Hi Guys
Here are the rules for the 2008 Mainland Winch Challenge, these are only the start as we are just beginning a serries and a lot of trucks are just being built now, so rather than scare them off it was decided to start small and build up.
Happy reading.
Mainland Winch Challenge 2008 Rules
Mainland Winch Challenge Rules
Mainland Winch Challenge Rules
Last edited by 4wdRick on Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:37 am, edited 1 time in total.
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thanks for that, roll on the takatimus event
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Haven't quite figured out why so much fuss has been made about developing a set of rules for the SI when all that's been done really, is that the rules developed over eight years (from a basic Australian set) by the winch challenge team from the Auckland 4WD Club and then 4x4 Challenges NZ club have been plagiarised. Ok some additional bits have been added to give a local flavour and some attempt is being made to define a rollcage for a single competition type of event, but why bother?
Why did you not just adopt the existing rules and write some supplementary rules to fit local circumstances in the same way as other organisers usually do?
An offer was made by 4x4 Challenges NZ to have someone attend the SI rules meeting to outline reasons for the present rules and to assist with working out how to accommodate any local SI requirements in the existing material. We were advised that such a presence would cause a walk-out by some of those attending. This is sport and recreation, not religion!
So what we now have are two nearly identical sets of rules in a competition that is gradually growing in popularity but will potentially disadvantage some competitors because the technical requirements differ slightly and they will not be able to compete in both unless they upgrade to a level that experience has shown is needed.
Initially competitors will always go for the least expensive and easiest options for themselves but the fact is that they've no more worries when they're dead. It's those who are left to explain, who are the victims. Every safety related rule has been upgraded because of input from experienced competitors who have seen very good reasons for their submitting those rule upgrades.
Ah well, you can lead a horse to water..... good luck. This is my personal opinion and not that of 4x4 Challenges NZ Inc.
Peter Vahry
Why did you not just adopt the existing rules and write some supplementary rules to fit local circumstances in the same way as other organisers usually do?
An offer was made by 4x4 Challenges NZ to have someone attend the SI rules meeting to outline reasons for the present rules and to assist with working out how to accommodate any local SI requirements in the existing material. We were advised that such a presence would cause a walk-out by some of those attending. This is sport and recreation, not religion!
So what we now have are two nearly identical sets of rules in a competition that is gradually growing in popularity but will potentially disadvantage some competitors because the technical requirements differ slightly and they will not be able to compete in both unless they upgrade to a level that experience has shown is needed.
Initially competitors will always go for the least expensive and easiest options for themselves but the fact is that they've no more worries when they're dead. It's those who are left to explain, who are the victims. Every safety related rule has been upgraded because of input from experienced competitors who have seen very good reasons for their submitting those rule upgrades.
Ah well, you can lead a horse to water..... good luck. This is my personal opinion and not that of 4x4 Challenges NZ Inc.
Peter Vahry
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Pete
6 regions were represented at the meeting,(Marlbrough, Canterbury, South Canterbury, Otago, Centeral Otago and Southland) and it was decided (after a hell of a lot of discussion) that as we are just starting to get under way that a simpler set of rules would be more benifical to the growth of the sport, and more rules being introduced next year, and more the year after, and more the year after, and more the year after, and more the year after, and more the year after.............. you get the idea.
To try and keep some consistently between the meetings, Bruce Hughes will check the courses the day before.
Rick
6 regions were represented at the meeting,(Marlbrough, Canterbury, South Canterbury, Otago, Centeral Otago and Southland) and it was decided (after a hell of a lot of discussion) that as we are just starting to get under way that a simpler set of rules would be more benifical to the growth of the sport, and more rules being introduced next year, and more the year after, and more the year after, and more the year after, and more the year after, and more the year after.............. you get the idea.
To try and keep some consistently between the meetings, Bruce Hughes will check the courses the day before.
Rick
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when you say bruce will check the courses the day before, what does that entail? will he be walking them, or driving them, and if he is driving them, what will he be in, his comp truck????
