escudo front hub change

[Weemsy]

i want to change the front hubs on my v6 scud so i can get 15 inch wheels on, and the calipers, discs etc are too big.
does anyone know if it is a straight hub swap, or are there more (or less?) splines on the v6 drive shafts than the 1600 drive shafts, or are they bigger diameter etc?
looking at it, i think need the hub assembly, disc and caliper, just wondering if i need anything else?
also, are they a pain in the arse to do, or just a straight swap? any tricks to doing it?
one last thing, do samurai manual locking hubs fit a scud?
cheers
weemsy

[Heath]

cant you just change down to the 3 door calipers and rotors to get 15" rims on? Of course that then changes the brakes so it would need certifying.

[icekayak]

give shane @ te puke partsworld a call who specialise in suzuki wrecking, will dig up his number/email if you can't find it elsewhere...

He knows about this sort of stuff and will sell you the parts you need (or at least tell you if you want to find them elsewhere)... he may even buy/swap you for your old bits??

[Weemsy]

mine is the 3 door and the 16 inch wheels only just cover the calipers. ive been told the rotor centres are bigger on the v6's, meaning i have to change the hub, however that could be wrong?????? mine's a 95 facelift model if that makes any difference?

will get in touch with te puke parts world, he advertises on TM so may get his number through that???
thanks lads

[icekayak]

Te Puke PartsWorld

Location 19 Atuaroa Ave, Te Puke
Specialty General, Suzuki
Phone (07) 573 0160
Fax (07) 573 0163
Freephone 0800 100494
Email tpwsales@clear.net.nz

[Weemsy]

rang parts world this morning and they told me that the conversion cant be done??
he said the complete front axle/suspension set up was totally different and isnt inter-changeable to fit 15's.
ah well, any one have any 30/9.5/16 muddies they want to trade with some 31/10.5/15's?
cheers
weemsy

[Rotazuk]

Hmmm , I have heard of people doing it but it may be on the first generation escudo's . As the 5dr 16v had 16 inch wheels . Try looking on outerlimits in ausie .

Chris

[Heath]

What about machining the centre of the wheel out a little? or is it the caliper that is the problem also.

[al889]

Have a look at

http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=8855

Truck fixer has done this swap and it worked out well...

[Weemsy]

cheers for that, id been searching on here for ages and couldnt find a positive answer to it. ah well, now all is revealed i'll head down the wreckers tomorrow and see what we can find.

[truck-fixer]

Yeah its a piece of cake. I did the swap in one night. Just remember though that it is a modification of the factory vehicle so it will need to be certified to be 100% road legal. anymore questions just give me a yell.

[Weemsy]

cheers truck fixer but im selling the scudo!!
i decided it was going to cost me too much to do all the mods as well as bumpers, bars, lift kit etc. plus its a really tidy truck, seems a shame to wreck it!!!
im after a cheaper truck, preferably another suzuki, but anything considered!!!!
thanks again mate, really appreciate the offer.
weemsy

[truck-fixer]

cheers truck fixer but im selling the scudo!!
i decided it was going to cost me too much to do all the mods as well as bumpers, bars, lift kit etc.

Always will no matter what vehicle you have .

plus its a really tidy truck, seems a shame to wreck it!!!

You're not wrecking it. You're "IMPROVING" it.

[Weemsy]

haha, 'improving' is what i meant, just a typo.
as for the money, need a cheaper truck so the money left over can go towards 'improvements'.
plus, i could do with a 5 door escudo/vitara as i would like the extra space. my lady thinks for comfort , i think for a bag of straps, a jack, shovel, compressor....................
weemsy

[Weemsy]

hey truck fixer!!
i might change my mind on the escudo if it doesnt sell soon.
did you have any problems doing the strut top flip because of the brace across the top??
i have seen people say to enlarge the holes to alter the camber also, but that doesnt look too easy either. again because of that strut brace.
has anyone altered the camber by any other method, camber bolts, professional steering outfit etc etc????
cheers
weemsy

[surf_tomo]

Definitally stick with a Zuk of some sort
Any luck with the sale or will you keep yours? ,, good luck with the sale if its still on the market!

Tom.

[Passtime]

Yeah its a piece of cake. I did the swap in one night. Just remember though that it is a modification of the factory vehicle so it will need to be certified to be 100% road legal. anymore questions just give me a yell.

