Panhard Bushes in gq

[Bushrash]

Hey
Have read a few different opinions on different bush materials,,,,i am going through the elimination process for bloody wheel shimmy and have replaced my steering damper ,,which was shot and had the wheels balanced and a major improvement but still there .
Are the nolothane type bushes ok to use?? have used them in race car suituations with good results but no opne seems to rave about them in gq's i have a account with nissan but the genuine rubber ones a really expensive as opposed to the nolos??any thoughts appreciated!!
Bushrash

[3VILC]

Tried SAS over at the mount? They are pretty good. Can get whiteline urethane stuff and aftermarket rubber.

[Bushrash]

Tried SAS over at the mount? They are pretty good. Can get whiteline urethane stuff and aftermarket rubber.

will try them cheers!!

[MudBum]

From what i've read it would seem that rubber is far better than nolo..try the Outerlimits website in Auss there's a lot of info on this subject.

[DaveM]

Only use rubber, last a lot longer, and you will have less problems with wear.
I ran Notec, Nolathane etc, went through 4 sets on the front in 12mths, but no problems after I went factory rubber. The problem is, Nissan will only sell a complete panhard, so I got mine from oz.

If the safari is lifted, and you don't run castor correction, this can also cause a slight shimmy (but probably more of a noticable wander in the steering)

[Bushrash]

Hey
Taken Advice and gone for rubber ones,,, of my drivetrain suppliers i use for my driveshaft side of my business had rubber replacement panhard bushes,,,,got them today and they look pretty good and well priced so will fit them this weekend and see how we get on
Cheers
Bushrash

[3VILC]

I ran urethane in my skyline, and indeed good for handling but wear way faster. So the cons probably outweigh the pros in something like a safari where solid handling is not much of a concern. More so when used off road and flexed a lot more I imagine wear would be a lot greater, unless you feel the urge to pull them out and regrease them every 5 mins . Re: the caster issues, im tempted to save up and go the extra for drop boxes, should fix the shimmer and save excessive radius arm bush wear. Not sure about the safaris as i havent had mine that long, but my skyline has the same style pin mounted radius arm with the 2 'washer' type bushes (be it mounted from the front rearwards, rather than the back forwards like a safari), and that chews radius arm bushes like you wouldnt believe, they all do. Hence i guess the change in later models to an eye mount radius arm. Of course not practical with a live front axle tho.

[DaveM]

Re: the caster issues, im tempted to save up and go the extra for drop boxes, should fix the shimmer and save excessive radius arm bush wear. Not sure about the safaris as i havent had mine that long, but my skyline has the same style pin mounted radius arm with the 2 'washer' type bushes (be it mounted from the front rearwards, rather than the back forwards like a safari), and that chews radius arm bushes like you wouldnt believe, they all do. Hence i guess the change in later models to an eye mount radius arm. Of course not practical with a live front axle tho.

There are now aftermarket safari arms with the eyemount bushing at the chassis end, but unsure of the mods required to fit them. What size lift are you running?

[3VILC]

Interesting. Probably quite expensive I imagine looking at what normal longer arms are worth, hence drop boxes instead. The front springs are from memory 60-75mm lift heavy duty, even with the winch on id say it sits closer to 75. By eye with the arm at where id envision a drop box to sit, it looks as if it would be level, or at least a darned site closer than it is now.

[darinz]

You can get the panhard rod bushes from Nissan in NZ, but you have to order the rear ones as Nissan have NFI. You can order from part number or just get them to print out the page with the rear panhard and get the numbers from there.

Urathane is a waste of money in the front of a Safari. I'll trying some in the rear as we were having a problem with rubber in the trailing arm bushes. The crush tube was getting torn out and the rest of the bush was perfect and after not very much time!

[flyingbrick]

For the record- I ordered front and rear bushes last friday (four in total). $25 a bush from jim wright.