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hi guys,
first up well done on the si rules, yes as you have stated they are a start and are are a work in progress, there are many loopholes for the unscruplious contestant but as long as you retain the rule that the event orginser has right of refusal for any entry it is still controlable.
i can see peters frustration as the ni has allready been through this evolution and the trucks and drivers have evolved during this period of time, the south in the meantime has been developing and evolving the sport in there area and i can see the orginisers point of view of trying to nurture the sport and to keep it cost effective for the average 4x4r good on ya!!
as with any motor sport, eventually the more dollars you spend the further you can get up the ladder untill you run out of skill to control the dollars spent verses the capibalitys of the person behind the wheel. this has been reconised by event orginisers in both islands hence the clubmans class. fortunatley or unfortunatley it is going to take time for the sport to get cohesion between the islands, the more we can get trucks to cross the ditch either way and compete against each other the better off the sport will become. do we need to run comps in conjunction with the likes of oranz so as to get great discounts for bulk shipping? do we need to secure a national sponsor to support a national series? what is the answer? i take my hat off to bruce huges and donald preston for bringing the south to the north, how about a reciprocal visit ni guys? looking at the rules the ni should be way ahead... but are they???
at last we have discussion nationwide and can pool our experiance to create a great nz series in the near future, it will however take time and communication to get to that point, weather or not you approve of 4x4 challenges it is an already established identity with web and other based communications dedicated to the 4x4 winch challenge style event, so join up make your point known, and if theres more members in the south and thats where a national series is going to be held .. so be it!!!
i myself am not a member of 4x4 challenges as yet but i do see the logic and the passion behind those involved and untill we can get a true national body or even national spirit amongst us we will always be disjointed and fighting each other.
imagine in the future a series contested between the tri nations??? or even just those bloody aussies!
i await your ideas, you may want to make a new thread though...
first up well done on the si rules, yes as you have stated they are a start and are are a work in progress, there are many loopholes for the unscruplious contestant but as long as you retain the rule that the event orginser has right of refusal for any entry it is still controlable.
i can see peters frustration as the ni has allready been through this evolution and the trucks and drivers have evolved during this period of time, the south in the meantime has been developing and evolving the sport in there area and i can see the orginisers point of view of trying to nurture the sport and to keep it cost effective for the average 4x4r good on ya!!
as with any motor sport, eventually the more dollars you spend the further you can get up the ladder untill you run out of skill to control the dollars spent verses the capibalitys of the person behind the wheel. this has been reconised by event orginisers in both islands hence the clubmans class. fortunatley or unfortunatley it is going to take time for the sport to get cohesion between the islands, the more we can get trucks to cross the ditch either way and compete against each other the better off the sport will become. do we need to run comps in conjunction with the likes of oranz so as to get great discounts for bulk shipping? do we need to secure a national sponsor to support a national series? what is the answer? i take my hat off to bruce huges and donald preston for bringing the south to the north, how about a reciprocal visit ni guys? looking at the rules the ni should be way ahead... but are they???
at last we have discussion nationwide and can pool our experiance to create a great nz series in the near future, it will however take time and communication to get to that point, weather or not you approve of 4x4 challenges it is an already established identity with web and other based communications dedicated to the 4x4 winch challenge style event, so join up make your point known, and if theres more members in the south and thats where a national series is going to be held .. so be it!!!
i myself am not a member of 4x4 challenges as yet but i do see the logic and the passion behind those involved and untill we can get a true national body or even national spirit amongst us we will always be disjointed and fighting each other.
imagine in the future a series contested between the tri nations??? or even just those bloody aussies!
i await your ideas, you may want to make a new thread though...
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The rules for NI v's SI have a lot of similarities. I think it is great that the rules for NZ winch challenge events are so close, obviously as a competitor it would be better if one set of rules covered both islands. I know a lot of time and effort has been put in by a lot of people making the various rules, I don't know what effort has been made so far to make a single set of rules for NZ. Winch challenges need the single body focus to develop the sport, the media interest and the potential sponsorship. I for one would love to head south to compete. Donald and Bruce have come north and shown the NI challengers a thing or two, with a single set of rules maybe more challengers will travel across the strait in both directions.
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With regard to a concession for the Cook Strait, the NZFWDA has an arrangement in place with Bluebridge Ferries that equals those of other groups like ORANZ.
