I'm sticking a Toyota V8 from a 91 Crown or similar (rear sump anyway) into my 1988 Vogue.
If your wondering why because the 3.5 in it was knackered and some idiot had buggered off with the ECU so it's cheaper to fit a completely different motor than to put a 3.9 rover back in... What a shame!
I'm running it through the standard ZF automatic and Transfer box, (and axles, cringe). Adaption to the trans is interesting I'll post some pictures when it's completed.
I've got a microtech LT10 ECU to run it but as yet the engine isn't in the car so haven't run it yet.
Other than the motor the trucks pretty standard rover all over. Suspension and tyres and all the other mods will come in good time I suppose but for now I'm just trying to get it done in time for snowboarding this season.
Will post pictures and progress on here as I go, still a way off but i can't wait to get it done.
Any thoughts, comments or questions please fire away.
Cheers all.
Ben
1UZFE into Range Rover
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I'm told Marcel at Mamaku 4WD can supply 3.9L ECU's for about $500? If you've got a 3.9L available I'd stick to it, the ZF HP22 is a great box but I don't know if its up to the Toyota's squirt?
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yeah I tried hunting bits to keep it all rover a while back but nothing was going cheap enough and I needed a decent project to sink my teeth into at the time.
I think once I blow diffs, gearbox etc up I'll keep evolving the mechanics of it until a reliable setup emerges. I looked at using a Prado box and trans but I liked driving it with permenant 4x4, as well as keeping it simple for it's first mod cert.
The motor came along at the right price so i went down this track. I'm interested to know if anyone has much experience modding a 1uz? Cam regrind for more mid and bottom end torque for example, or whatever really. Ecu? Anything you know about putting one of these in a vehicle and getting it humming would be interesting to me.
Cheers
I think once I blow diffs, gearbox etc up I'll keep evolving the mechanics of it until a reliable setup emerges. I looked at using a Prado box and trans but I liked driving it with permenant 4x4, as well as keeping it simple for it's first mod cert.
The motor came along at the right price so i went down this track. I'm interested to know if anyone has much experience modding a 1uz? Cam regrind for more mid and bottom end torque for example, or whatever really. Ecu? Anything you know about putting one of these in a vehicle and getting it humming would be interesting to me.
Cheers
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the turbo shop in dunedin do alot of 1uzfe mods, if you can afford it, it can be done, but if i was going to play with the internals i would rather start with a different motor
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How are you going to adapt the motor to gearbox?
I think it'll be far more work and cost than fitting another rover engine in, you can get a complete rangie off trademe for about a grand. Spares for ever.
If fitting the toy V8 is your goal, then go for it. But if you want low end torque you should be looking at a diesel.
The axles and diffs are much stronger than most people give them credit for. You can spin up the stock size wheels on dry tarmac without blowing anything. But if you drive rough enough you can break anything.
I think it'll be far more work and cost than fitting another rover engine in, you can get a complete rangie off trademe for about a grand. Spares for ever.
If fitting the toy V8 is your goal, then go for it. But if you want low end torque you should be looking at a diesel.
The axles and diffs are much stronger than most people give them credit for. You can spin up the stock size wheels on dry tarmac without blowing anything. But if you drive rough enough you can break anything.
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having fitted several 1UZFE's to different vehicles including a commercial jet boat I would strongly advise against this swap.
The hassles and cost of manufacturing a bell housing then clutch flywheel ( if manual) or adapting an auto flex plate torque converter to be programed for stall speed etc, if auto. Then there is starter motor, exhaust, cooling, engine mounts, and a lot of other unseen problems (read cost)and I haven't mentioned the computer hassles yet, although there is answers to the computer hook up its at a high cost. Buying the motor is a fraction of the total outlay. when its in and hooked up you will be disappointed at the lack of power as these have very little torque but heaps of revs. R/Rovers are heavy and require torque to get rolling. off road I think this would be a pig as you would probably have to build up lots of revs then slip the clutch especially when hill starting. Don't get me wrong I think they are a good motor but in light weight vehicals. With the money spent to get a Toyota v8 in a r/rover you could easily have a TDi in and going or a very good s/b Chev or a Rover v8.If it was me I would sell the toyota and use that money to fit a rover V8.
just my 2c worth
The hassles and cost of manufacturing a bell housing then clutch flywheel ( if manual) or adapting an auto flex plate torque converter to be programed for stall speed etc, if auto. Then there is starter motor, exhaust, cooling, engine mounts, and a lot of other unseen problems (read cost)and I haven't mentioned the computer hassles yet, although there is answers to the computer hook up its at a high cost. Buying the motor is a fraction of the total outlay. when its in and hooked up you will be disappointed at the lack of power as these have very little torque but heaps of revs. R/Rovers are heavy and require torque to get rolling. off road I think this would be a pig as you would probably have to build up lots of revs then slip the clutch especially when hill starting. Don't get me wrong I think they are a good motor but in light weight vehicals. With the money spent to get a Toyota v8 in a r/rover you could easily have a TDi in and going or a very good s/b Chev or a Rover v8.If it was me I would sell the toyota and use that money to fit a rover V8.
just my 2c worth
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DJ, several times I since I got started I wondered about putting a Rover back in but I'm quite enjoying the challenge of building it.
I'll post some pictures of the bellhousing adapter once it's finished, it's an unusual solution that came about with the need to space the engine forward about 60mm to clear the back of the heads on the bulkhead (it's a tight fit), and to get it bolted up as the PCD's on the motor are too close to the rovers so a single plate adapter wasn't going to work.
I'm planning on using the stock TC off the rover motor adapted onto the Toyota. Don't know how well it will go without resetting the stall speed etc. but I figured I'd be spending a bit of money and effort after it's going on re engineering some of it.
I guess the proof will be in the pudding, I'll have to wait and see. Cheers for your input.
Ben
I'll post some pictures of the bellhousing adapter once it's finished, it's an unusual solution that came about with the need to space the engine forward about 60mm to clear the back of the heads on the bulkhead (it's a tight fit), and to get it bolted up as the PCD's on the motor are too close to the rovers so a single plate adapter wasn't going to work.
I'm planning on using the stock TC off the rover motor adapted onto the Toyota. Don't know how well it will go without resetting the stall speed etc. but I figured I'd be spending a bit of money and effort after it's going on re engineering some of it.
I guess the proof will be in the pudding, I'll have to wait and see. Cheers for your input.
Ben
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Well Ben, if it was only ever about common sense, we'd all be driving Toyotas.
You have the right approach to be a proper Land Rover owner, after all, You're bloody nuts, when finished it won't move until you can get 3000rpm up, but you'll presumably be very happy with it and have lots of stories to tell while others go wheeling.
You have the right approach to be a proper Land Rover owner, after all, You're bloody nuts, when finished it won't move until you can get 3000rpm up, but you'll presumably be very happy with it and have lots of stories to tell while others go wheeling.
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Flash2004 wrote:Well Ben, if it was only ever about common sense, we'd all be driving Toyotas.
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Flash, I know I'm nuts but I'm doing it anyway 
If it does turn out to be a dud then I'll stick something else in it anyway, it's only engineering and time.
Ben
If it does turn out to be a dud then I'll stick something else in it anyway, it's only engineering and time.Ben