The 42 Traverse Discussion Thread

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The 42 Traverse Discussion Thread

Postby skid » Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:29 pm

I wrote an article about the 42 Traverse and how it came to be usable by 4wders and the effort that went into it.

Here is the link to the article which is in a locked thread.................

http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/Forums/ ... 27&t=33169

If you wish to discuss anything about it, then this is the thread to do it in.

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Re: The 42 Traverse Discussion Thread

Postby spanky » Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:13 pm

DOC has been asking the lodge manager and pub owner and some of us locals which club was in all the closed tracks on labour weekend,they want to fine and prosecute the offenders,some parts where left impassible for DOC on their 4x4 quads,we know who it is but are not dobbing any one in, they are not local and they know who they are as they do it every year,this is going to #### it for all 4x4ers after all the hard work done by those skid has talked about.nice one guys.

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Re: The 42 Traverse Discussion Thread

Postby ice4x4 » Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:18 pm

spanky wrote:DOC has been asking the lodge manager and pub owner and some of us locals which club was in all the closed tracks on labour weekend,they want to fine and prosecute the offenders,some parts where left impassible for DOC on their 4x4 quads,we know who it is but are not dobbing any one in, they are not local and they know who they are as they do it every year,this is going to #### it for all 4x4ers after all the hard work done by those skid has talked about.nice one guys.


Personally I vote for dobbing the bunch of tools in! :x
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Re: The 42 Traverse Discussion Thread

Postby datsunsafari » Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:27 pm

name and shame i say,it might stop them from doing this every year and giving all of us a bad name

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Re: The 42 Traverse Discussion Thread

Postby lincooln » Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:36 pm

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Re: The 42 Traverse Discussion Thread

Postby spanky » Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:43 pm

i told the ranger that contacted me that it would be some random group and not a 4wd club as they all know the consequences of such behaviour when it comes to land access,as such i will not name any club.no 4x4 club needs bad publicity.

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Re: The 42 Traverse Discussion Thread

Postby DaveM » Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:44 pm

IMO, if there are people out there who know who did the damage, and don't pass these details on, they are just as idiotic.

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Re: The 42 Traverse Discussion Thread

Postby DaveM » Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:50 pm

spanky wrote:i told the ranger that contacted me that it would be some random group and not a 4wd club as they all know the consequences of such behaviour when it comes to land access,as such i will not name any club.no 4x4 club needs bad publicity.

Any bad publicity through acts of stupidity or ignorance is more than deserved. If it was a club run, these twats obviously think they can go where they wish, when they wish. No sport needs a bad club like this.

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Re: The 42 Traverse Discussion Thread

Postby lincooln » Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:22 pm

I agree. I like clubs and all that, but if you are idiotic enough to do something like this, then you should be willing to face the consequences.
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Re: The 42 Traverse Discussion Thread

Postby Smurf » Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:17 pm

A club knowingly going into a closed area is worse than a few randoms doing the same as far as I'm concerned

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Re: The 42 Traverse Discussion Thread

Postby spanky » Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:45 pm

wouldnt be a club trip,no club would use those tracks as closed to 4x4s by doc,just a bunch of individuals with club stickers on their trucks.other bush users see a few 4x4s together and assume its a club up there.

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Re: The 42 Traverse Discussion Thread

Postby DaveM » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:33 am

spanky wrote:wouldnt be a club trip,no club would use those tracks as closed to 4x4s by doc,just a bunch of individuals with club stickers on their trucks.other bush users see a few 4x4s together and assume its a club up there.

Possibly, but then you are assuming no club would do this. Either way, they should be identified so the "innocent" club can deal with the members

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Re: The 42 Traverse Discussion Thread

Postby Smurf » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:00 am

spanky wrote:wouldnt be a club trip,no club would use those tracks as closed to 4x4s by doc,just a bunch of individuals with club stickers on their trucks.other bush users see a few 4x4s together and assume its a club up there.


The way I read your post it sounded like it was a club going in there.
If it is members of a club then that club needs to know so they can deal with their 'rogue' members.
There was a thread on here very recently where a member was banned from his club for a long period due to irresponsible behaviour. A spur of the moment occurence. This is no different, it is worse really as it is more than one irresposible person and this activity is planned, and not a one off incident.
You have put this information on a public forum, which puts a bad light on us all as 4wders, (protecting our own) if we allow this type of activity to continue.