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PeterVahry wrote:With regard to a concession for the Cook Strait, the NZFWDA has an arrangement in place with Bluebridge Ferries that equals those of other groups like ORANZ.
Peter
Can you tell us more please Peter, would have been nice to have known about this when Mike and I headed north on the ORE Rallywoods trip in Jan.
I came back on the truckers BBridge ferry. Was damn good, as I walked around I found about 20 free cabins to sleep in. Spoiled for choice
Only prob was they had no doors - wonder why 
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swampa wrote:when you say bruce will check the courses the day before, what does that entail? will he be walking them, or driving them, and if he is driving them, what will he be in, his comp truck????
He will both walk and be driven by the hosting club officials, driving the tracks completely would probably take all day.
Bruce (with his wealth of experience) is doing this to try and keep some consistency between the rounds, a very tough job, safety will rule and some courses may have to be adjusted to suit, personally my hat is off to him.
Rick
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I spent yesterday afternoon looking at the tracks that will be used for the Top of the South competition this year. They have some great country and it is going to be a very good competition. The current organisation they have done for the comp is better than most of the ones I've been to.
As to the rules. 4x4 Challenges rules are a must for a competition like we have in the NI series. What I saw with the track construction etc shows that the full safety rules we use aren't really needed for how they are setting the tracks, YET. BUT that is assuming the trucks aren't as modified as what we race in the NI series. They are very careful about taking the roll over risk out. Where in the NI we are happy to say, "you stuff up you roll", they are marking tracks so even a mupett "Should" be safe. This is not saying the tracks are not tough and challenging, because they are, just different to what we in the north are use to. There is also a lot more focus on the Clubman type truck with tough bit thown in for the others. We are doing it the opposite so that changes focus as well.
It appears that the tracks I saw are more about technique, rocks and winching. Obviously the NI tracks are becoming more about speed, mud and winching. Not much of a difference but makes for a very differently setup truck. I know for a fact I'd have to put different springs in to be about to do there tracks effectively ie fast. I'd probably look at lifting the truck higher as well.
I think that the SI organisers can save themselves a lot of hassle and effort by just using the 4x4 Challenges rules, and I think putting rollcage specs in their rules is a big step and hope they have covered themselves by getting engineers and lawyers to look at what they have done. An other reason we have a choice of 4 rules that are set by others. I think the rules will get closer and closer but it will take people pushing the boudaries of truck design to really force the safty rules to come in.
So the Mainland series is going to be really very good and great for the sport. I for one are really really keen to go down there and race and I hope they don't bring in any rules that restrict a truck built to 4x4 Chalenges rules racing.
As to the rules. 4x4 Challenges rules are a must for a competition like we have in the NI series. What I saw with the track construction etc shows that the full safety rules we use aren't really needed for how they are setting the tracks, YET. BUT that is assuming the trucks aren't as modified as what we race in the NI series. They are very careful about taking the roll over risk out. Where in the NI we are happy to say, "you stuff up you roll", they are marking tracks so even a mupett "Should" be safe. This is not saying the tracks are not tough and challenging, because they are, just different to what we in the north are use to. There is also a lot more focus on the Clubman type truck with tough bit thown in for the others. We are doing it the opposite so that changes focus as well.
It appears that the tracks I saw are more about technique, rocks and winching. Obviously the NI tracks are becoming more about speed, mud and winching. Not much of a difference but makes for a very differently setup truck. I know for a fact I'd have to put different springs in to be about to do there tracks effectively ie fast. I'd probably look at lifting the truck higher as well.
I think that the SI organisers can save themselves a lot of hassle and effort by just using the 4x4 Challenges rules, and I think putting rollcage specs in their rules is a big step and hope they have covered themselves by getting engineers and lawyers to look at what they have done. An other reason we have a choice of 4 rules that are set by others. I think the rules will get closer and closer but it will take people pushing the boudaries of truck design to really force the safty rules to come in.
So the Mainland series is going to be really very good and great for the sport. I for one are really really keen to go down there and race and I hope they don't bring in any rules that restrict a truck built to 4x4 Chalenges rules racing.
