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- Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:06 am
- Forum: Diesel Engines and Modifications
- Topic: WAS fume'ing (now more of a flaming thread...)
- Replies: 444
- Views: 84040
Re: fume'ing
but thats not the arguement aprently you run fume .. and you engine will instantly turn into a lump of molten metal There's something in the waikato water that stops people reading. Here it is again. LPG fumigation is bollocks and very hard on the engine for the power it delivers. Stick to diesel t...
- Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:54 am
- Forum: Diesel Engines and Modifications
- Topic: WAS fume'ing (now more of a flaming thread...)
- Replies: 444
- Views: 84040
Re: fume'ing
Hummm,You kids have had an interesting night...So ,,when exactly is my HiLux about to blow up ? It's been liveing on LPG happily for 5yrs or more.. Only one misshap with a couple cracked pistons ( Dont start Mr Bacon :) ) due to a switch/brain fade and dose of LPG on a stone cold engine. Sounds lik...
- Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:42 am
- Forum: Tool Shed
- Topic: 2.8 or V6? hmmm.. help!
- Replies: 26
- Views: 2087
Re: 2.8 or V6? hmmm.. help!
Trust me iv searched all over pirate, 4x4 wire, club isuzu etc, they all seem to be different, and as i have the diesel you hardly see them in the states! :twisted: how ever i did read a thread on pirate under isuzu section some of the guys were putting wanted adds for the 2.8 diesels and when i qu...
- Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:36 am
- Forum: Diesel Engines and Modifications
- Topic: WAS fume'ing (now more of a flaming thread...)
- Replies: 444
- Views: 84040
Re: fume'ing
Hummm,You kids have had an interesting night...So ,,when exactly is my HiLux about to blow up ? It's been liveing on LPG happily for 5yrs or more.. Only one misshap with a couple cracked pistons ( Dont start Mr Bacon :) ) due to a switch/brain fade and dose of LPG on a stone cold engine. Sounds lik...
- Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:36 am
- Forum: Diesel Engines and Modifications
- Topic: WAS fume'ing (now more of a flaming thread...)
- Replies: 444
- Views: 84040
Re: fume'ing
People quite often mistake torque they see on a dyno sheet as engine torque, it's quite easy to set up your gear ratios so your wheel torque is astronomical :) My ex-bosses drag car forced his dyno guy to upgrade to a dynapak rated at 3000nm. Since KiwiBacon likes numbers, what boost would a 2.8L p...
- Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:28 am
- Forum: Diesel Engines and Modifications
- Topic: WAS fume'ing (now more of a flaming thread...)
- Replies: 444
- Views: 84040
Re: fume'ing
umm no cylander presure is the reason for det in a petrol engine as well and timing will not always fix it run to lean ... you get det and burnt valves run to rich .. you get bore wash run to much timing you get det and burnt valves run to little timing you get massive egt's run to much compresson ...
- Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:54 pm
- Forum: Diesel Engines and Modifications
- Topic: WAS fume'ing (now more of a flaming thread...)
- Replies: 444
- Views: 84040
Re: fume'ing
Mr Kiwibacon, take a chill pill. Your making yourself look like a cock smack with a sore wrist. Your initial claim was that LPG fumigation didn't work. No it wasn't. :roll: yes it was :roll: (wonder how it would go with LPG injection. :twisted: It'd go bang. :( LPG fumigation is bollocks and very h...
- Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:49 pm
- Forum: Diesel Engines and Modifications
- Topic: WAS fume'ing (now more of a flaming thread...)
- Replies: 444
- Views: 84040
Re: fume'ing
The story is the system had several user selectable "power levels". Turns out the "most power" one wasn't so good for the engine. So this is the same as having different boost levels and expecting everything else to cope. The whole point of a gas system is it puts in more fuel s...
- Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:45 pm
- Forum: Diesel Engines and Modifications
- Topic: WAS fume'ing (now more of a flaming thread...)
- Replies: 444
- Views: 84040
Re: fume'ing
DieselBoy wrote:Mr Kiwibacon, take a chill pill.
Your making yourself look like a cock smack with a sore wrist.
Your initial claim was that LPG fumigation didn't work.
No it wasn't.
- Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:16 pm
- Forum: Diesel Engines and Modifications
- Topic: WAS fume'ing (now more of a flaming thread...)
- Replies: 444
- Views: 84040
Re: fume'ing
With how long it has been around and how many companies sell kits with warranty, it amazes me that people still clam it will blow up the world. Yes it will kill your motor if done wrong, no one has ever said it won't. But it is like saying that a turbo is unreliable. Yes they use to be and all that...
- Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:04 pm
- Forum: Diesel Engines and Modifications
- Topic: WAS fume'ing (now more of a flaming thread...)
- Replies: 444
- Views: 84040
Re: fume'ing
never said anything about KW ( i think that was 120?) :roll: actualy i started this thread to talk about fuming a diesel engine and if you do it right it works fine with good gains which is where it started in the tow wagon thread. where are these blatantly bogus figures?? the only figures i have t...
- Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:54 pm
- Forum: Diesel Engines and Modifications
- Topic: WAS fume'ing (now more of a flaming thread...)
- Replies: 444
- Views: 84040
Re: fume'ing
Guys guys, if the MATHEMATICAL/GOOGLE master says you need 60psi to make 1000nm than that must be true :roll: ,real world experience dont mean shit unless it matches a mathematical equation on paper :( come on guys think about.... :roll: dont mess with a google master :lol: Shane It has just been p...
- Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:52 pm
- Forum: Diesel Engines and Modifications
- Topic: WAS fume'ing (now more of a flaming thread...)
- Replies: 444
- Views: 84040
Re: fume'ing
Also I bet that melted piston had an aftermarket turbo so that just proves that any aftermarket turbo kit will melt your motor! Or does it mean that a muppet tuned it with too high egt's? Cummins 6, factory turbo. The increase in EGT's was solely due to gas, the diesel system reportedly untouched. ...
- Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:00 pm
- Forum: Diesel Engines and Modifications
- Topic: WAS fume'ing (now more of a flaming thread...)
- Replies: 444
- Views: 84040
Re: fume'ing
hang fire how do you know were the power is ? i cant see anywhere in the threed hes stated rpm .... or were hes actially stated anythign of the power .. i saw .. i think .. but that could be from thin air no point making up stuff to abuse someone with and with no rpm or dyno figure produced yet .. ...
- Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:54 pm
- Forum: Diesel Engines and Modifications
- Topic: WAS fume'ing (now more of a flaming thread...)
- Replies: 444
- Views: 84040
Re: fume'ing
smurf182 wrote:wopass wrote:look at the humble bumble, he shouldnt be able to fly...but he does it with ease
Urban myth
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/5400/title/Flight_of_the_Bumblebee
Just like the 1000Nm cruiser engine.
- Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:51 pm
- Forum: Diesel Engines and Modifications
- Topic: WAS fume'ing (now more of a flaming thread...)
- Replies: 444
- Views: 84040
Re: fume'ing
i dont think hes metioned at what rpm so i think its a little unfair to be making such asumption's he might have 120kw @ 1000 rpm .... i think the point of the threed was you told someone that there fume will make your truck blow up .. and right to now that simply untrue its not the fume that makes...
- Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:37 pm
- Forum: Diesel Engines and Modifications
- Topic: WAS fume'ing (now more of a flaming thread...)
- Replies: 444
- Views: 84040
Re: fume'ing
never said anything about KW ( i think that was 120?) :roll: and it would make my 350chev powered 40 look so stupid down the 1/4 it wouldnt be funny :lol: ..actualy that is kinda funny :lol: :lol: ohh and i do appreciate the nature of my claims :wink: how many winch comp trucks running 4.2dt engine...
- Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:27 pm
- Forum: Diesel Engines and Modifications
- Topic: WAS fume'ing (now more of a flaming thread...)
- Replies: 444
- Views: 84040
Re: fume'ing
you can call what ever you like it remains the same and theres more than just one (my dads)4.2dt thats poking out the same if not more than that. just because you cant get the results and all the numbers dont think you can do it...doesnt mean the rest of us cant. look at the humble bumble, he shoul...
- Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:22 pm
- Forum: Diesel Engines and Modifications
- Topic: WAS fume'ing (now more of a flaming thread...)
- Replies: 444
- Views: 84040
Re: fume'ing
as you said too much gas if you do it RIGHT(like we and many others did) it works well and about that 970nm cruiser...its O for Orsum to drive and pulls like a Uni grad who just finished his degree :lol: Good to see you guys acknowledge what's possible. There's far to much of the "do it, do it...
- Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:19 pm
- Forum: Diesel Engines and Modifications
- Topic: WAS fume'ing (now more of a flaming thread...)
