Thanks all for in the valuable info....On Tuesday I pick up my first real 4x4... A 1997 Jeep Wrangler...


Greg... Thanks for the advice!..'ll hit you soon for a drive out your ways.

I know a bit of history about Phraza's one , has been well looked after and Phraza has put on some extra stuff, the other is well set up and you wouldn't have to do much if anything to it, I prefer manual myself but each to their own really, both have their pros and cons, comes down to what you ...

In two minds really. I know building something will teach me a lot. But on the other hand I really just want to get stuck and learn how to do it. I can always build something later when I know what I want. There is so many options on trademe. I think I'll just keep having a hunt and a read for a ...

Thanks for the feedback..All great points. My thoughts, from somebody who is pretty fresh to this, would be to buy a vehicle that has already been set up. Buying stock one and then modifying it, at this stage, I would not have a clue where to start...and I'am itching just to get out. I guess the ...

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Geez! That is awesome!
Might be a bit out of my league tho, especially for my first. How much are you selling it for?

wrangler can be a bit thirsty but what the hell only live once aye and ya can't take it with ya, they are fairly easy to work on I do most stuff on mine with help from mates on the harder stuff, got a good contact for parts at really good prices from the states. look forward to hearing from ya ...

Hi mate welcome, one thing no one pointed out ( unless I missed it ), that surf looks pretty cool but if ya end up on ya roof how do ya get out in a hurry ??? I'm in Ashhurst , if you want to go for a drive somewhere give me a txt 0272560470 and we'll see what we can sort out If you don't have a ...

That thing has been for sale for ages.there's no reason why you can't modify it suit your needs.you've got it now go have some fun and start changing stuff you don't like.did it come with a step ladder to get into it? No step ladder, but strong arms are a bonus. I havnt actually bought it. I was ...

Ok, So I have scrapped the Surf idea. I guess what I need is something that is already set up. I can always change vehicle or setup later, but at the moment I really have no idea till I give it a go. At least if I buy something that is all ready to go, its a good start. Im guessing ( and please ...

Hi Gary, welcome to ORE! My first 4wd was a surf - absolutely loved it, it was standard as with a set of cheap Chinese 31" mud’s, Got stuck everywhere, but it was a great base to learn from. That thing looks like a bit of a beast. any chance you would be interested in posting up your expected p ...

Thanks everyone for your thoughts. Its much appreciated. My thoughts on the scissor doors were similar. A bit like a skier hanging with snowboarders... I did like it for something different that I could signwrite with my company, but I also dont wan't a vehicle that will stop me from learning how to ...

Hi, Just thought I would introduce myself. Gareth, from Palmy. I have wanted to get into 4x4 ing for a bout 10 years now. . Only recently have I decided that "Im not actually getting any younger", and with a lot of encouragement from the wife. I decided to jump in. I instantly saw this Surf. It a ...