front door speakers in a 1994 terrano

[muskie]

want to replace the front door mount speakers but they are an odd size 5x7, any of you guys found some that fit without cutting and chopping and making stuff to get them to fit. i just want to screw them in and forget, my standard speakers are disintegrating. would like to do the rears aswell but fronts need doing now. thanks

[kiwipete]

want to replace the front door mount speakers but they are an odd size 5x7, any of you guys found some that fit without cutting and chopping and making stuff to get them to fit. i just want to screw them in and forget, my standard speakers are disintegrating. would like to do the rears as well but fronts need doing now. thanks

My 95 model had 5.5inch rounds in the front, but I managed to get 6inch ones in there with little effort.
The other thing to try is remove the 5x7's from the rear and place these in the door, replacing the rears with 6x9's. There is a need for a simple spacer made of custom board to fit these though.
Alternatively you can get 5x7's from any reputable sounds shop, they are available.
Are your rears in the roof or on the boot linings?
I can take a couple of shots of mine over the weekend for you if you like.

[muskie]

good idea, but rears arnt really worth removing and fitting in the front to be honest, my rears are in the roof and would like to fit 6x9's there at some stage. i didnt know 5x7 was an easy to get size, thought it would be special order expensive type of thing.

[kiwipete]

good idea, but rears arnt really worth removing and fitting in the front to be honest, my rears are in the roof and would like to fit 6x9's there at some stage. i didnt know 5x7 was an easy to get size, thought it would be special order expensive type of thing.

I approached 2 sounds stores here in Chch and they both said they could get them, at around $100 a pair. I decided to get some cheap 6" rounds for the front and good 6x9's in back.
Like I said, with a spacer the rears fit well.
I got the cheapos for the front as the doors fill with water on river xings etc, so they wont cost much to replace.

[muskie]

got some fusion 6x9's 3 way for rear roof mounts and some fusion 6.5'' 3 way rounds for the front which will fit pretty much straight in on origional holes, took advantage of repco's sale both sets for $100, cant knock that price i was looking at paying $70 for fronts alone. just need spacers like you said for 6x9 rears..

[kiwipete]

I used the card template for the rears and cut 2x18mm spacers for each speaker, one slightly larger than the other.
I glued these two together and covered them in vynal.
Screw them to the original hole in the roof and screw the speakers to them.
Like I said, I will take some shots for you, tomorrow, when this bloody rain has gone.

The reason for spacing mine so much was to clear the magnet from the top of the roof as the originals were low profile.

[kiwipete]

Here is a picture of one of my rear speakers.

[muskie]

did you disconect tweeters or leave them connected??

[kiwipete]

did you disconect tweeters or leave them connected??

There is supposed to be some sort of additional power amp for the original "stereo" but im bugged if I could find one in my truck. I even stripped out the boot linings looking for one. I ran new wiring for the 6x9's.
I think the tweeters were blown, so I didn't touch them, couldn't work out how to get to them either without breaking the plastic surround.
I even used the origonal wiring for the front speakers, but ran an extra pair of wires from them for some cheap pillar mounted tweeters.
Hidden in the boot area is a kick ass Sony power amp for my head unit and a 12" sub!
Front speakers are driven directly from the head unit.

[muskie]

hey pete, thinking of putting an amp and sub in now but! my terrano is 24v starting and i would need to put a permanent connection from batt to amp (400watt ish) how would this be achieved? any ideas? is yours 24v?

[kiwipete]

hey pete, thinking of putting an amp and sub in now but! my terrano is 24v starting and i would need to put a permanent connection from batt to amp (400watt ish) how would this be achieved? any ideas? is yours 24v?

Are you sure its 24V and not just dual batteries wired in in parallel, giving 12V and heaps of amps?
I have not heard of a 12V Terrano sorry.
Aside from this, my amp is powered directly from the battery with the supplied cable, uses the remote lead from the head unit to turn it on/off etc.
All power cables are run along one side of the floor pan, and speaker wires along the other side. The RCA leads go down the enter of the floor.
This wiring goes on top of a strip of Duct tape with another strip of Duct tape over them. This keeps things from getting chaffed against the steel floor and prevents the main power lead from shorting.
I made a MDF box for the amp; back, two sides and a top. This is placed beside the rear wheel arch and keeps it all out of site from prying eyes, the box preventing it from knocks with objects in the boot.
I have seen one mounted up on the hood lining, above the centre rear seat position, and is also hidden from the outside.
That's the only drawback with the Terrano's, there is really no room for things like this. Even behind the wheel arch plastic lining is little room.
The sub was another headache too, it takes up so much room. Mine is custom made by yours truly to fit behind the rear seats. It fits into my custom drawers. I will take a photo of all this too sometime for you.
I had thought of removing the rear roof lining and seeing if the sub would have fitted in there above the boot, but I dont know how a sub would sound up there.

