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i think i need to go to south africa

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http://www.vottle.com/view.php?post=178205

what do you reckon go over there buy it then go on safari for a few weeks and ship it home :D :D
my 4wd is not a truck

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How do you even search South African classifieds???

Any why??? :? :?
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muddymatt wrote:How do you even search South African classifieds???

Any why??? :? :?


i have joined every g wagen forum i can find including one in south africa the big advantage with SA cars is they are RHD so much less hassle getting legal not that i can afford it

they guy wants 270000 rand did a currency conversion that works out to about $43000 bit out of my price range oh well
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What's the deal with private import now?

I know they've tightened up the rules to only allow Euro 4 diesels in (while allowing Euro 2 petrols, WTF?). But there must be a loophole for private vehicles. I.e living in a country like Aussie and wanting to bring your personal vehicles here with you.
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KiwiBacon wrote:What's the deal with private import now?

I know they've tightened up the rules to only allow Euro 4 diesels in (while allowing Euro 2 petrols, WTF?). But there must be a loophole for private vehicles. I.e living in a country like Aussie and wanting to bring your personal vehicles here with you.


Apparently theres a list of classic cars you can import but I haven't heard anything about other cars. Would be interesting to find out. Might be something similar to Australia's rules of owning it for a certain amount of time in the country of origin.
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I just heard of a guy with a 06 mustang. He went to the states and bought it as soon as he got there, used it for three months and then brought it back with him. Apparently you have to have owned it for three months (just the length of a visitor permit!) before you bring it over to avoid converting to RHD. But that doesn't shed much light on the rest of it.

Did talk to a guy who was importing the odd mustang for his collection from USA as a sideline to his own jap import business.
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fweddy wrote:I just heard of a guy with a 06 mustang. He went to the states and bought it as soon as he got there, used it for three months and then brought it back with him. Apparently you have to have owned it for three months (just the length of a visitor permit!) before you bring it over to avoid converting to RHD. But that doesn't shed much light on the rest of it.

Did talk to a guy who was importing the odd mustang for his collection from USA as a sideline to his own jap import business.



Really! I read somewhere that it RHD's weren't allowed at all now (To be registered if not already registered). There is so much conflicting information when it comes to any rules and regulations.

My flatmate has a RHD Celica and he can't get insurance anywhere for it at a non outragous price.
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Hmmm

This 'stang was at the local panelbeaters (who is also a mustang nut) who I would expect to know a bit about that sort of thin. I was there dropping dad's Prado round after it got driven into again! My mum called me up the other day and said she'd had an accident and I'd better bring my cruiser to do some towing. I towed the other old biddy's mazda demio away to a panel beaters (while mum did the steering for her) and changed the tyre on the Prado and Mum continued on to finish off her errand with a flare missing and some scrapes. Second time its got attacked by other cars, both times of the other cars got towed away while we drove the Prado away to get the cosmetics tidied up, and another tyre in this case.
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Mate at work brought his big big yank tank back with him from the states,doesnt need to convert it, but has to own it for a certain number of years (forget how many) if he sells it before this time he must convert to RHD beforehand
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fweddy wrote:Hmmm

This 'stang was at the local panelbeaters (who is also a mustang nut) who I would expect to know a bit about that sort of thin.


Yeah I'm not saying he's/your wrong at all man. I'm just saying how theres a lot of different information to rules these days. I guess what I heard about might be for cars already here that have been de registered it or has lapsed or something.
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if your yank tank is more than :) :) 20 years old you dont have to convert it but if less than that you can import it and drive it left hook yourself but if you sell it it must be converted to rhd (or something like that)
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Private import to NZ is a nightmare and requires brains, guts, determination, brute force, ignorance and patience in equal measure.
THe guys at this end have been great but they are working to a very high standard of rules and regs.
There are tails of 2 and 3 year old vehicles failing on structural integrity when tehy have never been crashed.

Most of the trim comes out for inspection.
More than likely you will need new seat belts and brake rotors, any accident repair will need an NZ repair cert, and any paint discoloration due to posible corrosion will probably get inspected by paint removal. There may be metal thickness tests and certainly an endoscope inspection of structural parts. All the information you need is on LTNZ website and is comprehensive enough if you wade through it. ( at least 50 pages) You will also need manufacturers certification from the manufacturers representative in NZ.

THe rules for 4WD and other vehicles are different, (4WD are determined by breakover, entry and departure angles as well as drive train) so some of the info on the 'Stangs may not be relevant.

If your vehicle is pre 1990 manufacture then the rules are slacker.

If you don't own the vehicle overseas for the minimum length of time you will probably pay import duty (gst) on it's NZ value, not what you paid for it, and if you are not a new migrant you may need to pay gst anyway. Migrants get one tax free vehicle each on arrival, but covenant not to sell it for two years.

I am not saying don't do it, but I recommend talking to an import certifier here before you commit to buying anything overseas. It has taken me close to three hundred hours of work and an undisclosed sum of dollars to get my vehicle through and all because of a repair to a parking shunt in the UK that was repaired at an Insurance recomended garage.
Enough ranting, just do your homework before you import
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