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You may have said in one of the last 12 pages - what tyre pressures do you run with the BFG's? 2nd Airs? Tubes?
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NJV6 wrote:You may have said in one of the last 12 pages - what tyre pressures do you run with the BFG's? 2nd Airs? Tubes?
I was running 15lbs all weekend and as I have said before. People talk about the superiority of one brand over another , but I believe it doesn't matter as long as the pressure is right. At Westport though I do run with the cross plys.
I run tractor tubes in all my tyres on 7-8 inch rims which means you can lower the pressure without any problem
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One of problems many hilux owners have is with there front drive shaft when there truck is raised. Very steep universal angles on the drive shaft and drive shafts dropping out.
These problems are completely over come with Nissan coil front end.
Here is a pic of the truck as it stands on the ground

This the measurement on the drive shaft

Here is a pic of it jacked up

Notice the measurement on the drive shaft now---It has only moved 10mm
And notice also the universal is still nearly straight. I cut the swivel hubs off and reset the caster so the diff points to the gear box

Advantages
1 With less movement the shit doesn't get dragged into spline as much and there is a lot less wear.
2 And there is no way it can fall out
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These problems are completely over come with Nissan coil front end.
Here is a pic of the truck as it stands on the ground

This the measurement on the drive shaft

Here is a pic of it jacked up

Notice the measurement on the drive shaft now---It has only moved 10mm
And notice also the universal is still nearly straight. I cut the swivel hubs off and reset the caster so the diff points to the gear box

Advantages
1 With less movement the shit doesn't get dragged into spline as much and there is a lot less wear.
2 And there is no way it can fall out
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good solution but with out the tech know how I just put in a 12in spline works a treat 

