big calibers small critters

2roky · Post by **2roky** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 6:36 pm

how many people use big calibers 222 or bigger on things like rabbits and or possums?

i do and they good fun hit it anywhere between the nose and the tail with me 223 and you've completely rodgered rodger the rabbit lol :twisted:

basics · Post by **basics** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:26 pm

hit a goat at 2ft with a 270 in the head, made bit of a mess

Smurf · Post by **Smurf** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:54 pm

I use a 22-250 on goats and deer, shoots nice and straight, get a good hit with the ballistics, soft noses tend to leave too small a hole if you hit them from a distance.

2roky · Post by **2roky** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:25 pm

im talkin those sorts of calibers but on smaller things like rabbits or hares

basics · Post by **basics** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:48 pm

at 2 bucks a shot. i dont think so :wink:

Moriarty · Post by **Moriarty** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:09 pm

we used to go small game shooting with our deerstalking rifles.

7mm rem mag
8 mm mauser
284 Win
270 win
.243 win
6 mm rem
.222rem
.44 rem mag!!

and what ever else we could dredge up.
Best fun we ever had was at the Hasting's tip many years ago, shooting rats with our big cannons, Wero was very impressed!!!!

Ifn you kin hit a running hare with yer 7mm rem mag, you kin hit a running deer!! call it practice as well as good fun.
Looking forward to shooting river goats at Huntly with Wopass. May bring the trippletwo but I think he has neighbours?

2roky · Post by **2roky** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:16 pm

thats why i reload. and rats shit they allready that small n qwik it would be hard to tell if ya hit them or not lol but with cannons like those the fright that it would get would just about kill it. n that is true about a running hare if ya can hit that you can hit a deer

Moriarty · Post by **Moriarty** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:44 pm

2roky wrote:thats why i reload. and rats shit they allready that small n qwik it would be hard to tell if ya hit them or not lol but with cannons like those the fright that it would get would just about kill it. n that is true about a running hare if ya can hit that you can hit a deer

Yah smack a rat with even the 44, and there is a large bloodstain, more if you are using a 243 or 222

ask wopass about sneaking around in the freezing cold on Bosshoggs surf at night spotting for deer and only getting rabbits!!

warpphead · Post by **warpphead** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:04 pm

i shoot a poussum with a .243 magnuim from 5m an it skined it an cooked it in one go

luke25 · Post by **luke25** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:32 pm

I shot a rabbit at 600m with the 25mm cannon on an army LAV. At $150 a round I'm glad I wasn't paying for it.

Heath · Post by **Heath** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:40 pm

Im guessing tpt round and not Hei, although APfsds would be cool pin that sucker. You haven got any of the armour pen round projectiles have ya? Cant get them up here we only use the HEI and TPT

Moriarty · Post by **Moriarty** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:47 am

warpphead wrote:i shoot a poussum with a .243 magnuim from 5m an it skined it an cooked it in one go

243 magnum? made by WHOM? Rem? Win? That's a new one on me.
tell me more.

Had to edit this.
Went to Wikipedia and found this.....

wikipedia wrote:
Performance

In their ballistics tables, Winchester list a very high muzzle velocity of 4060 ft/sec with a 55 grain projectile for this cartridge.[4] Based on Hodgdon reloading data typical velocities should range from approximately 4,000 ft/sec with a 58 grain bullet to approximately 3,000 ft/sec with a 100 grain bullet.[1] The percentage gain in performance over the older .243 Winchester is around 10% or less, and it remains to be seen if the market will offer a commercially viable place to two 6 mm sporting cartridges that have such similar performance.

This cartridge is usually used for small game such as varminting, and used for animals as big as deer.

The interesting bit is the feed problem, the major increase in powder and costs, and the inability of making ammo from another cartridge for very little gain.

I used to run a 6MM rem for a while, I could get 3000 FPS with a 100gn slug and make my cases if needed out of 30.06 brass.

