cross member sitting on the shelf ready to go, so grabbed that and came up with a plan to make it work.
This is the result, one farked rusty patched up cross member mercilessly hacked off and discarded
Then it was time to clean up the chassis and make it suitable to receive the new cross member:
In order to get it to this stage, this the rusty rotten crap that had to be removed. A lot of it was old patches that had been welded on, hiding a lot of good chassis underneath them. Spring perches also got cut off and chucked in the scrap:
It was a mission as I was trying to preserve as much of the original chassis as possible so I had something to weld the new cross member to. This is the pile of grinding and cuttings discs at the end
The first test fit:
The new spring perches:
A fair bit of welding later and its on. That puppy ain't going nowhere, which is especially important as the spring perches are hanging purely off the welded on cross member
Next up was this disaster. Meet one messed up gearbox crossmember. Apparently it happened coming down a hill in Maramarua forest. Judging by the damage, i would say it's the kinda hit you would remember
I made myself some space to work on it because i suck at welding upside down:
Dad had salvaged this piece of cross member from one of his mates that was doing an engine conversion way back in the day, so at least I had some thing to work with. Problem was it had been cut between the chassis rails so was way to short to be used as a direct replacement.
So i hacked the damaged piece of the chassis:
Cut a replacement piece out of the otger cross member:
A quick test fit:
Should do the trick, so blazed it in:
Following that, i hit the chassis with the wire brush and sprayed on a coat of Brunox Epoxy Rust Converter. Operation bling has begun
lax2wlg wrote:Is that like saying 'she's hot, for a crackwhore??
Re: Rocky Rover 1955 Series 1
I have been meaning to dig out some of the photos of Rocky Rover from the 80's. Must get round to it.
I did find some more recent ones that are only about 20 years old.
This one is not very exciting to look at, but this is after 3 days hand winching around Waitapheta in the early 90's just after the full loop had been re-opened. The plan was two days. Yay for always packing more food than you need
Playing at Taumatatotara with LR90NZ and another back in the days:
Skids at Horsham Downs, Rocky Rover, Kevin, Brent and Ashley
Same Crew at Taumatatotara
And just as teaser of some of the 80's photos that I have lurking in albums stashed away:
That's me on the far right holding the pink balloon with Rocky Rover in the back ground. Toyoda is the one sitting on the ground with the hat on. Lilpigzuk is in that photo too
Must scan some more
I did find some more recent ones that are only about 20 years old.
This one is not very exciting to look at, but this is after 3 days hand winching around Waitapheta in the early 90's just after the full loop had been re-opened. The plan was two days. Yay for always packing more food than you need
Playing at Taumatatotara with LR90NZ and another back in the days:
Skids at Horsham Downs, Rocky Rover, Kevin, Brent and Ashley
Same Crew at Taumatatotara
And just as teaser of some of the 80's photos that I have lurking in albums stashed away:
That's me on the far right holding the pink balloon with Rocky Rover in the back ground. Toyoda is the one sitting on the ground with the hat on. Lilpigzuk is in that photo too
Must scan some more
lax2wlg wrote:Is that like saying 'she's hot, for a crackwhore??
Re: Rocky Rover 1955 Series 1
DieselBoy
Lilpigzuk is in that photo too
Found him: the paedophile looking fella in the red suit surrounding himself with little kids...
Dont follow me. i'll get stuck and need a tow..
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Re: Rocky Rover 1955 Series 1
Cool project and photos.
Im sure those of us that grew up in the 80's had a much cooler childhood than kids now.
Im sure those of us that grew up in the 80's had a much cooler childhood than kids now.
Re: Rocky Rover 1955 Series 1
The Chassis rebuild is done. Finished. Completed. Happy
As I mentioned in a previous post, following the repairs, i wire brushed the entire chassis and sprayed on a coat of Brunox Epoxy Rust Convertor.
On Monday night, once the rust convertor had hardened, it got two coats of gloss black Acrathane, which is an industrial/marine grade two pack paint.
Tonight, once the Acrathane had set, I sprayed underbody sealer on all of the rust prone places, on the underside of all of entire chassis and on all those places dirt and crud collects and causes rot.
The end result: (the under body sealer is freshly applied, it changes colour to black as it sets )
All the rust prone places on the new cross member sealed up
The repaired fuel tank mount and repaired out rigger:
You wouldn't even know that the gearbox cross member had been touched!!!
So there you have it, ready to be relocated, and probably receive the engine and gearbox sometime soon
As I mentioned in a previous post, following the repairs, i wire brushed the entire chassis and sprayed on a coat of Brunox Epoxy Rust Convertor.
On Monday night, once the rust convertor had hardened, it got two coats of gloss black Acrathane, which is an industrial/marine grade two pack paint.
Tonight, once the Acrathane had set, I sprayed underbody sealer on all of the rust prone places, on the underside of all of entire chassis and on all those places dirt and crud collects and causes rot.
The end result: (the under body sealer is freshly applied, it changes colour to black as it sets )
All the rust prone places on the new cross member sealed up
The repaired fuel tank mount and repaired out rigger:
You wouldn't even know that the gearbox cross member had been touched!!!
So there you have it, ready to be relocated, and probably receive the engine and gearbox sometime soon
lax2wlg wrote:Is that like saying 'she's hot, for a crackwhore??
