Water Proofing

Dutch89 · Post by **Dutch89** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:34 pm

Has anyone got any tips on how to water prrof Dizzy cap etc in a Zuk - i thought about using a special grease but i dont think that will go well with the high voltage.

Cheers Hans

muskie · Post by **muskie** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:09 pm

washing up type rubber glove over the top with leads coming out of fingers and cable ties, just an idea that i have used in the past..

Dutch89 · Post by **Dutch89** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:22 pm

Thanks, and a very cool idea - i may also try cloves that doctors use because they come in sizes that may fit better!

Cheers

SMOKEY · Post by **SMOKEY** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:55 pm

Dutch, as your name suggests, I thought you where the experts at keeping water out :wink:

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If you totally seal a distributor you will have trouble with condensation, so you need to fit a breather. On my Landcruiser I drilled and tapped a fitting into the alloy base of the distributor, to this I fitted a brass nut and olive with a nylon pipe pushed through the firewall so it is sitting behind the dash. In the top of the dis; cap I drilled a hole and aroldited(spelling) a nylon tube that goes to the Inlet side of the air cleaner, this gives me a through flow ventilation effect. Make sure all other holes are blocked off in the distributor, seal around the base of the cap and the area the cap sits on with Loctite 515 or518, (I find the loctite is easier to remove cap again compared to RTV, silicon) once you have let the loctite cure you can do a vacuum check by blocking off the bottom hose and suck on the top hose to see if you have any leaks. For you HT leads and caps I got these for a jet ski and have no troubles, a small amount of sealant on you coil HT lead and if like mine will run totally submersed.

NOW HOW DO WE STOP THE WATER FROM FLOODING THE LAND :?:

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FITZY.

Dutch89 · Post by **Dutch89** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:25 pm

Very cool what you have done - i will give it a go myself. Never thought about going to a marine shop LOL.

I think a few smart Dutch people have now bought house boats cos i think the water will win in the end - some people in Holland live 6 or 7 meters below sea level and the sea seems to be rising. Loosing battle, but i guess the guys and girls with well set up 4x4's will be ok!

Cheers

Dr_PC · Post by **Dr_PC** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:51 pm

Dutch89 wrote:Very cool what you have done - i will give it a go myself. Never thought about going to a marine shop LOL.

I think a few smart Dutch people have now bought house boats cos i think the water will win in the end - some people in Holland live 6 or 7 meters below sea level and the sea seems to be rising. Loosing battle, but i guess the guys and girls with well set up 4x4's will be ok!

Cheers

Spray everything with lanocoat, do my buggy with it about every 12 - 14 months and dont have problems. take the left overs on your bush runs help you sneak up on the sheep........ So I've been told :roll:

spanky · Post by **spanky** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:00 pm

Dr_PC wrote:
Dutch89 wrote:Very cool what you have done - i will give it a go myself. Never thought about going to a marine shop LOL.

I think a few smart Dutch people have now bought house boats cos i think the water will win in the end - some people in Holland live 6 or 7 meters below sea level and the sea seems to be rising. Loosing battle, but i guess the guys and girls with well set up 4x4's will be ok!

Cheers

Spray everything with lanocoat, do my buggy with it about every 12 - 14 months and dont have problems. take the left overs on your bush runs help you sneak up on the sheep........ So I've been told

i suppose you have some velcro gloves and tall gumboots aswell ......just in case :shock:

zuky · Post by **zuky** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:48 pm

Dutch 89... Have you had problems with a stock Vitara distributer getting wet? I take to drowning mine in door latch deep water/mud on a regular basis and have never had any problems. Factory they would have to be one of the best set up vehicles for water protection around. With factory diff breathers... not to mention a pretty well sealed distributer.

It was a different story when I was running a toy 4-age that thing could smell water coming and it would stall. The five finger glove works well until you get water/condensation in there. If your vit one is getting wet enough to stall... either a) you've got some kind of crack, broken seal in there. or b) you spend to much time in water well over your bonnet.

Hugo

Bubba · Post by **Bubba** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:31 pm

I tried the glove trick on my Vitara and it worked for a wee while but then just filled up with condensation, pain in the ass.