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or you could get a longer drive shaft?
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cool__bananas wrote:or you could get a longer drive shaft?
Why lower my trucks capabilities with inferior alternatives. I only go for the best.
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Bulletproof wrote:cool__bananas wrote:or you could get a longer drive shaft?
Why lower my trucks capabilities with inferior alternatives. I only go for the best.
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Why did you not just buy a nissan then (and im not taking the piss) ,Im just woundering why you would you bother swaping a nissian front end into a hilux when you can just buy a nissian and modify that with all your other accesories you've got .
Was it just that you already had the hilux or was there some other reason?
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Out of interest, how much ground clearance did you lose (if any) going to the Nissan setup, and have you noticed any significant degrade as result off road? Cheers.
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I would imagine that the Lux had already had thousands of hours (and dollars) spent on it, and the 3 link front end was just another step towards the end, (which never happens eh richard?).
I know my POS has 2 terrano arms and Nissan bushes in the front 5 link, RR coils, and Subaru callipers on the back, It is just a case of building your truck to suit your needs.
Have a look at the modified trials guys, there wouldn't be one of them who has used just the one make and model to build their rigs would there?
I know my POS has 2 terrano arms and Nissan bushes in the front 5 link, RR coils, and Subaru callipers on the back, It is just a case of building your truck to suit your needs.
Have a look at the modified trials guys, there wouldn't be one of them who has used just the one make and model to build their rigs would there?
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Why did you not just buy a nissan then (and im not taking the piss) ,Im just woundering why you would you bother swaping a nissian front end into a hilux when you can just buy a nissian and modify that with all your other accesories you've got .
Was it just that you already had the hilux or was there some other reason?
There is no standard truck that is good for real 4 wheel driving. Probably a range rover would be the most capable but are of very poor quality so break down all the time.
I looked at all trucks before buying the hilux and wanted an all round truck. Something I can take rubbish to the tip with as well 4 wheel driving.
The suspension on a hilux is absolutely useless with no articulation especially in the back .Thats why it has to be modified.
I played around with leaf springs for years but then decided to go for the coils. One of the best things I have ever done.
Firstly I looked at the range rover suspension which I think is better than Nissan but because I have a box section Landcruiser diff it wouldn't fit. So used the Nissan suspension instead.
Why didn't I buy a Nissan.
They have no ground clearance unless you on 38+ inch tyres because of their big diffs
They weight 500 kg more than most trucks
These 2 things are very important if you want a capable truck
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Have a look at the modified trials guys, there wouldn't be one of them who has used just the one make and model to build their rigs would there?
I think that we have probaly one of the only D-Class rigs that runs purely one make.......all Range-Rover & no we don't break all the time!!!!!
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Bulletproof wrote:Why didn't I buy a Nissan.
They have no ground clearance unless you on 38+ inch tyres because of their big diffs
but 35s on a hilux diff have the same amount of ground clearance as a nissan on 37?
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cool__bananas wrote:Bulletproof wrote:Why didn't I buy a Nissan.
They have no ground clearance unless you on 38+ inch tyres because of their big diffs
but 35s on a hilux diff have the same amount of ground clearance as a nissan on 37?
You are right about the 37s depending on the brand of tyre and whether it is true to size, but to give a suspension lift to make them work creates a lot of geometry problems and is a real major to get right.
Even my axle pulls sides ways about 30mm and my panhard rod is only 75mm off level. There are kits available at a price for a 6inch lift but they are not road legal.
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Leithfield wrote:Out of interest, how much ground clearance did you lose (if any) going to the Nissan setup, and have you noticed any significant degrade as result off road? Cheers.
I haven't lost any ground clearance and I am running standard nissan coils which is another advantage because I didnt need to buy special springs.
It works really well and I wouldn't go back to the old system.
