2.8 rugger/rocky pto winch need help

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2.8 rugger/rocky pto winch need help

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anyone got a pto winch on their 2.8 rugger/rocky? needing some info about one just got one off trademe and need info to make sure everythings there for it . cheers
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I got your txt. Sorry been busy with various work.
Ill get in touch.

Are you in a hurry?
The JizzBlizz has had it PTO resessed, helps the approach angle heaps, you really should look into doing it too.

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i mite look into doing it although mine sits pretty high and has had the front diff moved forward so approach should still be pretty good i think.

i think all the parts for it are there not to sure though all the mounting gear is there though
and im not in to much of a hurry would like to get it on sometime this week or next though
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What parts do you have? My pto winch is a factory Daihatsu PTO, for the Rugger.

A crucial factor when you put this unit on is that you MUST protect the PTO box itself, off the gearbox, as they hang down alot, and can get smashed easily.

The factory winch frame it comes on is also huge, so I got mine cut down and therefore mounted it as close into the front of the truck as possible.

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Chuck up as many pictures as you can, I'll be putting a Safari PTO on my Blizzard soon and any ideas would be great.
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hey dick do you have any pics of the winch unit its self i think mines missing a few bits on it so wouldnt mind checking
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2roky wrote:hey dick do you have any pics of the winch unit its self i think mines missing a few bits on it so wouldnt mind checking


Will get some photos tomorrow, when its daylight, and post them up for ya.
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thatd be good thanks how do ya work these ptos this will be the 1st i've had to do with them
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Here are some pics.

The way i use my pto, is i put my transfer case into neutral, then engage the pto box (by pulling pto lever). Then i select a gear, normally 1st or 2nd, then let clutch out and away i go. Obviously, i have hooked the winch cable up to something, and engaged the winch itself on the winch unit.

Sometimes i winch with the transfercase in low. This means the wheels turn as well as the winch. However, i dont do this to often, as sometimes it can make the track worse for others that come after me.

This is the winch setup on my Rugger.

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PTO SHAFT that runs winch

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Lever to pull to engage pto box

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PTO Box itself

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PTO box and skid plate protecting pto box

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Bracket which cable to engage pto box is attached to

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Front of PTO box

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PTO shaft support bolted to bellhousing (as a support) - this is greaseable

Another Daihatsu winch i have for spare
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PTO Box spare

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Hopefully this can give you more of an insite as to how the winch is setup.

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The winch is set back as far as possible, without doing any major modification of the chassis etc. I did drill out the hole which the pto shaft goes through, in the front crossmember of the chassis, just so i could get the winch back as far as possible. It didn't need much drilling however.
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awsum cheers for that im missing the lever and unit on the left of the winch what does it do and how much would you want for the one you have spare.
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2roky wrote:awsum cheers for that im missing the lever and unit on the left of the winch what does it do and how much would you want for the one you have spare.
cheers


You mean this piece:

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This piece unengages the winch to freespool so you can pull cable out easily, without having to winch it out, and also this piece engages the winch as locked so you can winch with it.

Sorry mate, but factory winch parts are extremely hard to come by so im not selling mine. The auction you brought it off said it was a complete unit, so why is it missing parts?
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yeh thats the peice is it just a sliding ring on the shaft and the lever or how does it work ill give the guy a ring and see if he knows what happend to it
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Its a bit complicated, my explanation that is, but it hopefully will help!
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your explanation is completely clear, cheers for that. how hard would it be to make up a lever do you think?
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Found a pic of the original winch bar
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might have some more of the bar removed as well....I'll have a looksie

blizzards might have the missing parts as they are similar vehicles
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2roky wrote:your explanation is completely clear, cheers for that. how hard would it be to make up a lever do you think?


I think it would be easier to try and find the missing part rather than make it....The housing that the lever works within is cast i think, but the lever itself is steel.
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Jerry wrote:Found a pic of the original winch bar
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might have some more of the bar removed as well....I'll have a looksie

blizzards might have the missing parts as they are similar vehicles



WHOA, thats quite a different looking truck than what she is now...Its hard to remember what she looked like the day i drove her home from welly. ha.
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thats the same as the bar ive got at the mo, after having a good look at the winch today in the day light its just the lever that i need i have the housing and locking bit guessing the guys broken and lost the lever he didnt no much about the thing really. could i perhaps borrow the lever off yours for a couple of weeks so that a mate who's a machinist could copy it transport all at my cost of coarse.
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2roky wrote:thats the same as the bar ive got at the mo, after having a good look at the winch today in the day light its just the lever that i need i have the housing and locking bit guessing the guys broken and lost the lever he didnt no much about the thing really. could i perhaps borrow the lever off yours for a couple of weeks so that a mate who's a machinist could copy it transport all at my cost of coarse.


Is the base of the lever there? What about the tounge bit, which moves the engage / disengage thing on the shaft back in forth, by the drum?
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the hole lever and tounge section is missing the pull push locking thing on the casing is there though
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