Can anyone answer this question. I am new to ORE. I have found out that the front disks off a 5 door 1600 are vented and 3 door are solid. My 3door v6 has vented disks. Should I be finding vented disks or would solid disks be OK?

[Weemsy]

hey tom.
after getting all prepped ready to lift the v6 at the weekend, and even bought a lsd rear diff for it, along comes a little old man and wants to buy it!!! good job the guy i was buying front dics/hubs/rotors/shafts/stubs the complete assembly ready to bolt on hasnt replied.
if it goes in the morning then il be looking for a 5dr 1600 i think. definately sticking with zook's, ive grown quite fond of them, especially seeing what some of the lads on here have done to theirs for very little money. very little money is a word im used to saying!! haha
if anyone knows of an early shape 1600 5dr going cheap (must be road legal and road worthy) then please let me know, it will be appreciated.
by the way.....8 valve efi or 16??
weemsy

[Passtime]

Does the hub change change the offset of the front wheels?

[Rotazuk]

The 5drs are all 16v , that I have seen . If you find an 8v one I would be susp of an engine swap .

Chris

[surf_tomo]

hey tom.
after getting all prepped ready to lift the v6 at the weekend, and even bought a lsd rear diff for it, along comes a little old man and wants to buy it!!! good job the guy i was buying front dics/hubs/rotors/shafts/stubs the complete assembly ready to bolt on hasnt replied.
if it goes in the morning then il be looking for a 5dr 1600 i think. definately sticking with zook's, ive grown quite fond of them, especially seeing what some of the lads on here have done to theirs for very little money. very little money is a word im used to saying!! haha
if anyone knows of an early shape 1600 5dr going cheap (must be road legal and road worthy) then please let me know, it will be appreciated.
by the way.....8 valve efi or 16??
weemsy

Sounds great! I like my 5 door for the space (would be hard pressed to fit a deer or 2 and all my and my mates hunting gear in a 3 door).
So you will be looking for something along the lines of this...
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 370588.htm
Quite a good price for the km's it has, and its a Auto. There is some debate about what valve - there are threads on here about this (somewhere lol)

Cheers, Tom.

[Weemsy]

yeah ive messaged him to see if he will meet me somewhere over the weekend but no reply as yet.
i was a bit gutted to see the little v6 go but out withe old and all that.
here we come new motor, its always good to get new wheels!!
cheers for the info about the 8v/16v stuff. good to know.
weemsy

[Weemsy]

hey surf tomo.......looks like im having that 5dr that you sent me the link to.
flying up on monday to get it, will be getting the lift springs and air shocks under it soon too!
will try to post a few pics when ive done my few mods to it. nothing too major i dont think, but then again me and a mate were talking last night about getting a blower of some kind on it (no, not my mrs) possibly a super charger??
will be pulling in the help of de-ranged i think!! haha

[surf_tomo]

hey surf tomo.......looks like im having that 5dr that you sent me the link to.
flying up on monday to get it, will be getting the lift springs and air shocks under it soon too!
will try to post a few pics when ive done my few mods to it. nothing too major i dont think, but then again me and a mate were talking last night about getting a blower of some kind on it (no, not my mrs) possibly a super charger??
will be pulling in the help of de-ranged i think!! haha

Great news Weemsy!! ,,I take it your v6 sold no worries? . Let me know how you get on modding the new one, its identical to mine except in the auto. Haven't herd about superchargers on one ..yet... sounds good. Im off to Auz on tomorrow for a week,, but will be in touch.

Cheers, Tom.

[Weemsy]

hey tom,
yeah the v6 sold with no worries to an old chap who wants it for getting him down the beach fishing and whitebaiting down the rivers, it will be getting an easy life from now on i reckon!!
will let you know about the new beast? when i get it.
should i be getting extractors for it? it seems the original manifold has problems on these??
have a good time with the sheila's buddy
steve

[lneil]

Yes, DEFINITELY put extractors on!

By the way, did your slippery diff go with the old 3-door, or did you keep it?

[Weemsy]

hey Ineil
nah, still got it. sold the v6 BEFORE i bought the slippery, but had made a promise to the guy and he had taken it out of his truck to meet me half way so i kept my promise.
buying another zook though . a 5 door 1600.
are you interested in buying the slippery? if it works out that i dont need it?

by the way......any other things that i should look out for, or mods that you recommend before i go buying things that i dont really need? ive already got the lift springs and longer rear shocks that i was going put on the v6, and i know about hooks front and rear. any other (money restricted!! ) ideas?
cheers
weemsy