Poacher-HILUX · Post by **Poacher-HILUX** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:30 am

I use a 222sako on rabbits. headge hogs anything small.

total mess after you hit a rabbit at about 200m

Moriarty · Post by **Moriarty** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:56 pm

Poacher-HILUX wrote:I use a 222sako on rabbits. headge hogs anything small.

total mess after you hit a rabbit at about 200m

Did a cracker of a shot on an Oodle Ardle a few years back, when I lived in Huntly, the Arsehole of the North Island, plugged it when it was behind a small windrow of earth, the .222 had just enuff resistance to expand nicely without blowing up. Only thing that DID blow up was the Oodle Ardle!! mess of feathers blowing in the wind. Was relatively close, though, maybe 100 yds.

luke25 · Post by **luke25** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:29 pm

Heath wrote:Im guessing tpt round and not Hei, although APfsds would be cool pin that sucker. You haven got any of the armour pen round projectiles have ya? Cant get them up here we only use the HEI and TPT

It was the training TPDS-t fin stabilised sabot dart. The training one has a steel dart. The real one has a tungsten one with better fins. Didn't make much difference on a rabbit. The real ones cost $800

2roky · Post by **2roky** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:12 pm

not so much a small critter but impressive all the same was my 308 norma magnum on a full growen central otago nanny goat. picked it up and moved it close on 2m. 5 goats for the day with it not one twitched and they were all front end/sholder chest shots all over 250m away furtherest being round 400m

Moriarty · Post by **Moriarty** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:00 am

2roky wrote:not so much a small critter but impressive all the same was my 308 norma magnum on a full growen central otago nanny goat. picked it up and moved it close on 2m. 5 goats for the day with it not one twitched and they were all front end/shoulder chest shots all over 250m away furtherest being round 400m

308 Norma Mag!! Ohhh I am in love!! Just thinking about it makes my liddle heart go pitter patter!! Allus wanted one of them and it's companion round, the (also) obsolete 7X61 Sharpe and Hart.

Two excellent rounds. HOW the fark do you get on replacing lost brass? Steal 7mm Rem Mag brass off a mate?.

2roky · Post by **2roky** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:31 pm

neck down and trim 300 win mag or 338 or 7mm is what i can do so far i have only tried the 300 mag

prespec · Post by **prespec** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:44 am

I love shooting small things a long way off with big stuff. Started out with a heavy barrel 30/06 in the 70's with 130 Speer hp. Many hares and bunnies got the red mist.
I also have a 308 Norma mag which blows things up nicely :lol:

Kills deer just nicely too , with 165 gr Hornady's ending up just under the skin on the other side at 300 or so.

I had a 22/250 which did for a lot of varmints with 50gr Speer TNT's and that has just been re-barreled to 6mmRem with a fast-twist tube. One observer likened a bunny shoot to a red towell being thrown in the air.

The last few years I have been using my suppressed h-bar mini 14 in 223 and have nailed bunnies out to 350 yds with it, magpie at 280yds.
I have just re-barreled this to 204 Ruger and have not really had time to develop the loads yet, but it shows every sign of being a tack-driver too.
My other Mini is a 223 with a 1-8 barrel and is suppressed too.

I see Ruger have finally done the right thing and done an h-bar version. The Accuracy Systems versions look good too and are probably worth every cent when you realise how much work is involved getting a Mini set up properly.
The big thing is a gas-housing that allows the barrel to pass through without stepping down and back up. I make my own. You can go 3/4" then .
Any thicker requires altering the operating rod offset like the AS versions.

I had a 30/404 Jeffery for a while, 180Sierra at about 3600. Very spectacular on goats ,virtually cutting them in half, but generally a PITA to load for....having to make my own dies etc. This has now gone back to 308 Norma mag and I'm still using brass I had 28 years ago.
The same action has also sported a 30 Super (30 on the 8mm mag case) and a 7mm Shooting Times Westerner.

It doesn't matter how fast it goes if you miss. Accuracy is the key.

penetrator · Post by **penetrator** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:19 pm

.270WSM shooting 130grn Hornady SST's does the job for me. Not so much the small game but anything from fallow chamois, reds and thar

Couple of pics of some recent results below

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Moriarty · Post by **Moriarty** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:35 pm

penetrator wrote

.270WSM shooting 130grn Hornady SST's does the job for me. Not so much the small game but anything from fallow chamois, reds and thar

Couple of pics of some recent results below

Did that help?

What you had done was copied the link location, not the IMAGE location. Also have the img tags at each end of each line.
Bob.

mudhaw · Post by **mudhaw** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:25 pm

Want to see some good video fottage and pics check this out
http://www.dogbegone.com
It might pay not to let the mrs see, so keep the laughter down and try noy to fall off you seat :shock:

Dion

Nailz · Post by **Nailz** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:19 am

Me and Kornfarmer went out in nelson one night with the SKS (i think we were using hollow pionts) cut a possum clean in half with one round, what a fu(ken mess!

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