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Re: The 42 Traverse Discussion Thread

Postby TJ » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:58 am

I agres, if an innocent club's name is being used by a few rogue members for personal activities, then the club has the right to know. It seems you are now trying to pretend you know less than how much you actually know.

It would be better if you let NZ4WDA know through email what you know. Let the Association deal with it appropriately.
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Re: The 42 Traverse Discussion Thread

Postby skid » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:12 pm

it has been dealt with by the NZFWDA :wink:
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Re: The 42 Traverse Discussion Thread

Postby Cameron » Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:11 pm

Got a day off monday and away over wknd so was thinking of doin a solo run thru here. Anyone been through lately? Would be in a stock swb paj with 31 muds no winch.

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Re: The 42 Traverse Discussion Thread

Postby mike » Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:47 pm

nice write up about the 42nd traverse skid. Dani's (my wife) late father was the head of forest and bird from 89 to 2000 so was most likely the one at the meeting. He grew up in owhango so no doubt it was a very 'dont f with my home' project for him.
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Re: The 42 Traverse Discussion Thread

Postby PeterVahry » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:28 pm

Cameron, the vegetation is still 'close' on the southern end and does generate some pin-striping effects. Auck 4WD went through in January.

To fix the overgrowing vegetation will require a significant effort. 25 people in November cleared 6 km at the Owhango end over about 12 hours and there is probably three times that distance to cut back still.

I recognised some areas that were cut back about 5 years ago and now need it again, so if some program was established to cut back annually, the route could be divided into 4 sections with one done each year.

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Re: The 42 Traverse Discussion Thread

Postby Cameron » Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:38 pm

Choice. Any plans fir another this year?

Also, sounds like i shal be ok if i dont mind scratches?

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Re: The 42 Traverse Discussion Thread

Postby chris4x4 » Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:09 pm

Cameron wrote:Choice. Any plans fir another this year?

Also, sounds like i shal be ok if i dont mind scratches?


You'll be ok providing you have a good level of experience and you take it easy. I lived and worked in the area for 5 years and have done the 42 more times than i can remember but the moment you let up respect for the track it'll bite you!

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Re: The 42 Traverse Discussion Thread

Postby Cameron » Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:49 am

rofl, chickened out and spent half the day pulling shrubs out with a rope instead :P

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Re: The 42 Traverse Discussion Thread

Postby spanky » Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:02 pm

is very dry in there at the mo, been no substantial rain for 6-8 weeks,we have been in there digging some drains and cut outs to keep the water off the track when it rains next,still got some digging and a short subsoil drain to do by the blown up bridge,is easy to do solo but not the best idea in case you have a break down as the cell reception is patchy in there, and i doubt a cyclist will double you out :lol: .also we have a complete fire ban in the greater ruapehu area so please be careful when cooking or smoking in there,if you do go solo pm me and i can give you my contact #.

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Re: The 42 Traverse Discussion Thread

Postby dsignal » Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:35 pm

Did the traverse with my dad in Dec 2012 , awesome scenery. helped a couple of people on bikes get up one of the steeper sandy sections. Brilliant day lotsa bush pinstriping but no worries. Will do it again when I'm down that way if I have time.

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Re: The 42 Traverse Discussion Thread

Postby 00falcon » Fri Dec 27, 2013 2:12 pm

Got to the Kapoors end of the 42 this week... and found this sign...?

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Yet the doc website show this...

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Are DOC Closing the 42 to 4wd's...?
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Re: The 42 Traverse Discussion Thread

Postby coxsy » Fri Dec 27, 2013 3:46 pm

no just telling you it shuts over winter :!: :lol:
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Re: The 42 Traverse Discussion Thread

Postby Weemsy » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:27 pm

coxsy wrote:no just telling you it shuts over winter :!: :lol:


That doesn't explain the sign in the middle of summer though.....
Its better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.

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Re: The 42 Traverse Discussion Thread

Postby coxsy » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:40 pm

we share the track that's the agreement , unless they changed the rules,
but peter varey would know about it,
maybe sign is for side quad track and put in wrong place
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Re: The 42 Traverse Discussion Thread

Postby PeterVahry » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:46 pm

DoC should have removed or covered that sign for the summer months but with their ongoing 'restructuring' the person responsible is probably not aware the sign exists. A note has gone to DoC.

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Re: The 42 Traverse Discussion Thread

Postby Cameron » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:16 am

anyone shot through recently? thinking of a solo trip next weekend?
Will it be the worst decision of my life/will I die?

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