[muskie]

i think your right about batteries, i just assumed it was 24 volt as my older terrano had one battery and my safari had two and was 24v. hhhhhmmmmm i will have to look into that a bit more, as it still leaves me with two batts and i dont know if just taking the wiring for the amp off one batt will be good or not.

[kiwipete]

i think your right about batteries, i just assumed it was 24 volt as my older terrano had one battery and my safari had two and was 24v. hhhhhmmmmm i will have to look into that a bit more, as it still leaves me with two batts and i dont know if just taking the wiring for the amp off one batt will be good or not.

You can use one battery for your power supply, if in doubt, just put a multimeter across the terminal first.
Can you take a shot of the second battery location for me as I will be doing something similar for mine soon?
I need to see where the AC lines are placed and air breather connections etc etc etc.

[muskie]

yep no problem but pm me your email as i have never been succesful in putting pictures up on here for some reason. will take some pics for you at weekend as its dark when i go work and dark when i come home

[adrianp]

Hi Guys - New Here so I hope I can get this photo thing to work!

My front speakers - I'll go into more detail once I know the photo will work

[adrianp]

Sweet! Success!

So I brought some 6x9's from Super Cheap as they were $29 for a pair and I just wanted to see if I could get them to fit. The fronts needed the spacers as shown above ($15 from Super Cheap Auto). The rears would actually fit if you got a bit creative with the framing on the speaker and an angle grinder! I found that if you cut away some of the speaker framing the they will pretty much fit into the same holes. I didn't want to use spacers here as it would limit the height of things that could slide into the boot.

Turns out that with a decent head unit and a 12inch sub in the boot, the $29 speakers are more that than good enough. The plan was to use them to get the fit right and then replace them with good quality speakers but they are all good. I'd like to get new covers for the fronts so that they match the spacers a bit better.

[muskie]

hi, not really sure about the fronts but rears look good, i wanted to keep the trim looking as standard as poss so i fitted the fusion 6.5 inch 3 ways in the front, had to modify the plastic speaker to door mount and then they sat in absolutly perfect with no trim panel mods whatsoever, took a little time trimming to keep it all factory looking but there is plenty of cold evenings at the mo. still havent finished rears yet, need to shape and paint/cover some thin spacers.

[kiwipete]

I see your vynal is coming off the centre roof strip. I had this problem too and found an easyish fix.
Remove this unit, it press fits into 4 holes in the roof, after you have removed the centre piece where the light is and the top strip above the door etc. I mean there is a lot to remove to get it off successfully. You may even have to remove the front windscreen pillar plastic strip too, use a flat blade to pry it all loose.
Anyhow, when you have it all off, remove the rest of the vynal and carefully clean both surfaces with warm soapy water and dry. It is a type of foam rubber that has deteriorated between the two surfaces.
When it was all dry, I used some spray on Ados adhesive, let both get tacky then carefully place the vynal back in place.
It wont come off again, so be careful here.
Simply reassemble it all and your done.

[4wdnuts]

hey pete, thinking of putting an amp and sub in now but! my terrano is 24v starting and i would need to put a permanent connection from batt to amp (400watt ish) how would this be achieved? any ideas? is yours 24v?

Are you sure its 24V and not just dual batteries wired in in parallel, giving 12V and heaps of amps?
I have not heard of a 12V Terrano sorry.
Aside from this, my amp is powered directly from the battery with the supplied cable, uses the remote lead from the head unit to turn it on/off etc.
All power cables are run along one side of the floor pan, and speaker wires along the other side. The RCA leads go down the enter of the floor.
This wiring goes on top of a strip of Duct tape with another strip of Duct tape over them. This keeps things from getting chaffed against the steel floor and prevents the main power lead from shorting.
I made a MDF box for the amp; back, two sides and a top. This is placed beside the rear wheel arch and keeps it all out of site from prying eyes, the box preventing it from knocks with objects in the boot.
I have seen one mounted up on the hood lining, above the centre rear seat position, and is also hidden from the outside.
That's the only drawback with the Terrano's, there is really no room for things like this. Even behind the wheel arch plastic lining is little room.
The sub was another headache too, it takes up so much room. Mine is custom made by yours truly to fit behind the rear seats. It fits into my custom drawers. I will take a photo of all this too sometime for you.
I had thought of removing the rear roof lining and seeing if the sub would have fitted in there above the boot, but I dont know how a sub would sound up there.

hi pete

ive just brought a terrano to but the newer shape. was wondering if you could post pics of your sub and amp setup as im looking to build something like this to.

cheers

scott

[kiwipete]

Just a couple of pics of the sub and power amp.









I think everything is pretty much self explanatory from the pics, but if you have any questions, fire away.

[muskie]

hey pete that is awesome, you have done a real nice job there mate, looks like a factory extra.

[kiwipete]

hey pete that is awesome, you have done a real nice job there mate, looks like a factory extra.

