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Lazy lifter

Postby Heath » Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:31 pm

Anyone have any tips for curing this problem? It usually goes away afetr 10-15 minutes of driving but I dont like the sound and to my thinking it cant be good for something.

It is only really apparent on Monday mornings after a weekend of sitting idle and is really bad when under load.

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Re: Lazy lifter

Postby tallsam66 » Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:36 pm

Im no expert but i had the same problem in a subaru leone once....turned out the oil pump needed a rebuilt...wasnt supplying quite enough oil to make them work properly.

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Re: Lazy lifter

Postby Heath » Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:46 pm

Bugger, did the water pump and head and cambelt a few months ago, shouldve put that on the list also.

Might have to find a pressure gauge and see what it is pushing at.

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Re: Lazy lifter

Postby taz01 » Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:15 pm

try an oil change but toss in bottle of morays wonderful stuff also does auto and man gearboxs power steer diffs etc
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Re: Lazy lifter

Postby Heath » Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:55 pm

taz01 wrote:try an oil change but toss in bottle of morays wonderful stuff also does auto and man gearboxs power steer diffs etc


I grabbed some of that stuff the other day and it hasnt made a difference yet but supposedly takes a few hundred Km's to work.

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Re: Lazy lifter

Postby skid » Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:47 pm

wot motor

I had a subie once that developed a noisy lifter and by the time I got back to taupo from masterton it was real bad,

we drained oil, flushed engine, topped up with ever so slightly thicker oil and a bottle of MBL8 and still the faaarkin noise was ther

so I went down the road somewhere quiet and held the engine on the limiter, after the 5th time the noise went away and never came back, since sold to a mate who still has it and still no noise return

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Re: Lazy lifter

Postby Heath » Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:13 pm

2.2 petrol, ford engine (from my courier ute)

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Postby Landy Rover » Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:36 pm

Ford-Mazda engine FE 12valve, once they start getting rattly lifters only real cure is put new ones in. Otherwise noise will come and go, but no real damage occurs. Mitsis as well have no end of trouble with noisy hydraulic lifters.
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Re: Lazy lifter

Postby safaripete » Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:11 pm

my courier work ute is doing the same thing

did an oil change and it went away until next oil change was due :)

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Re: Lazy lifter

Postby Steve_t647 » Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:02 pm

In my old car the hydraulic lifters used to do this after an oil change, the lifters would get some air up in the top of them and rattle till warm I found a thicker oil was better (was a race car so used thinner and synthetic oil), after a while driving it would go away and be sirted till the next oil change, I had also knifed the big end to reduce the friction of it cutting through the oil
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Re: Lazy lifter

Postby scratcher » Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:33 pm

had the same engine in the wifes runaround, did same thing so I kept the oil level up near full and stopped all the rattles. Its probably means that the pump was tied

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Re: Lazy lifter

Postby j_tomo » Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:16 pm

in my experience with the subys when they start tapping there due for a service

however ive had the same problem with twin cam mitsi's (vr4)
a bottle of pro-ma sorts it out, its the only thing that actualy stoped the ticking
lasts about 5,000ks so i threw one in every service

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Re: Lazy lifter

Postby Toymota2 » Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:08 pm

I had the same problem with my mazda b2200 F2 same as your Courier engine. Gave it to many revs one day and out comes a nice loud tick tick tick!!! kept on driving it like that for a month until i could not handle it anymore. Went to BNT brought 1 new lifter for $5.50, went home, found the sticky bugger and swapped it for the new one. Couple hours later she was good as gold!
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Re: Lazy lifter

Postby Heath » Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:17 pm

Sold it a while ago and never got it fixed (bit slack I know) but it is still doing it and still running. :roll:

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Re: Lazy lifter

Postby getsum » Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:50 am

my g6 proceed has noisey lifters..the noise is annoying, not always there.
have used proma, was good for about 1000kms, but ill just change the lifts,its cheaper than running it on proma and more frequent oil changes..

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Re: Lazy lifter

Postby pjb » Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:51 am

Same problem with noisey lifters in Mitsi 3.0 V6 engines.
Put thicker oil and MBL8 in mine and it went away immediately.
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Re: Lazy lifter

Postby bang-thud-thump » Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:25 pm

Yup Pro Ma MBL is the go. It was the only thing we ever found to shut up lifters from basic to flash motors.

I have heard good stuff with gearboxes with it too but never tried it.

most solutions in a bottle are rubbish, Pro ma works.

Engine flushes have a habit of dumping the loosened crud around the motor.

If really bad the sludge covers the oil pick up. Then the bearings come knocking to say they are unhappy.

or you get an electrical fault - the con rod escapes and smashes the dizzy or alternator off :lol:

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Re: Lazy lifter

Postby bang-thud-thump » Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:26 pm

And use it as the bottle says - mixed with new oil!!!!!!!!!

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