413 suspension shackles 2" lift

new2zukes · Post by **new2zukes** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 8:45 pm

hi all i have some 31x10.5 mud tires sitting in my garage and have no use for them so i thought i could fit them under my 413 stock susupesion with a 2" lengthened shackle i have seen them on http://www.calmini.com looks like an easy way to lift my truck has anyone done this to theirs and is it possible to make some of my own as they seem very expensive? and would i need longer shocks or extended drivelines?
cheers
martin

meatc · Post by **meatc** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:19 pm

shackles are easy to make. Bit of steel bar and some bolts.

You could use standard shocks but will lose all your down travel. Need to modify the brake hose mounts a bit (bend rear one lower front ones).

Not sure how the 31s would fit. prob have extend the bump stops.

Fitting longer shocks is pretty easy and not to expensive.

lilpigzuk · Post by **lilpigzuk** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:34 pm

generally speaking too fit 31" tyres too a 410/413 you need a 2" spring lift or hack the shit out of the guards - take them back too the inner guard level, zuks have an outer lip that drops back down towards tyres. the front diff will have too be moved forward on stock springs - redrilling spring perch on diff and u bolt plate. You can move diff forward bout 20mm or so before the draglink starts rubbing on track rod, easier too explain with pics, but cant be arsed searching net for them, if you dont you will be rubbing on firewall. While you rubbing on firewall there is a seam that sticks out, either hammer it back against firewall or grind it back and reweld before it splits too much too weld.
By all means try 2 inch longer hangers but remember that the other end is fixed the diff is half way along leaf spring therefore the diff itself is only getting lifted 1 inch, again hope that is clear otherwise.....pics, CBF, etc. Make sure rims have sufficient offset, - get white spoked mangels/ROH/other. There seems too be 2 offsets available, one for vitara (zero offset) and one for SJ/sierra (approx -10 offset) the vitara ones may not give you enough offset too avoid spring rubbage on leaf springs on full lock. Assuming you have modded front bumper from standard otherwise there are two "stalks" that stick out from the end of chassis that the standard front bumper mounts too, chop these back too the front body mount, the tyres will hit....
Bound too be other stuff. It is easy too get them too fit, just trying too show all options before you try and perhaps dhow some TECH too others that want too know :wink:

Theres is also body lift option, which I cant stand body lifts, so wont go into explaining them :mrgreen:

new2zukes · Post by **new2zukes** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:41 pm

thanks lilpig thats alot of info there. either way i have to do some stuffing around

but i will have to have a long hard think i thought it was just a case of sticking them under. and looks like im guna have to do a bit of reading up.

lilpigzuk · Post by **lilpigzuk** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:47 pm

sweet as, was at the same stage once too :mrgreen:

not sure if you can view these pages (without being a member) but if not, join up on outerlimits4x4.com. An absolute wealth of info (hope you have plenty of nights available for reading :lol:

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http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/vi ... hp?t=48714

Basically any mod done too an SJ is here, some awesome info - as always a bit of shit too wade through

Happy reading and learning.......

Rotazuk · Post by **Rotazuk** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:52 am

The shakle lift is an easy and cheep option . But you get what you pay for . The draw back is it rotates the diff a bit as only one end moves down and this stuffs up the castor ( well its that or one of the other wheel alinment settings ) . To counter that I have heard of tappered shims being put under the spring perches . Also with a zuk they start to hang down alot at the front .

Not bagging it thou and I think 2 inch longer is fine ( castor wise ) and its a cheep start , so to speak .

Chris

HedgeBoar · Post by **HedgeBoar** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:55 am

IMO the easyest & cheapest option is just a 50mm body lift. This is what mine has with 31" maxxis trepadors and standard suspension - I needed to do a little bashing around the rear of the front wheel arch, but nothing too brutal. Still rubs a little when twisted right up (in the front, rear is fine), but just smooth out the areas where rubbing and its fine - if you're tyres don't rub, they're not big enough!

Clint · Post by **Clint** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:14 am

It's also worth pointing out that the reduction in caster will make the Zuk more wandery on the road, and isn't good for your approach angle. I had 50mm longer shackles on my 413 for a while, it wasn't too bad but I got taller springs for the front eventually which was better.

Cheers
Clint

new2zukes · Post by **new2zukes** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:30 pm

thanks all think i might end up with a body lift in the end

do you no where i can get the urathan or rubber for the blocks, i was goin to get a body lift done but i bought some 29"tires but now i want to go bigger for the sand as 29" simex's are pathetic in the sand u just dig your own grave. and il have a gd read of that website thanks lilpig. cheers all its a gr8 help