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With regard to the Bluebridge Ferries concession to NZFWDFA members, the information is on the NZFWDA website and can be found under the 'What's Hot' on the home page.
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I have read the above opinions about the Mainland Winch Challenges formation with some interest.
For the record, the February 2nd meeting was organised to gauge the interest in 4x4 winch challenges in the South Island, as some people may not be aware, there were 5 very successfull Winch Challenges held in the South Island last year (07). As a result of these events a group of like minded 4x4er's set a date and put the word around (thanks very much to Colin Rees)
The meeting was attended by representatives from 6 South Island Regions and 22 persons in all. All regions were given the floor at the start to express there desires and motivation for attending. The overwhelming factor from everybody was the growth of the sport by making it attractive and fair for everybody. The work we had ahead of us was to formulate a competition/series to achieve that end.
During the first part of the meeting we set up a "working document" for the rules, with the emphisis being on developing rules for this years competition. You can imagine the difficuilt in getting 22 people, with their own strong opinions, to agree on one set of rules. The rules developed by 4x4 Challenges NZ were discussed at lenght during this process and some of them have been adopted. I am proud to say that a working document was agreed to by all parties and this is the single strongest testiment to the commitment of a successfull Winch Challenges Series by those who attended.
The continuation of 2 classes, Clubman & Open, was unanimous with a lot of interest in creating a third class, "OUTLAW" next year (watch this space). Spec's for both classes have been sorted with Roll cages, Tire sizes and Winch rope being the major differences.
During the middle part of the meeting we had a presentation from Invesure Group, producers of the "Suzuki Extreme 4x4". The information that Helena presented to us surprised alot and filled others with hope, but generally gave us an insight into the world of TV and the hoops you are required to go through to get fringe sport on TV. Congrates to Helena and her team for what she has done for Four Wheel Driving in NZ, keep it up and you have our support.
The last part of the meeting dealt with the format for the 08 Winch Challenge Series, 6 events have been set in place with the first on the 14th - 15th March in Takatimu, Southland. There will be an overall series Champion and that Champion will be awarded the race number NZ1 (Winch Challenge) and entitle to defend that manlte the following year.
We also elected Officers of the organisation and a steering commitee, I am Honoured to have been voted President with Scott Gorrie as Secretary/Treasurer. These are exciting times for Winch Challenges New Zealand wide and the continuation of the sport, but we can only be judged by our achievements of this coming year. (The real Challenge)
A note for all you knockers out there, We only have the good of the sport at heart, this is for everybody to particate in, Not just NORTH ISLANDERS v SOUTH ISLANDERS. Stand up and be counted. 22 people did on the 2 Feb 08.
On a personal note; I am passionate about four wheel driving and in particular Winch Challenges, I would like to see the sport develop and become more accessable to a wider range of 4x4ers. In order to achieve this the entry level needs to be affordable and attainable to all comers. Sure the big boys can go spend huge amounts of money and time and compete against other big boys, but the sport is only going to continue if we encourage others to start competing.
I am sure this year will develop into a interesting competition, but I hope it is not between the North Island organisers and Mainland Winch Challenges. I welcome any enquiries Please Call Me on 021 942 786.
Regards Bruce Perry
For the record, the February 2nd meeting was organised to gauge the interest in 4x4 winch challenges in the South Island, as some people may not be aware, there were 5 very successfull Winch Challenges held in the South Island last year (07). As a result of these events a group of like minded 4x4er's set a date and put the word around (thanks very much to Colin Rees)
The meeting was attended by representatives from 6 South Island Regions and 22 persons in all. All regions were given the floor at the start to express there desires and motivation for attending. The overwhelming factor from everybody was the growth of the sport by making it attractive and fair for everybody. The work we had ahead of us was to formulate a competition/series to achieve that end.
During the first part of the meeting we set up a "working document" for the rules, with the emphisis being on developing rules for this years competition. You can imagine the difficuilt in getting 22 people, with their own strong opinions, to agree on one set of rules. The rules developed by 4x4 Challenges NZ were discussed at lenght during this process and some of them have been adopted. I am proud to say that a working document was agreed to by all parties and this is the single strongest testiment to the commitment of a successfull Winch Challenges Series by those who attended.