I should have carried the top of the drawers right over to the sides of the boot lining to make a flatter storage space. Might re-do it one day.
Mu camping chairs and table fit nicely in between the boot lining and drawers on the LH side
I bolted it to the floor where the cargo tie downs were, and screwed these to the sides of the drawers.
The drawers are on runners to allow them to fully retract.
I made the sub box from a plan off the Net, that suited the size of the sub I had. It is recessed into the drawer top to allow it to rest against the back of the rear seats.
The Amp box cover thing, just needs some black speaker cloth over it to keep prying eyes at bay, but I normally have my chains in their box in there, so it is hidden then.
Only problem is I cant sleep in the truck anymore. I need a roof rack to put it all up there.

[muskie]

pete, cant help but notice your bumper sits low, have you done a bodylift, what size tyres have you fited?? have you got a side on pic of truck??

[kiwipete]

pete, cant help but notice your bumper sits low, have you done a bodylift, what size tyres have you fited?? have you got a side on pic of truck??

Yep have done a 2" body lift, diddnt bother altering the rear bumper as I would also have to re-do the tow bar mounts.
I am going for a whole new setup sometime so will be replacing both bumpers.
Here is a thread of the body lift, there are some side pics in there, but photobucket chopped them.
Its on 31" tyres at the moment, will be putting 33's on sometime. I got it certed for 33's.
http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/Forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=9717

Photo bucket pics are here, http://s195.photobucket.com/albums/z218/kiwi_pete/?start=60

[muskie]

thats awesome mate and its given me the kick up the rrs to build something similar, your truck is just the sort of thing i am after, capable off road, economical, and four doors. would be interesting to see what it will be like with 33''s on with the auto box, i would imagine alot of trimming aswell... what does it drive like now, does it wander around alot on road, and does it brake ok in an emergency. been thinking of going the safari route but its going to be $6k for a truck that will need work straight away and most probably welding, i reckon i can get an 92/93 terrano and do the mods with money to spare. dont want to mod my everday truck as it has to get me work everyday, that way i can mod at my own leisure and stop half way through a job if needed. be aware mate you will probably have questions to answer

[kiwipete]

thats awesome mate and its given me the kick up the rrs to build something similar, your truck is just the sort of thing i am after, capable off road, economical, and four doors. would be interesting to see what it will be like with 33''s on with the auto box, i would imagine alot of trimming aswell... what does it drive like now, does it wander around alot on road, and does it brake ok in an emergency. been thinking of going the safari route but its going to be $6k for a truck that will need work straight away and most probably welding, i reckon i can get an 92/93 terrano and do the mods with money to spare. dont want to mod my everday truck as it has to get me work everyday, that way i can mod at my own leisure and stop half way through a job if needed. be aware mate you will probably have questions to answer

Feel free to ask questions.
It doesn't really wander on the road, well no more than you would expect with no sway bars etc.
As far as driving is concerned, I have to be more alert (yeah right) on the open road and try to stick to the posted speed limits on corners as it has a lot of body roll, especially in the wet. Shingle roads are much more comfortable to drive on as each wheel is acting more independent of each other soaking up the bumps, especially in the corrugations. No more, or very little, rear end skipping on them now.
I reckon it will be fine with the 33's with the auto box and braking is no problem as the certifier was more than happy there. We tested it for a day with the 33's before certing, but only on sealed roads. There were no noticeable added effects.
Yes there will be a small amount of trimming to do, but I will not know for sure till I remove the moulded flares to see how much clearance is truly there. Then I will have to get some 65mm rubber (bushranger) flares for it.
When I had it certed it did rub on the rear of the front guards, where the mudflap is, at just over 1/2 lock, but this was just rubbing though.
I can get the 31's to rub on full articulation on the rears as it is, but this is only in extreme cases.
If I had to replace my truck for any reason, it would be a Safari, but I don't see that happening for quite some time.

[muskie]

hey pete, were your body lift blocks a kit?? can you tell me the block diametre and the length of the bolts used please, 10 blocks reqd total? and are they all ok exactly the same size?? what were they made from?? thanks mate

[kiwipete]

hey pete, were your body lift blocks a kit?? can you tell me the block diametre and the length of the bolts used please, 10 blocks reqd total? and are they all ok exactly the same size?? what were they made from?? thanks mate

I got the blocks from a 4WD shop here in chch, I cant remember the diameter though sorry.
All 10 blocks were the same size and I think were made from Nolathene?.
As for the bolts, I took a front one and a rear one into Blacks bolts and asked for some 50mm longer. 8 like the front one and 2 like the rear one.

Sorry I cant be much more help at this stage.

[u13turbo]

Sorry for bringing up really old thread, but my terrano has the stupid big speakers in the boot, Did your terrano come with speakers in the roof, or did you move them there? if you did was it hard?