I dont have the wheel travel like Rokhound because haven't done a 3 link system but for what I do with diff locks I dont need extreme articulation like the rock crawlers.
Mine still handles really good on the road and can go through most corners at a 100k
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Bulletproof wrote:One of problems many hilux owners have is with there front drive shaft when there truck is raised. Very steep universal angles on the drive shaft and drive shafts dropping out.
What about the transfer case end? Did you need a double cardon joint to run smoothly at those angles?
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KiwiBacon wrote:Bulletproof wrote:One of problems many hilux owners have is with there front drive shaft when there truck is raised. Very steep universal angles on the drive shaft and drive shafts dropping out.
What about the transfer case end? Did you need a double cardon joint to run smoothly at those angles?
I still run a cardon joint to reduce the angle but it is also is needed extend the drive shaft over gearbox cross member.
The angle on mine is the same as the radius arm so is not that great as the pic shows. I have seen some getting close to 45 degrees putting extreme side pressure on the bearings and everything else

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before you went to the nissan set up what setup were you running? i think a already no the answer but how did you go with cv's? i am working on a hilux which will be running 36 simex's with a supra engine. I'm trying to avoid spending the money on longfields so im interested if the truck will be strong enough and reliable with out them. I will be looking at only putting a locker in the rear at this stage and possibly an lsd in the front..
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Hey Dave,
I ran 36" swampers and a front LSD with 2.8 supra for 3 years and never broke a std cv. It is all about how you drive it. Don't load it up on steering lock, don't leap off terrafirma and land again with the power on, and you will be surprised how long std cv's will last. We have welded 6mm rod around the edge of std cv's before and had success with this, but I never did it to my wreck.
Put a locker in the front though, and the everything changes.
I think you will find that Richard has stated that he has a cruiser housing in his truck which has a high strength factor in the housing design.
Unfortunately if you want it strong and reliable, you are going to have to part with some coin.
I ran 36" swampers and a front LSD with 2.8 supra for 3 years and never broke a std cv. It is all about how you drive it. Don't load it up on steering lock, don't leap off terrafirma and land again with the power on, and you will be surprised how long std cv's will last. We have welded 6mm rod around the edge of std cv's before and had success with this, but I never did it to my wreck.
Put a locker in the front though, and the everything changes.
I think you will find that Richard has stated that he has a cruiser housing in his truck which has a high strength factor in the housing design.
Unfortunately if you want it strong and reliable, you are going to have to part with some coin.
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rangimotors wrote:before you went to the nissan set up what setup were you running? i think a already no the answer but how did you go with cv's? i am working on a hilux which will be running 36 simex's with a supra engine. I'm trying to avoid spending the money on longfields so im interested if the truck will be strong enough and reliable with out them. I will be looking at only putting a locker in the rear at this stage and possibly an lsd in the front..
I have been running an 8inch high pinion 70 series landcruiser diff that has the strenghtened CVs for a long time now and have never broken a CV. I have broken 2 right hand side axles but they were my own fault because as Rokhound says it is how you drive.
Both times I had the locker in and on one occasion landed hard from 2-3 ft in the air under power.
With a limited slip you will probably be fine but the only guarantee is to spend the dollars. Even then you only moving to the next weekest link in the chain. In my case I have broken the ARB locker twice so something has to give.Rik on Als trip screwed off a drive shaft so if you push the limits you will break something
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ok cheers guys, i no at some point ill have to put some in as well as a front locker, i should really do them well its all apart and in the build but i don't really want to part with the cash and im also keen to get it together and up and running so i can attempt to find its limmits and upgrade it from there. The theory is if i upgrade bits as i find they are holding me back i should be able to slowly build it into the truck i want and continue to improve my skills along the way.
sorry to be a little off topic, as you were
sorry to be a little off topic, as you were