The continuation of 2 classes, Clubman & Open, was unanimous with a lot of interest in creating a third class, "OUTLAW" next year (watch this space). Spec's for both classes have been sorted with Roll cages, Tire sizes and Winch rope being the major differences.
During the middle part of the meeting we had a presentation from Invesure Group, producers of the "Suzuki Extreme 4x4". The information that Helena presented to us surprised alot and filled others with hope, but generally gave us an insight into the world of TV and the hoops you are required to go through to get fringe sport on TV. Congrates to Helena and her team for what she has done for Four Wheel Driving in NZ, keep it up and you have our support.
The last part of the meeting dealt with the format for the 08 Winch Challenge Series, 6 events have been set in place with the first on the 14th - 15th March in Takatimu, Southland. There will be an overall series Champion and that Champion will be awarded the race number NZ1 (Winch Challenge) and entitle to defend that manlte the following year.
We also elected Officers of the organisation and a steering commitee, I am Honoured to have been voted President with Scott Gorrie as Secretary/Treasurer. These are exciting times for Winch Challenges New Zealand wide and the continuation of the sport, but we can only be judged by our achievements of this coming year. (The real Challenge)
A note for all you knockers out there, We only have the good of the sport at heart, this is for everybody to particate in, Not just NORTH ISLANDERS v SOUTH ISLANDERS. Stand up and be counted. 22 people did on the 2 Feb 08.
On a personal note; I am passionate about four wheel driving and in particular Winch Challenges, I would like to see the sport develop and become more accessable to a wider range of 4x4ers. In order to achieve this the entry level needs to be affordable and attainable to all comers. Sure the big boys can go spend huge amounts of money and time and compete against other big boys, but the sport is only going to continue if we encourage others to start competing.
I am sure this year will develop into a interesting competition, but I hope it is not between the North Island organisers and Mainland Winch Challenges. I welcome any enquiries Please Call Me on 021 942 786.
Regards Bruce Perry
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Well Said Bruce 
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I was at that meeting and found it be a very successfull,got a lot done on rules and regs, lots of debating on what we will be done this year ,and fine tuning for next year,we need something like this in the south island,
well i am going to have good year haveing some fun!,they are good bunch lads made me feel very welcome
Vince...........
well i am going to have good year haveing some fun!,they are good bunch lads made me feel very welcome
Vince...........
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Well done-your rules dont look to bad.
Have you guys posted dates for your events yet?
Have you guys posted dates for your events yet?
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if someone in the know wants to get hold of me, for the takatimu event, is there any main sponsor yet?
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so dose the roll cage have to be mounted to the chassis or can you weld the cage to a plate then
weld it to the inside of the body?
weld it to the inside of the body?
toysuzi:(SJ413) 3Y E surf engnie, 6" coil kit (RRO). toy diffs (4.88 R&P) & toy hilux box and t-case.
ifs toy power steering, 6" Bushwacker fender flares (RRO). ect
ifs toy power steering, 6" Bushwacker fender flares (RRO). ect
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toysuzi wrote:so dose the roll cage have to be mounted to the chassis or can you weld the cage to a plate then
weld it to the inside of the body?
Its all in the rules. You can use either method.
D. Mountings
(a) The roll cage attachment points and surrounding area of the body or chassis shall be of a strong nature and shall be free of rust, corrosion and cracks.
(b) One of the following approved methods shall be used for the mounting of the roll cage.
1/.The twin lug connection (Fig. 4).
2/.The roll cage may be welded directly to the chassis and it is recommended that it be gusseted to a bearing area of 232 sq. cms - 150mm x150 mm.� (36 sq. in - 6� x 6�) per mount.
3/.The roll cage may be welded to a plate which in turn is bolted to the chassis to facilitate roll cage removal.� The plate shall have an area of 232 sq. cms - 150mm x150 mm. (36 sq. in - 6� x 6�) minimum, a thickness of 5 mm (3/16�), and be attached with a minimum of four bolts, cap screws or U-bolts.� A backing plate should be used where possible.
