Project Lemon's Motor an Box

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Project Lemon's Motor an Box

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Finally got back out to the shed and was able to do some more :D :cheers: :D

Started mounting the motor and box, with these and the cab on I'll be able to set the rear suspension to match the ride hieght in the front

But anyway heres my way of mounting a motor 8) I'm certain there has to be a more complicated way but... this is the best I could come up with :lol:
Started with 2 motors from 2.8 cressida's :wink: cheap sourse of supra motors, anyway both were buggered .... best of both, a full recon later I'm 0.5mm oversize on the pistons and slightly up'd compression with 0.5mm plained from both head and block and looking for a bellhousing (the only bugger with cressida's they're all auto :( ) after a fruitless search I decided to make one :roll:
If your ever desperate enough to try this, this is how I went about it
measured the length of the gearbox input shaft , depth of the clutch and width of clutch to the motor that gave me the width, next bit was cut the front of an auto 5m bellhousing and the back off the hilux one, mill them so they combine to the right height and are even, then stood the motor on its end mounted the motor end, using a striped gearbox with just the input shaft mounted the gearbox end, using the clutch to center every thing I welded everywhere the two halves touched then for everywhere else I cut and trimmed to match the two halves up
And here we have a work of art :roll:
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Now after all this I stumbled accross a manual bellhousing on trademe, and with my intent to supercharge I decided to buy the new one... piece of mind an all :roll: :lol: hopefully the new one will be arriving soon :wink: along with some other fruity bits :D

Anyway on the good side doing this ment I stripped the gearbox, where I found the last owner of it was a moron, it had been rebuilt in the past and they had mixed up 3/4 and 5th gear sincro rings... they are the same size its just 3/4 has bevells on both sides to help it slid into gear, 5th only has them on one side :shock: I'm guessing the reason they sold was becouse they couldn't use 3rd :lol:... thankfully no damage other than that...

Next up was the double adapter to run 2 transfercases.... Cheers SupraSurf nice an easy to install, with this on my gearbox mount had to move back so I cleaned the old mounts off the chassis going to do something a bit funky with this :wink:

Now comes some more fun mounting it all .... having no engine mounts to go off (the deisel hilux mounts will work) being a petrol hilux mine were in the wrong spot and having no gearbox mount I hung the motor and box's in the chassi and using a few ropes tied it into place. then made some new engine mounts to fit, I'm now working on a new gearbox cross member
8) hopefully my measurements are right and the cab fits over it :lol:
Anyway here's a couple of pix of the placement
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:D and yes that is the work of art bellhousing in there, I'll be swoping that out when I pull this all out to weld the mounts properly.... and the new one arrives with the other toys :wink:

Oh well thats it for now, hopefully have some more pix of the finished mounts tomorrow night 8) might skip a few hrs sleep and see what I can do :lol:

Cheers Reece
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:D looking good bro

but would you please hurry up and finish it :roll:
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nice work D-R so when are we gona have a play up some of youre skid tracks :P

you got a maddil to pull me up :P
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That bell housing looked great, in a Frankenstein kinda way ~:-(
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when are we gona have a play up some of youre skid tracks
you got a maddil to pull me up

Been talking with a local trust off and on for a while about 4WD trips and possibly a park... now with a bit of luck I'll have my bully up there way over winter 8) a few extra tracks might just pop up
But before this happens I want a truck I can play with :lol: as for the maddil :lol: no thanks, to many headaches with big crews :(

That bell housing looked great, in a Frankenstein kinda way

:lol: just makes me a bit nervis, done all this work on the motor gearbox and the truck and I'm gona over power the motor...... I know it'll hold had enough very experianced welders look it over and they're happy but :roll: :? its the thought of all this work on the line... bugger it piece of mind 8)

:roll: Yes I know Ben, hopefully I'll have some more time to work on it... hopefully :lol:

I'll have some more pics of the engine mounts and the new gearbox Xmember hopefully tomorrow, Oh and started sorting the axle wrap brace :wink: a little bit outside the sqaure with this one 8)

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:oops: Stuff on the way this week... gotta go see the man and get the bellhousing for you... All sitting here ready to go. Honest :P

Looking good... I think from looking you have the motor at about the right height, maybe a touch high, but that will mean you can keep the suspension low at rest without the tie rod hitting the sump.

Have you moved the alternator up out of harms way? Its a bugger to change in the factory position when not if it craps out.

Put the PS pump where the alt is and vice versa... brackets not too hard to make...

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This is Conans and the alt bracket I mad... just some 10mm plate shaped around to two forward exhaust bracket studs/bolts (can't remember) with some 40mm box welded to it then some plate off that and a slightly modified alternator adjuster for tightening it.

Looking good... love that bellhousing... I'd use it happily (I might need it for a project soon if you don't want it any more :P )

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Cheers Steve
Yes I will do that but I need my shed back for some other projects so my priority is to get the Lemon on its feet and able to be rolled out :roll: work calls

Anyway I've finished the gearbox X member .... decided to go with a drop out style one just in case I have to pull it out but I needed a good solid support for my track bar mounts (yet to come.... :roll: ) This is what I came up with
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Now that the motor is sitting happily, gona set the rear end in

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Post by Rangielux »

Yeap that looks strong enough to me :!:

Very nice
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Post by SupraSurf »

Choice.. lookin tidy

Small mod tho, change the bolts that hold the transfercase mount to countersunk capscrews so you won't wipe them out if you belly on a rock.

Also agree with Steve, but go a step further and replace the factory alt with a better one, I used a Bosch 100amp from an old Audi and toss the Supra power steer pump and use a Lux diesel pump + remote
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Post by krawlr »

yep youre obviously goin for a bit of rock work with that combo :lol:

and yep countersunk or loose em my mate stripped his off last weekend luckly didnt take them all out ,so we made it home ok....


but looking good d-r and theres some nice engineering happening so keep the pics comming..
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:shock: :D Counter sunk caps, good thinking will do that

You guy so a bit of rock work is it worth garding up around the X member???

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yeah make sure youre trannys covered well even 5m.m plate just for the simple reason that jap cast alloy is very weak and the rocks will always win :wink:

but if youve always got a mate for a spotter you prob wont need guarding as much....i like it cos i cant drive :?

the best way to go would be flat bellying it but that is a fkn big mod man.....
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:? Now I know I'm new to rock crawlin but a flat bottom when you've got drive shafts sticking down on such an extreme angle it seem like over kill and extra balast for nothing ...
I was looking at mounting the other transfercase mount and running a gard up to that and out and up the back of the box... thank for that I'll do that now

8) one of the things was thinking about (sparked by one to many woody's :lol: ) was running track bars down both sides of the drive shafts and putting a skid plate across to protect the drive shafts .... a bit of stupidity was thinking of ways to beat toitoi bushes very nasty things them!!

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Post by SupraLux »

Looking damn fine... as for those bolts, don't countersink those ones... make a 6 or 8mm bash plate at 90 degrees to the crossmember that protects under the front output of the transfer case, drill 4 holes for the gearbox mount bolts to sit inside - that protects them. Also drill a hole for the main safety bolt through the mount, which protects this as well. Use countersinks for the bash plate

If you just countersink the gearbox mount bolts then you still have that big-ass safety bolt through the mount sitting in the breeze... and if you smack the edge of THAT on a rock you're gonna wish you had that bashplate anyhow :P


Keep going, looks good :)

Steve
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