gq swb front lokka

[mudhunt]

im looking at fitting a lock rite lokka to the front of my nissan. WHo has done this and does it go well

[Sadam_Husain]

Nizsafari has got one in the frount of his Saf and it seems to work alright

[muskie]

some people say that they have steering issues with a lockright lokka but that is only what i have heard so some one may say different..

[mudhunt]

has anyone had steering problems? You are guna get some steering problems with any front locker arent you?

[Sadam_Husain]

has anyone had steering problems? You are guna get some steering problems with any front locker arent you?

Putting one in the front means when your driving around on the road your free wheeling hubs will be dis-engauged and the locker will have no affect on the steering or handling, off road it'll be like any locker and depend on the terain and cambers your driving on as to how it'll affect the steering and handling

[Nizsafari]

im looking at fitting a lock rite lokka to the front of my nissan. WHo has done this and does it go well

Did you end up getting a Lokrite fitted???

[pathfinder67]

No problems steering with a lokka, a little heavy when going real slow but apart from that I forget its even there most of the times. Hardly use the rear one with the front in now.

[mudhunt]

hey pathfinder so what lockers do you have

[PigFmr]

i have been using a LSD in the front of saf for 8ths now best thing i ever done
vince

[mudhunt]

r u just running two lsds?or rear locked

[pathfinder67]

I have an aussie Lokka in the front and a re-built factory in the rear. When I say re-built, I mean "re-built"(took it to a professional racecar gear maker) including aftermarket soleniods. Engages and disengages instantly now.

[PigFmr]

r u just running two lsds?or rear locked

front and rear lsd, rear lsd real tight front one did not touch at all, was told not to tighten up the front to much

vince

[gary_in_nz]

so are the Lokka's permanently locking up the diff?? or are they another lsd?? or do they somehow detect slippage in the diff and instead of all the power going to the easiest spun wheel it sends it to both?? just trying to get full understanding, wanna chuck one in my safari as well, cheers

[albundy]

in answer to your question: taken from wikapedia

Locking Differential (Detroit Locker/Lokka™)
A locker locks both wheels under normal conditions i.e. the default state is locked. If a wheel is externally forced to rotate faster than the differential centre (i.e. the outer wheel in a corner) the mechanism unlocks that wheel and allows it to turn freely (but only so long as it rotates faster than the centre). Thus the locker has the extremely unusual characteristic of applying drive torque through the inner wheel in corners. Driveshaft input torque causes the pinion cross shaft to lock the centre more firmly, resisting the unlocking action. Often used in off-road 4WD applications. Can be very noisy. The traditional American racing differential is a Detroit Locker. Can be difficult to control under power in corners as the two actions of the mechanism are contradictory, the car will unpredictably alternate between one wheel and two wheel drive.[5]

They are in no way an LSD as some seem to claim and they do break axles, cv's etc if used incorrectly. Nissan safaris do real well with a front locker, you will never look back.
Al

[mudhunt]

so im ready to get my locker now have heard mixed stories but im notr guna fork out 3g for an air locker which is the best option, Lokka quite cheap lockrite similar price and the detroit which ive heard is the best option quiter and stronger. who knows where to get detroit lockers? any online?

[albundy]

I think you will find the detriots expensive as they need to be imported, could be worng though. I have had my front lokka in for 18mths now with now problems at all. Have only broken a hub, no cv's as yet, but that may change with my new 35" silverstones. Now carrying a spare cv.
Al

[mudhunt]

got a price for a detroit front locker today 1100au landed at my door, dearer than a lockright. Very good reviews though anyone got one?

[Sadam_Husain]

got a price for a detroit front locker today 1100au landed at my door, dearer than a lockright. Very good reviews though anyone got one?

If your going to be spending that sort of money you might as well throw a couple more bucks in the kitty and get a selectable locker

[mudhunt]

i was thinking that but an air locker i was quoted well over 2500 fitted, best quote ive had is 950 fitted for a lockright, then another 150 to tighten and shim my lsd in the rear i think i will go for that option. Actually i think the brand was lokka, one placed i rang who installed the lockright said they are very noisey in nissans and the othe other fits the lokka brand and they said they great but cant tell if its just a salesman talking. Id like to hear more from people driving with them to get some real feedback

[DaveM]

Maybe ask Safari Mulisha, he's looking for a ARB diff lock at the moment to "upgrade" from the auto's I think, might be worth asking him what ones he runs. Al has mentioned his lokka is trouble free

[Nizsafari]

i was thinking that but an air locker i was quoted well over 2500 fitted, best quote ive had is 950 fitted for a lockright, then another 150 to tighten and shim my lsd in the rear i think i will go for that option. Actually i think the brand was lokka, one placed i rang who installed the lockright said they are very noisey in nissans and the othe other fits the lokka brand and they said they great but cant tell if its just a salesman talking. Id like to hear more from people driving with them to get some real feedback

I've had on in the front of my safari for 3 years now...only killed 1 hub and 1 cv.. running 35's. mine clicks every now and again but its never let me down
$950 fitted!!! how much are they charging you for the Lokka?? i can get them for around AU$500 landed in NZ

[mudhunt]

lokka is 699 fitting 250

[PigFmr]

Jase
i am going to do this very soon next week or 2,just got sell my front LSD complete so someone can just bolt into there safari or use for the rear of a terrano,will do a exchange i need a open front diff to fit lokka, cant find my open diff head mine was in the garage,when are you doing urs??

if anyone is keen to buy my front LSD for there saf just send me a PM,bolt it in and ur away

Vince

[mudhunt]

sometime in the next month not too sure yet, so you going lokka then?

[gordo]

hi i am going to put a lokka in my safari ,i picked up a mint diff head for $200

[coxsy]

got given one , not much use to you up here though

[mudhunt]

im just about to put a locker in now i was guna get an air locker but i struggle to part with pennys!!! They are just so expensive. I would love one but even bringing them in from the states they work out to two grand by the time you exchange currency freight and gst when it gets here. That is for the unit and 24v comp. Auto lockers like 500 plus fitting. I have heard such mixed reviews about autolockers in safaris. Some say they great and others say they are terrible, anyone else wana put their point forward? i think im guna settle for the auto locker unless told other wise, im not doing comps mainly just doing a few tracks with mates

[cool__bananas]

its not 3g for a airlocker, isnt it like 1800 in the box? but what about those now chinese lockers? try one of them?

[gary_in_nz]

i'm waiting for you to put it in so you can tell us what they are like, but by the sounds of it 'bang for buck' they are a good move.

i'm just worried about sliding down a steep slippery hill because i cant make the tight turn on a slippery surface because the front wheels are locked together

[cool__bananas]

im not silly enough to own a nissan!!!!