4/.When mounts are not part of the vehicle�s chassis and are mounted to body panels, there is to be a minimum area of 232 sq. cms - 150mm x150 mm (36 sq. in - 6� x 6�) per mount of 5mm (3/16�) plate and of the same shape (silhouette) as the mounting plate shall be attached, so as to sandwich the body panel, with a minimum of four bolts or cap screws.
5/.Any rubber mount used in the roll cage design shall be enclosed by a steel case to prevent tearing of the mount and possible roll cage separation.
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so as those rules no one from up north can run as the roll cage dose not mount to the chassis even with a full cage
and we can not run up north as it is not up to MotorsportNZ, ORANZ, NZFWDA or CCDA regulations
also all the circuit racing trucks are separate from the chassis
as seen in crash at Pukekohe a few years back
around the top corner and went straight in to the wall body came off chassis rolled a couple of times
and then walked away
heard rumours that it may be changing so is it
and we can not run up north as it is not up to MotorsportNZ, ORANZ, NZFWDA or CCDA regulations
also all the circuit racing trucks are separate from the chassis
as seen in crash at Pukekohe a few years back
around the top corner and went straight in to the wall body came off chassis rolled a couple of times
and then walked away
heard rumours that it may be changing so is it
toysuzi:(SJ413) 3Y E surf engnie, 6" coil kit (RRO). toy diffs (4.88 R&P) & toy hilux box and t-case.
ifs toy power steering, 6" Bushwacker fender flares (RRO). ect
ifs toy power steering, 6" Bushwacker fender flares (RRO). ect
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Yes you can mount to a plate as it says in the rules, No1.
Try reading them first, it is all explained in them.
http://www.4wdaccessories.co.nz/competitions/Mainland%20Winch%20Challenge%20Competition%20Rules.htm
They are modified ORANZ rules.
Rick
Try reading them first, it is all explained in them.
http://www.4wdaccessories.co.nz/competitions/Mainland%20Winch%20Challenge%20Competition%20Rules.htm
They are modified ORANZ rules.
Rick
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Those rules are also pretty much the same as NZFWDA rules as well- bar the pipesize.
There should be no reason why you cant build a cage to run in both islands.
Also you dont have to chassis mount for NZFWDA rules.
Cheers
There should be no reason why you cant build a cage to run in both islands.
Also you dont have to chassis mount for NZFWDA rules.
Cheers
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toysuzi wrote:so as those rules no one from up north can run as the roll cage dose not mount to the chassis even with a full cage
and we can not run up north as it is not up to MotorsportNZ, ORANZ, NZFWDA or CCDA regulations
also all the circuit racing trucks are separate from the chassis
as seen in crash at Pukekohe a few years back
around the top corner and went straight in to the wall body came off chassis rolled a couple of times
and then walked away
heard rumours that it may be changing so is it
Seriously man, read the rules!
As I cut and pasted for you, you can either:
1) Weld the cage to a plate that has been welded to the chassis, or
2) Weld the cage to a plate that is bolted to the chassis, or
3) Weld the cage to a plate that is bolted to the body via sandwich plates.
If you want to run in the North Island comps, then build a cage using either of the above methods with the corect pipe sizes, and add in the two front a-pillar hoops to make it a 6-point.
Rick, this is a question for you.
The problem I see with the SI cage rules, relates to body mounted cages. The only allowable method is via bolted sandwich plates, as it excludes any MANZ cage which allows welding the cage to plates (of specific size and thickness) that are welded to the body, without the need for sandwich plate.
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Could i make one suggestion. It states that under rule 9(e)UHF Radio must be at least 1 watt Channel 22 will be the Safety Channel. Could you please change this to another channel as Uniden radios now cant transmit on this channel.
Refer to this website for one example. http://www.uniden.co.nz/NEW_ZEALAND/p_uh095sx_index.asp At the very bottom it says ^ Please note CH 22 & 23 are used for telemetry and telecommand applications, voice communications are not permitted on these channels and transmission is inhibited.
Otherwise looks good.