- Replies: 444
- Views: 84040
Re: fume'ing
In Europe all the new commercial trucks and buses have had to go to this sort of system to reduce emissions, the added power is a bonus for them. The newest standards for comercial trucks in europe require them to run three fuel tanks, One Diesel, One Eurea and one LPG to pass current new vehicle e...
- Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:16 am
- Forum: Diesel Engines and Modifications
- Topic: WAS fume'ing (now more of a flaming thread...)
- Replies: 444
- Views: 84040
Re: fume'ing
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: i guess that all the guys that use fumagation very succesfully are just lucky then eh what would they know...dumb experts that spend millions of dollars in research...should have just come to see you for the answers :roll: I haven't seen a gas fumigation system yet tha...
- Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:48 am
- Forum: Diesel Engines and Modifications
- Topic: WAS fume'ing (now more of a flaming thread...)
- Replies: 444
- Views: 84040
Re: fume'ing
ive done a fair bit of tuning over the years .. and detination is a natural part if finding the (petrol based) limit of yoru engine i use whats called a det set .. i pezo microphone(knock sensor) connected to a filter and a set of headphones while you can acurately guess what will be "ok"...
- Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:44 am
- Forum: Diesel Engines and Modifications
- Topic: WAS fume'ing (now more of a flaming thread...)
- Replies: 444
- Views: 84040
Re: fume'ing
8 liter petrol can make over 1200 nm on just 14 psi of boost .. just out of intrest also quite strange i know of a few dedicated lpg engines running over 13:1 static compression .... That is believable. The best you get from a NA petrol is about 100Nm per litre of displacement. 8 litres = 800Nm 14p...
- Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:10 pm
- Forum: Diesel Engines and Modifications
- Topic: WAS fume'ing (now more of a flaming thread...)
- Replies: 444
- Views: 84040
Re: fume'ing
and yes it does have near on 1000nm of tourqe, 970 to be more accurate and yes the ratios were correct as i queried him on it :roll: theres plenty of guys that do and have good results. Got a dyno sheet for that? As I said earlier, to get 1000Nm from a 4.2 diesel you need around 60psi boost. There ...
- Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:58 pm
- Forum: 4WD's Forsale / Wanted
- Topic: Tow Wagon Thread
- Replies: 68
- Views: 3929
Re: Tow Wagon Thread
i think the point is more... there both still running and running well keen to know your first hand experance on this before you start throwing wild accusations at wopass Yep, run lpg into my diesel and it detonates violently. Presume you guys all know the legality of such systems in this country?
- Sun Mar 22, 2009 3:09 pm
- Forum: 4WD's Forsale / Wanted
- Topic: Tow Wagon Thread
- Replies: 68
- Views: 3929
Re: Tow Wagon Thread
do you really know anything about LPG fume in a diesel?? have you done it?? zilla has a fume kit in his lux..i think that is still running :mrgreen: we have installed a fume kit on a 24v VX 80 series running 35" tyres and its pretty good and has done thousands of Kms towing a big ass camper tr...
- Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:05 am
- Forum: 4WD's Forsale / Wanted
- Topic: Tow Wagon Thread
- Replies: 68
- Views: 3929
Re: Tow Wagon Thread
UBZ wrote:(wonder how it would go with LPG injection.
It'd go bang.
LPG fumigation is bollocks and very hard on the engine for the power it delivers. Stick to diesel tuning, plenty of examples of hot-rod duramax on the net.
- Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:40 am
- Forum: Nissan
- Topic: holden 3.8 into navara / terrano
- Replies: 7
- Views: 1142
Re: holden 3.8 into navara / terrano
vvega wrote:KiwiBacon wrote:Wouldn't the nissan 3 litre be a better and more straightforward swap?
It'll certainly use less fuel.
rb30 is a better motor as well ...
I meant the v6, can't remember the engine code. RB30 would be nice but might not fit.
- Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:39 am
- Forum: Nissan
- Topic: holden 3.8 into navara / terrano
- Replies: 7
- Views: 1142
Re: holden 3.8 into navara / terrano
if you go for the 3ltr nissan belive you don't need to cert as within 20 percent power incress and prob same mounting point if your lucky Nope. Change of engine configuration means a cert is required. Had a mate who put a terrano 3l V6 and 5 speed into a navara, went like a cut cat and was almost a...
- Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:29 pm
- Forum: Nissan
- Topic: holden 3.8 into navara / terrano
- Replies: 7
- Views: 1142
Re: holden 3.8 into navara / terrano
Wouldn't the nissan 3 litre be a better and more straightforward swap?
It'll certainly use less fuel.
It'll certainly use less fuel.