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I want to make a random project of a paddock bash car and see if I can get it to drive in water over its roof (I plan on wearing my dive gear). Anyone got any ideas on what I should do to it to achieve this. My budget is $100 and that will include buying the car. Of course I will need a big snorkle on the intake. How about waterproofing the spark plug leads and dizzy - will I be able to just use heaps of silicone spray or will I need to waterproof them better then that. Do you reckon I'll need an exhaust snorkle? I guess I'll be needing to do something with the fuel tank breather. Maybe remove the fan belt if its got one. Is there anything else that will stop it working underwater (other then loosing traction!).
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You'd have to do some serious shit to keep the ignition system running like running positive pressure inside the dizzy to stop the water from entering it

Or maybe extend the dizzy on a 6 foot shaft to keep it above the water :mrgreen: :lol:
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So maybe seal the dizzy in a plastic bag and run the engine breather pipe into the bag?
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save heaps of sealing and try and find an old diesel car.....
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nstg8a wrote:save heaps of sealing and try and find an old diesel car.....


Yea, I agree. I bought my diesel engine in a car for $100. Pulled the engine and loom, and sold a few bits off the car body to defray costs and got a free engine for the land rover. If not in a hurry check around the towies that do towing work for the cops as they'll tow an abandoned car for th cops, hold onto fo the required period, then sell to defray storage and towage. Usually quite cheap.
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a friends suzuki runs an air in and air out line through the dizzy cap, powered by an air horn compressor, and sealed with heaps of silicone. seems to work well i dont think he's had any issues with it
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one of these might be a goer?

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niblik wrote:one of these might be a goer?

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Yeah but I'm not sure about the ground clearance... looks more like one of those boy racer cars to me.... :lol:
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search (suzuki quarry) on you tube and see how deep a diesel 413 goes,
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You could run a small airbed pump sucking air from the snorkel pumping it into the gearbox, diffs, transfer case, and dizzy etc. This would be at about 2-4 psi I would think. You would probably need an exhaust snorkel as well I would imagine. Go for it and post pics of the build and trials.
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luke25 wrote:I want to make a random project of a paddock bash car and see if I can get it to drive in water over its roof (I plan on wearing my dive gear). Anyone got any ideas on what I should do to it to achieve this. My budget is $100 and that will include buying the car. Of course I will need a big snorkle on the intake. How about waterproofing the spark plug leads and dizzy - will I be able to just use heaps of silicone spray or will I need to waterproof them better then that. Do you reckon I'll need an exhaust snorkle? I guess I'll be needing to do something with the fuel tank breather. Maybe remove the fan belt if its got one. Is there anything else that will stop it working underwater (other then loosing traction!).



It is impossible to do unless you weigh it down. The law of phyisics say a cubic metre of air will lift a tonne and it will float away.

Many Nissan people say to me because their truck is heavier than my Hilux they can handle deeper water. Load of rubbish because their trucks are lower to the ground they have more floatation and are lighter than me.

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This was Al's early attempt at the fully submersible (sorry m8, couldn't resist it :wink: :lol:) :
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Is that the one you were thinking of Spanky?
One of my all time favorites.
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holy crap!!! iv never seen that video, must be a bit freaky when the water line is only a couple of inches from your roof :shock:
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Surely on the flotation side of things it will sink properley if I open the doors and let the water in?
And do the gear boxes and diffs really need to be pressurissed - I know getting water in there is bad but its not going to kill it in a day is it? Or will fill the case and hydraulic lock it
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just cut some holes in the roof to let the air out...
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thats the one UBZ dont know how many times ive watched it :D , on the flotation side of things on that video you can see it lose traction till it fills up with water them its sweet,
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yeah pretty inspirational.

They is something about a Diesel Powered Suzuki
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The floatations only really a problem if your in moving water like a fast flowing river that will push the vehicle around, still water would be ok but it would most likely have a soft boggy bottom so you better get some tractor tyres for it :lol:
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Did suzuki actually make any diesel 413's - thats pretty cool
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You mean like these Sadam? :mrgreen:

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UBZ wrote:You mean like these Sadam? :mrgreen:

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i dont know why, but i really like that wee zook...
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luke25 wrote:Did suzuki actually make any diesel 413's - thats pretty cool


That one on U-Tube has had a VW 1.6TDI Engine Swap

I think you can get some Models of Suzuki Samurai's oversea have a Puegot diesel in them from factory.
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UBZ wrote:You mean like these Sadam? :mrgreen:


Yep thats them :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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is that beast one of yours chris?
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pagar wrote:is that beast one of yours chris?


You mean the Zuk with Tractor Tires? Not mine just one that I really like the look of. The one in my Avatar is my POS
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UBZ wrote:
pagar wrote:is that beast one of yours chris?


You mean the Zuk with Tractor Tires? Not mine just one that I really like the look of. The one in my Avatar is my POS


yes I like it too but if it is not yours then there is not much point asking if you want to part with it then..... :D I am thinking of dropping down to a Zuk and A framing it then I can go loose modifying it.... :P
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Hey That's not fair kev, it didn't get stuck from electrical failure, it got hung up on a log :twisted: Motor did run ruff afterwards as ECU under seat got wet. I eventually sealed it in resin. Worked.
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All true, but it was well worthy of publication m8. :lol:
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Shit theres a better one of me floating the safari down the ashley on you tube somewhere.
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