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rangimotors wrote:ok cheers guys, i no at some point ill have to put some in as well as a front locker, i should really do them well its all apart and in the build but i don't really want to part with the cash and im also keen to get it together and up and running so i can attempt to find its limmits and upgrade it from there. The theory is if i upgrade bits as i find they are holding me back i should be able to slowly build it into the truck i want and continue to improve my skills along the way.
sorry to be a little off topic, as you were
That is basically what I did, just used the truck and found what needs strenghtening. I would let something break a couple of times and then think something needs to be done.
And you have alot of fun along the way.
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rangimotors wrote:The theory is if i upgrade bits as i find they are holding me back i should be able to slowly build it into the truck i want and continue to improve my skills along the way.
sorry to be a little off topic, as you were
And that statement there is the most useful information that has been posted on ORE in over 2 years.


Nothing offtopic about that fella, that is exactly what off highway driving is.
It should be on the home page!
Sorry Richard, I realise this is your thread, but I'm sure you agree 100% (at least I hope so

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Skid made a statement today that I want to answer
I am merely pointing out that this guy who thinks he has the best hilux in the world and thinks he can drive better than anyone else, may need to take a reality check.[/color]
This is not true. I dont claim to have the best Hilux and I dont claim to be the best driver.
I will give you a brief history of myself. I was born in 1946 which was before landrovers and landcruisers existed.
I was brought up on a farm and was taught the fundamentals of 4 wheel driving 50years ago. My father told me if the tractor spins in 2nd , change up to 3rd and use the torque of the motor and it works. Tractors dont have much power and will out perform a 4 wheel drive any day. I went farming myself and then joined Leyland trucks where we modified trucks to owners specs.
After that I worked in the bush falling trees and driving skidders where I learnt about the use of rope.
I am a very critical and analytical person who is always looking for ways to improve the truck. I went against the common belief that a real 4 wheel drive is a short wheelbase and bought a hilux when most people had short wheelbase cruisers and landrovers.
I was told the Hilux won't last . It is not strong enough, but have since proved them wrong. Over the years I have looked for ways to make it go better and have made mistakes but they only result in improvement and I haven't finished yet because there is nothing that can't be improved.
The Hilux to date owes me roughly $50,000 but there is more to come, because it still needs improving and I dont claim it to be the best and I dont claim to be the best 4 wheel driver.
The only thing I will say is I will go where most others won't because they dont have the balls. A number of times over the years I hve taken people to big deep river crossings and steep banks like the precipice and they walk away.
The main thing that makes a truck capable is a good winch because you can't get stuck.
Cheers Bulletproof
I am merely pointing out that this guy who thinks he has the best hilux in the world and thinks he can drive better than anyone else, may need to take a reality check.[/color]
This is not true. I dont claim to have the best Hilux and I dont claim to be the best driver.
I will give you a brief history of myself. I was born in 1946 which was before landrovers and landcruisers existed.
I was brought up on a farm and was taught the fundamentals of 4 wheel driving 50years ago. My father told me if the tractor spins in 2nd , change up to 3rd and use the torque of the motor and it works. Tractors dont have much power and will out perform a 4 wheel drive any day. I went farming myself and then joined Leyland trucks where we modified trucks to owners specs.
After that I worked in the bush falling trees and driving skidders where I learnt about the use of rope.
I am a very critical and analytical person who is always looking for ways to improve the truck. I went against the common belief that a real 4 wheel drive is a short wheelbase and bought a hilux when most people had short wheelbase cruisers and landrovers.
I was told the Hilux won't last . It is not strong enough, but have since proved them wrong. Over the years I have looked for ways to make it go better and have made mistakes but they only result in improvement and I haven't finished yet because there is nothing that can't be improved.
The Hilux to date owes me roughly $50,000 but there is more to come, because it still needs improving and I dont claim it to be the best and I dont claim to be the best 4 wheel driver.
The only thing I will say is I will go where most others won't because they dont have the balls. A number of times over the years I hve taken people to big deep river crossings and steep banks like the precipice and they walk away.
The main thing that makes a truck capable is a good winch because you can't get stuck.
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Bulletproof wrote:The only thing I will say is I will go where most others won't because they dont have the balls. A number of times over the years I hve taken people to big deep river crossings and steep banks like the precipice and they walk away.
Cheers Bulletproof
There are many tracks that I won't attempt, not due to "lack of balls" but inexperience, not wanting to break gear, and not having to prove myself
Ever think maybe others are the same, or is it just a lack of balls if they don't do your "real 4wding" tracks
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G"day Richard, I watch your tread Because I have seen some very inovative ideas and some awsome footage of your LWB (dosn't work apprantly) HiLux. Some have decided to criticise you and your truck ?? but I would like to see them out perform you or your LWB out there in the real world !! I would line my Mid wheel base HiLux up on a trip into the bush anytime and leave others to go get their grocerys in there 80 series and CRY about their SOLD 40 series V8.
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mudzilla wrote:G"day Richard, I watch your tread Because I have seen some very inovative ideas and some awsome footage of your LWB (dosn't work apprantly) HiLux. Some have decided to criticise you and your truck ?? but I would like to see them out perform you or your LWB out there in the real world !! I would line my Mid wheel base HiLux up on a trip into the bush anytime and leave others to go get their grocerys in there 80 series and CRY about their SOLD 40 series V8.
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Richard,
I enjoy reading about your exploits and the Hilux and agree with many of the ideas you have and the little mods you have done to your vehicle. Your skills are learnt from the school of hard knocks and are so much better than those who tap into a computer keyboard and think they are a top notch hard four wheeler.
Ignore the comments of that upstart pink hat wearing pansey who thinks he knows it all but isn't seen outside the city limits in the tank of his. Go hard or go home comes to mind and we all know who went home and stayed there with his comfort blanket.........
I enjoy reading about your exploits and the Hilux and agree with many of the ideas you have and the little mods you have done to your vehicle. Your skills are learnt from the school of hard knocks and are so much better than those who tap into a computer keyboard and think they are a top notch hard four wheeler.
Ignore the comments of that upstart pink hat wearing pansey who thinks he knows it all but isn't seen outside the city limits in the tank of his. Go hard or go home comes to mind and we all know who went home and stayed there with his comfort blanket.........
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Yep I have to say i agree totally with the last two posts. Skid sure has alot to say for a guy that only has a shiney, is a bit scared to get it dirty and spends all his time split between giving others shit and crying cause he had to sell his 40 to buy a pink hat



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Bulletproof wrote:Skid made a statement today that I want to answer
I am merely pointing out that this guy who thinks he has the best hilux in the world and thinks he can drive better than anyone else, may need to take a reality check.[/color]
Cheers Bulletproof
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