Re: Rocky Rover 1955 Series 1
top work chap!
problems are only a problem if you not willing to learn how to find solutions
Re: Rocky Rover 1955 Series 1
bout time ya did some more on this!
Hope Mr T is being enlisted to help
be great to see it out again next summer ......
Hope Mr T is being enlisted to help
be great to see it out again next summer ......
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Re: Rocky Rover 1955 Series 1
Looking good
Re: Rocky Rover 1955 Series 1
I'm missing having a cool toy to cruise round in, so obvious solution is to get this finished
I went to the storage shed and collected some parts
Mission number 1, finish repairing the fire wall. All patched, rust treated and ready for primer.
A good dose of 2K Epoxy primer to seal it up for a few more years:
On hard wearing areas where mud and dirt is going to accumulate and be hard to clean, and in the foot wells that get hammered I have sprayed on some underbody sealer. The whole thing will get sprayed over with the top coat colour.
I went to the storage shed and collected some parts
Mission number 1, finish repairing the fire wall. All patched, rust treated and ready for primer.
A good dose of 2K Epoxy primer to seal it up for a few more years:
On hard wearing areas where mud and dirt is going to accumulate and be hard to clean, and in the foot wells that get hammered I have sprayed on some underbody sealer. The whole thing will get sprayed over with the top coat colour.
lax2wlg wrote:Is that like saying 'she's hot, for a crackwhore??
Re: Rocky Rover 1955 Series 1
I need some parts too!!!!
Anyone got a pair of front springs kicking around??
Late series 1 with the wide springs, or any series 2 springs would do the job.
And as a real long shot, anyone come across a Series 1 wreck that has a good front panel?? The panel goes between the front guards, and the grill, head lights and radiator mount into it.
I have two, but both are damaged
Anyone got a pair of front springs kicking around??
Late series 1 with the wide springs, or any series 2 springs would do the job.
And as a real long shot, anyone come across a Series 1 wreck that has a good front panel?? The panel goes between the front guards, and the grill, head lights and radiator mount into it.
I have two, but both are damaged
lax2wlg wrote:Is that like saying 'she's hot, for a crackwhore??
Re: Rocky Rover 1955 Series 1
DieselBoy wrote:I need some parts too!!!!
Anyone got a pair of front springs kicking around??
Late series 1 with the wide springs, or any series 2 springs would do the job.
And as a real long shot, anyone come across a Series 1 wreck that has a good front panel?? The panel goes between the front guards, and the grill, head lights and radiator mount into it.
I have two, but both are damaged
Bulletproof may have some parts, he a small collection of Landys.
Re: Rocky Rover 1955 Series 1
This is the orginal front panel:
This is one potential substitute, but its probably just as bad, if not worse
This is one potential substitute, but its probably just as bad, if not worse
lax2wlg wrote:Is that like saying 'she's hot, for a crackwhore??
Re: Rocky Rover 1955 Series 1
Its pretty bad
Gotta be a good one out there lurking under a tree or in a barn that hasn't been to hell and back beating around the bush on Club Trips for the majority of its life!!!!
Gotta be a good one out there lurking under a tree or in a barn that hasn't been to hell and back beating around the bush on Club Trips for the majority of its life!!!!
lax2wlg wrote:Is that like saying 'she's hot, for a crackwhore??
Re: Rocky Rover 1955 Series 1
A seat box of the same wreck if it exists would also be handy
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Re: Rocky Rover 1955 Series 1
On a more positive note, made good progress with the Tub.
Lots of hammer and dolly work, blocks of wood and leavers, a small amount of filler and heaps of high build primer and its starting to look less like a crumpled aluminium can. Slightly less at least
Hopefully this is the last coat of primer, and it just needs one last sand to be "good enough" for a 1955 L.R with a rough history
Still a bit wavy, but its so stretched and bent that its as good as I'm going to get it with out professional help
Lots of hammer and dolly work, blocks of wood and leavers, a small amount of filler and heaps of high build primer and its starting to look less like a crumpled aluminium can. Slightly less at least
Hopefully this is the last coat of primer, and it just needs one last sand to be "good enough" for a 1955 L.R with a rough history
Still a bit wavy, but its so stretched and bent that its as good as I'm going to get it with out professional help
lax2wlg wrote:Is that like saying 'she's hot, for a crackwhore??
Re: Rocky Rover 1955 Series 1
After the above ripply mess, just incase your now doubting how its all gonna look once its done, heres the first part finished and top coated
The Colour is "Ivory". It's spent the majority of its life a similar colour, so its only fitting.
Sanding through the paint on the tub, it left the factory as they all did, in WWII left over green. Then its been a bright orange colour, then to grey, and then to its current colour in 1983.
I can picture the finished result with black flares and black wheels. I wonder if we can get the new soft top in black
Still, theres plenty to do before that happens
The Colour is "Ivory". It's spent the majority of its life a similar colour, so its only fitting.
Sanding through the paint on the tub, it left the factory as they all did, in WWII left over green. Then its been a bright orange colour, then to grey, and then to its current colour in 1983.
I can picture the finished result with black flares and black wheels. I wonder if we can get the new soft top in black
Still, theres plenty to do before that happens
lax2wlg wrote:Is that like saying 'she's hot, for a crackwhore??
Re: Rocky Rover 1955 Series 1
Some cool pics on the next page
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