I think it was Ryan who suggested the Lanolin spray so i am going to try that, if that fails it's the boys spiderman lunch box thats going in.

Dutch89 · Post by **Dutch89** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:19 pm

I'm not having any problems yet, i just thought i would try to do my best at sealing the dizzy. But as you said the Suzuki is set up pretty good std so i might hold off with doing to much at this stage. I may just seal the dizzy base and leads and see what happens next time i go play in the water.

Cheers

surf_tomo · Post by **surf_tomo** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:34 pm

Suzukis have std diff breathers? cool thats good to know.. I have just bought a 91 escudo in the weekend. stoaked with my purchase

Dutch89 · Post by **Dutch89** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:58 pm

Does the gearbox and transfer case have a breather as well, sort of hard to see if its still there!

Cheers

zuky · Post by **zuky** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:22 am

I don't think they do... on the vits there are defiantly none on a 413 or samy. I would worry about these long before the dizzy. Plus check where the fuel tank breather is, I had endless problems with my samy getting mud in the tank before I relocated this up to the front.

UBZ · Post by **UBZ** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:14 pm

zuky wrote:I don't think they do... on the vits there are defiantly none on a 413 or samy..

There is a breather on the top of my 413 transfer case and I'm pretty sure there is one on the gearbox as well.

Petemcc · Post by **Petemcc** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:08 pm

I put a breather on my dissy of my surf and used silicon gease on all the leads, works like a charm!!

Pete

zuky · Post by **zuky** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:24 pm

UBZ wrote:
zuky wrote:I don't think they do... on the vits there are defiantly none on a 413 or samy..

There is a breather on the top of my 413 transfer case and I'm pretty sure there is one on the gearbox as well.

Sorry didn't mean to say there are none. More what I was trying to say is that they aren't like the standard vit diff ones which run tubes up high.

If you spend time in the mud you need diff, transfer, gearbox and fuel breathers fitted with sealed tubes which muster in the engine bay or anywhere high out of the way. Otherwise once you submerse the factory breather cap. (Which is pretty low when you look at the diff) you will suck mud

Which leads to many more service intervals. Its bad enough putting a new set of rear brake shoes in after every run without worrying about how much water is in your diffs, transfer etc...

And my point was... by the time you car stops because the dizzy is wet, all of these will need attention.

lneil · Post by **lneil** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:30 pm

The Escudos do have transfer/gearbox breathers as well as diff' breathers.

The case breathers come up and meet just in front of the firewall towards the right (facing forward) side of the engine-bay. I capped both the diff and case breathers with cheap plastic inline fuel filters (Just ensure you get the flow direction right.)

pharcanal · Post by **pharcanal** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:27 pm

hi there
I swear by a product called SOFT SEAL .Made by crc i think.its used alot at sea .seals nuts bolts and electrical but still allows you to work on them at latter date .this is Not a resin it is an airasole . spray on let dry and repeat many times it builds up a wax type coating .. I have use at least 4 cans per on both my 4x4s covered all electrical cables joints relays. If it wire i sprayed it.one of my trucks is a diesl and the other is petrol . I take the both under water with no probs . In fact the glove box of 1 holds 10ltrs of water( yes we messured it just to see)..as i said do many coats & allow time between eachto dry.. Good luck

surf_tomo · Post by **surf_tomo** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:36 pm

pharcanal wrote:hi there
I swear by a product called SOFT SEAL .Made by crc i think.its used alot at sea .seals nuts bolts and electrical but still allows you to work on them at latter date .this is Not a resin it is an airasole . spray on let dry and repeat many times it builds up a wax type coating .. I have use at least 4 cans per on both my 4x4s covered all electrical cables joints relays. If it wire i sprayed it.one of my trucks is a diesl and the other is petrol . I take the both under water with no probs . In fact the glove box of 1 holds 10ltrs of water( yes we messured it just to see)..as i said do many coats & allow time between eachto dry.. Good luck

Nice one - sounds good. Is it an off the shelf item from the likes of supercheap or ripco??

cheers.

icekayak · Post by **icekayak** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:30 pm

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