Trouble Changing Gear

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Trouble Changing Gear

Postby Drurban » Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:36 pm

Hi All,

I have a 1997 Isuzu Mu 3.1L TD Manual, I have started to notice that it is hard to get it into first or reverse, it does not do this all the time some days it is easy to get into gear with out a problem.

Has anyone had this issue? also how can you tell when the gear box is on it's way out.

If someone can shed light on the subject would be great.

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Re: Trouble Changing Gear

Postby GotFlex » Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:53 pm

Hows the clutch, could be slipping?
just to clarifyyou are stopping the truck from going forward before you select reverse?
joking!! Isuzu gearboxes typically are pretty strong, how ever they run a very light 10w30 engine oil.
When bearings wear out they will damage the internals and tend to require most of the bits to replaced (mainshfts etc)
This was the advice i got from geartech when i looked at re-bearing my gearbox.
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Re: Trouble Changing Gear

Postby pouw » Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:55 pm

Is it hard to go into gear when it is cold but easy when it is warm? Cheers
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Re: Trouble Changing Gear

Postby Drurban » Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:56 pm

Well the clutch is not that old and should be still good, I will have to look at the paper work to see when I got it done.
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Re: Trouble Changing Gear

Postby Drurban » Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:58 pm

pouw wrote:Is it hard to go into gear when it is cold but easy when it is warm? Cheers


Yeah as today it was quite cold and it was hard to put in gear but when it warmed up it was getting easier.

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Re: Trouble Changing Gear

Postby meatc » Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:59 pm

Try changing the oil, its probably full of water and crap and not workin as it should
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Re: Trouble Changing Gear

Postby Drurban » Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:04 pm

meatc wrote:Try changing the oil, its probably full of water and crap and not workin as it should


Yeah I will do that and see what happens, also when changing down from fifth to fourth it didn't want to go in ( did not force it ) and made a horrible noise just for a few seconds and back it off, maybe I was still going to high for the gear change.
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Re: Trouble Changing Gear

Postby Drurban » Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:18 pm

GotFlex wrote:Hows the clutch, could be slipping?
just to clarifyyou are stopping the truck from going forward before you select reverse?
joking!! Isuzu gearboxes typically are pretty strong, how ever they run a very light 10w30 engine oil.
When bearings wear out they will damage the internals and tend to require most of the bits to replaced (mainshfts etc)
This was the advice i got from geartech when i looked at re-bearing my gearbox.


Thanks GotFlex, Yep Iam deffinitley coming to a complete stop before a put it in reverse :lol: , I will have to do some research on this.
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Re: Trouble Changing Gear

Postby GotFlex » Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:28 pm

:D yeah give geartech a buzz, they seem to know there stuff
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Re: Trouble Changing Gear

Postby mud_slinger » Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:43 pm

if your running a heavy oil it can be hard to shift when it is cold mine is until it warms up. i'm in the process of putting 15w40 in my boxes.
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Re: Trouble Changing Gear

Postby FORGE1 » Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:19 pm

Mine used to do the same thing but for 1st, 2nd and reverse. I ended up replacing the gearbox becasue it also had a bad whine.

I also run Auto trans fluid in mine and its all good no problems and no noises.
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Re: Trouble Changing Gear

Postby Drurban » Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:45 pm

FORGE1 wrote:Mine used to do the same thing but for 1st, 2nd and reverse. I ended up replacing the gearbox becasue it also had a bad whine.

I also run Auto trans fluid in mine and its all good no problems and no noises.


Yeah mine is the same as yours 1st, 2nd and reverse but no whine tho.

Will have to see what I will do.

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Re: Trouble Changing Gear

Postby GTS » Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:38 pm

Mine gets hard to change when the oil gets low.I destroyed the front bearing and the input shaft got so hot the whole gearbox locked up.I replaced the front bearing and seal ($100)and its still going strong (but very noisy) its got no hard serfaceing left on the gear on the input shaft and its been 10 months.so I would try changing the oil first I just use the same oil I do in my engine.

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Re: Trouble Changing Gear

Postby dirtysouth4x4 » Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:44 pm

i have the same problem with my mu , do you suggest geting an oil change ? is there water and shit in there?

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