g13b gti wiring help

[413leon]

have finally got the g13b sitting in my sj413 but progress has come to a hault due to my lack of wiring knowledge i have a whole barina gt loom and computer and was wondering how much this will cost if i take it to the sparky??? or is there anyone who knows how to do it and wants to make some cash . I am in waihi

[lilpigzuk]

how much you got too spend
Im sure he will pipe up soon, He wired my POS, and its still going. See if he jumps on, has another gti too wire of mine

[413leon]

a few hundred, is it a big job? im guessing youre talkink about rotazuk

[Rotazuk]

Yeh I never did hunt out those wiring diagrams . What year is the engine from ? Pre or post 89 . Mk 2 GTI's the ignition was controled buy the computer , post 89 .
If its post 89 there are diagrams on http://www.suzukiinfo.com/ . If its pre I will have to dig out the photo copy I have here somewhere .

I thought you mate was going to wire it up ?

Its not too hard to sort out . The best way to do it is cut all the tape off the loom , the black stuff so all the wires are exposed . You will need to reshape or shorten the loom anyway so you will have to rewind it . Then you will be able to start removing stuff . Basically tape the computer plug down and trace all its wires , when it goes to a dead end see what the conector is and trace back the other wires in the conector ( they will run to things like the fuel pump etc ) .

One thing to think about is the alt , the gti has a ribbed belt so you can't use a 413 one . If you use the gti one they are wired differently to a 413 one ( only two wires and they swap them , go figure ) , I would get a vitara one they are wired the same as a 413 and will be easier to find in the future .

I am a little busy at the moment and have no shed space to wire up a car but if you strip off all the black tape I could possibly strip down the loom to the wires needed to run the engine . You would have to post the loom up and tell me what the ecu number is so I can check I have one here as I would want to test the loom before I sent it back . Then you or a local sparky could wire it into the car .

I am away all April so do not have a lot of time , but it should only take a couple of nights to sort it out . Take a bit to remember it all .

Either way let me know if its a mk1 or mk 2 engine and I will try and dig out the wiring diagram for it if its a mk1 . I will scan and e-mail it on monday .


Cheers
Chris

[413leon]

Thanks for the info the engine is a mk 1 and my good mate is meant to be wiring it but im getting sick of waiting so i decided to make this post.

I will try and track down a vitara alt aswell.

very keen to send the loom up so you can sort through and get rid of the wires i dont need and then just get the sparky to do the rest. Name a price for the job and i could send it up in the next day or so.

cheers leon

[Rotazuk]

How much of a hurry are you in and what would you want done to the loom ? probably not able to do anything till later next week , trying to get my zuk back together .

To get a tidy job the loom needs to be cut and spliced back together , as it heads off into the engine bay from both sides of the car . This is best done on the vehicle when you know were the ecu will sit etc . The other option is I just shorten the loom to the shortest wire and any extra wire you have you will just have to tuck away . The bad news is the crimps I use cost $1:50 each , that soon adds up .

What I could do is just strip the loom out to the esentual wires , label the ones you need to conect to the 413 loom and you can cut and splice the loom when you have it sitting on the truck . You will see what has to come out when you get it back , mid loom there is a great big conector and half the wires get cut out of it , it needs to go . This would be the best option I think .

As I said thou you need to pull off all the loom tape , the black stuff ( crappy job and it takes time ). Everynow and then you wil come across a bit just wrapped around the loom these can stay , they will hold it roughly in place . Also leave any rubber grommets on there , you will feed all the wires through one in the firewall .

If you want to send it up let me know as I will send you my addy .

Chris

[413leon]

Not in a hurry but really want to get it running as you said strip the loom out to the esentual wires , label the ones I need to conect to the 413 loom.
I think thats the best option.
I will strip all the unneeded tape off tonight, so if you could send your addy to me I could send it on friday and you can do it when you have the time as long as it doesent take weeks lol

cheers leon

[Rotazuk]

Got your loom and ecu today . Currently spread out around the lounge . A little ticked off as I have just spent the last couple of hours taking all the black tape off the loom Grrr , I have a million other things I need to get done , picking tape off your loom is not one of them . Rant over .

Anyway the ecu and loom are from a car without the EGR equipment , ie NZ new I would say . If you have the EGR you may as well block it off . I will strip the loom to EFI stuff only , meaning things like oil pressure and alt wiring will be existing 413 stuff . Most of the sensors are in the same place except for the water temp . Also are you running elec fans ? The last temp sensor on the rear of the engine on the water output is a switch for fans , so you can run them in auto . I will try and locate the plug and label it for you .

Issue could be the points as this is not controled by ecu , again will see what I can find from the loom but can't find the complete wiring diagram , only the ecu part . The loom includes the main relay and the fual pump relay , so you are sweet there . Have you sorted an electric fuel pump ?

Well do a bit more tomorrow night and see how it looks then

Cheers
Chris

[413leon]

I didnt realise all the loom that i left with tape on was needed and was just going to get you to label it for me sorry my mistake

I will just go with the original fan for now but if you could label the wire so if i decide to run an electric one later i know where it goes thanks

yes i have the gti fuelpump that i will put in soon

sorry for the tape mix up let me know how you get on

thanks
leon

[Rotazuk]

Only about 1/2 hour done tonight . The injector harness is not here
I don't need it but you will . The four injectors and the oil pressure wire mearge at the left ( rear in your case ) of the engine and go into two plugs , one 6 pin and one 3 pin triangle . Make sure its on the engine .

Chris

[413leon]

hi rotazuk I have the injectors in the shed , will make sure those wires are there tomorrow.

As for the ugly hole in the firewall will it be hard to get a warrant if I weld a box round it to fill the hole?

It sill has a warrant and woud like to keep it warranted , does anyone have a g13b twincam gti in their roadlegal zuk
have seen a few in trial trucks eg lilpigzuk but none with wof???

[Rotazuk]

Hi
This loom is done . If you can pass on a good day time delivery address I will get it away tomorrow ( thursday so you have it for the weekend . Will then pm you once you get it back and look at it . It just looks bad . Only 6 wires to conect to make it run , easy . Will be able to talk you through wiring it up , bit by bit .

Cheers
Chris


Grrrr . your email got caught up in the spam filter . Sorted . Is the addy you send god for a day time delivery . Yes or no , if no e mail a day time one to the e-mail I gave you .