Refer to this website for one example. http://www.uniden.co.nz/NEW_ZEALAND/p_uh095sx_index.asp At the very bottom it says ^ Please note CH 22 & 23 are used for telemetry and telecommand applications, voice communications are not permitted on these channels and transmission is inhibited.
Otherwise looks good.
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The Takitimu event was a great day & night, full congrats to Karen, Al and the team. The event was fast and exciting, Bruce Hughes drove very well all day and was the deserved winner, I dare to suggest that he & Jared are the best Winch Challenge team in NZ at the moment. Great to see Donald Preston, Roger Mckay and Sam Baddley there competing. These guys are certianly putting the heat on Bruce.
My personally favorite of the event was Roger Hackett (local Boy) taking out third in the open class, very well done. The support from all over the south was fanatastic, a very big thank you to all those who attended and supported this Winch Challenge.
Before prize giving, the Mainland Winch Challenge committe got together. The general feel is that we have started a good formatt but we need to continue to learn from the mistakes made by others. Whilst the "Rules" are there to set a standard & templates for our events, there is a lot of scope for the individual clubs hosting events to pave their own way.
One exciting development for future events this year is the introduction of the "Outlaw" class. This will be run as an exhibition class for the remaining 5 Winch Challenges. (Host Clubs to confirm) This is designed to encourage all those 4wder's out there who havn't got a compliant truck to come along and join in the action. Safety rules for this class can be obtained from the event organisers.
NOTE: The Shotover 4wd Club Winch Challenge will be held in Queenstown on the 8th & 9th August 2008. Clubman & Open classes along with the Outlaw class as an exhibition class. All enquiries to me or our website http://www.shotover4wdclub.co.nz
Regards
Bruce Perry
President
Mainland Winch Challenge (inc)
My personally favorite of the event was Roger Hackett (local Boy) taking out third in the open class, very well done. The support from all over the south was fanatastic, a very big thank you to all those who attended and supported this Winch Challenge.
Before prize giving, the Mainland Winch Challenge committe got together. The general feel is that we have started a good formatt but we need to continue to learn from the mistakes made by others. Whilst the "Rules" are there to set a standard & templates for our events, there is a lot of scope for the individual clubs hosting events to pave their own way.
One exciting development for future events this year is the introduction of the "Outlaw" class. This will be run as an exhibition class for the remaining 5 Winch Challenges. (Host Clubs to confirm) This is designed to encourage all those 4wder's out there who havn't got a compliant truck to come along and join in the action. Safety rules for this class can be obtained from the event organisers.
NOTE: The Shotover 4wd Club Winch Challenge will be held in Queenstown on the 8th & 9th August 2008. Clubman & Open classes along with the Outlaw class as an exhibition class. All enquiries to me or our website http://www.shotover4wdclub.co.nz
Regards
Bruce Perry
President
Mainland Winch Challenge (inc)
Re: Mainland Winch Challenge Rules
Quote from Didymo...The Takitimu event was a great day & night, full congrats to Karen, Al and the team. The event was fast and exciting, Bruce Hughes drove very well all day and was the deserved winner, I dare to suggest that he & Jared are the best Winch Challenge team in NZ at the moment.
Just to set the cat amuogst the pigeons i think there would be a couple of teams up north that would have something to say about that i:e Owen/Dave and Justin/Mike says he ducking for cover
Just to set the cat amuogst the pigeons i think there would be a couple of teams up north that would have something to say about that i:e Owen/Dave and Justin/Mike says he ducking for cover
Re: Mainland Winch Challenge Rules
i think there would be a couple of teams up north that would have something to say about that i:e Owen/Dave and Justin/Mike says he ducking for cover
I always throught it was because you North islanders couldn't play fair and didn't like been beaten by the South.....!!
I always throught it was because you North islanders couldn't play fair and didn't like been beaten by the South.....!!
Re: Mainland Winch Challenge Rules
Why don't you guys just build a bridge and get over it
Re: Mainland Winch Challenge Rules
Ralfie wrote:I always throught it was because you North islanders couldn't play fair and didn't like been beaten by the South.....!!
Easy Ralfie. You comment shows your own ignorance on the subject. You would want to be very sure of your facts before making statements like that, or in this case infering such things.