I've lost 4wd, And alternator

[86-surf]

Well last weekend found some mud holes, and hills on the side of the road, decided to give it a go. So yup did it a few times then went to do it again. all i herd was clank! and that was the end of 4wd... was still in low box but only the rear wheels were spinning, The cv's apear to be fine so does the front drive shaft, the auto hubs seem to be in one piece to.

So im thinking that the diff is F@#@#@ or the transfer case.

any other possible things to check?.


last night the truck wouldn't start so we had to push start it, At 1st i thought it was just because the radio was on when the truck was off, So i disconnected the radio and amp, push started it drove a round a bit turned it off and went to turn it back on still no power in the battery, push started it again left it running and disconnected the battery, the truck turns off, so from what i've been told this is something to do with the alternator, correct?

Cheers.

[madaz068]

When its in 4wd jump under with handbrake on and turn front drive shalf. If it turns and you know the hubs are in something in diff, if it doesnt something in transfer

[86-surf]

CAn you please clear that up for me.... didn't make much sense to me?

[curly12]

CAn you please clear that up for me.... didn't make much sense to me?

Get off the computer, go out to wagon, place transfer case in 4wd low, put gearbox into 1st, drive forward 10ft to enagage front hubs, turn off, leave in gear, get underneath and see if you can turn the driveshaft by hand, if it does turn then it will be a gearbox problem, if not then jack-up front end and see if you can spin the wheels and if the drive shaft turns, also listen for noise as it maybe an axle

Good work on your spelling also dude

[turoa]

it will be the front diff for sure

[86-surf]

i may as well just keep the surf as a show pony, and go buy an old solid axle hilux or somthing:(.

[Sadam_Husain]

i may as well just keep the surf as a show pony, and go buy an old solid axle Cruiser or somthing:(.

Yep good thinking Jase

Its probably not a major to fix, there must be a shitload of cheap IFS diffs around the place?

[badnuz]

have you found the alternator yet?

are you going to buy a crusier Jase???

huh huh are ya?

[bopsurfer]

I'll bet my left one it's your diff, I'm on my third IFS diff they are as weak as shit.

[rangimotors]

if your going to run big tyres you need a front locker only cost 500-600 and not only save you changing diffs all the time they also make a surf a hell of a lot better off road.

[nzhunter]

im pretty sure ive got a couple of IFS front diffs hanging round here ones 4.55 ratio the other 4.3 ratio going cheeeeaappp.

check your auto hubs are working, i had heaps of problems with my auto ones on my old surf then i changed to manual ones........waaaayyy better!!


DAN

[86-surf]

i would love to by a diff bro. but im jobless at the moment and am waiting for one of the jobs i applied at to accept me. but so far havn't herd from any of them:(

[skid]

when you get a job and save lots of money and if you still have the POS, and you want to strengthen the front end, send me a PM, and I'll put you in touch with a guy in Taupo who can transplant a 8" diff head into your independent front and you should not have any issues afterwards as he did it to his with a lexus V8 powering it.


and as curly said, great spelling dude and trucks looking good.

[Jerry]

I have a rebuilt 2Lte alternator in the garage which may fit a 2Lt? if you need one

[86-surf]

when you get a job and save lots of money and if you still have the POS, and you want to strengthen the front end, send me a PM, and I'll put you in touch with a guy in Taupo who can transplant a 8" diff head into your independent front and you should not have any issues afterwards as he did it to his with a lexus V8 powering it.


and as curly said, great spelling dude and trucks looking good.

Cheers skid... do you know how much it will cost?

I won't have diff problems, just cv problems then.
I'm now thinking about going solid axle to....

[taz01]

jerrys alt will fit but wiring slightly different ...do the brakes work ok when running if they do your vacuum pump on the back of alt is ok if not they are hard as to stop ya truck its buggered .....and last follow the vacuum hoses from diff 2 of em and see if still connected they eventually go to the alt .......otherwise ya diffs gone they're not as weak as some say they are but if ya need a 4.3 come get it to you free....im up that way this weekend but no room in car for anything.....

[86-surf]

the brakes seem fine.. altho they have been getting hard to push and then soft lately.

How different is the wiring?.

I wont be coming to get it because i have no vehicle to get there and back in, but i will be happy to pay for freight as long as i can talk mum into giving me a loan...


Cheers for your help and what not guys.. really appreciate your help

[Kiwimidi]

jerrys alt will fit but wiring slightly different ...do the brakes work ok when running if they do your vacuum pump on the back of alt is ok if not they are hard as to stop ya truck its buggered .....and last follow the vacuum hoses from diff 2 of em and see if still connected they eventually go to the alt otherwise ya diffs gone they're not as weak as some say they are but if ya need a 4.3 come get it to you free....im up that way this weekend but no room in car for anything.....

this is interesting has it just chucked a altenator belt?? i know it sounds simple but that could explain both faults as the vacume pump connects the 4wd in the ifs (ln130). I blew a front diff in my 130 surf went with a big bang took 2 teeth off the ring gear could really feel it when driving in 4wd.

[86-surf]

nope i checked the belt it still there..

[MATT4U]

jases 4wd isnt vacume operated like the newer ones. the 2ltE altinator will fit however its internally regulated so wiring is quite different.

Jase, the contacts on your altinator come out the side, you can remove them while its still in the truck. 9 times outta 10 they are just full of mud and need a quick cleen. and ya 4wd. your running 35's on ifs, what did you expect to happen.

[taz01]

ok so not add 4wd picking youve broken a half shaft.......the axle bit into the diff and bolts to cv ....or spat the spiders gears

[stinky]

Intresting to see a certain taz posting on here at 3pm

[taz01]

add daylight saving boss...........

[sig]

you're not keeping him busy enough stinky .must be time for the workshop bitch to make everyone a coffee

[Sadam_Husain]

you're not keeping him busy enough stinky .must be time for the workshop bitch to make everyone a coffee

Nah hes been plenty busy working on my truck today

[86-surf]

Well alternator is fixed, garage guy didn't say what was wrong with it.

And it is not the diff that is stuffed.. I'm pritty sure that it is just the right auto hub, i put the rear on jack stands and put the jack under the front got it so wheels just off the ground put it in 4wd, and let the clutch out and had a wee it of an inspection.

Front left cv wasn't spinning, front right was, so I'm hopping that its just the auto hub that let go.

Does any one have some manual ones they don't want any more?

cheers

[Jerry]

Nick (madaz068) might have some since he's wrecking 3 surfs .... come over this weekend to the whanga rd trip and pick them up....

[86-surf]

haha won't be going any where.. my front left wheel just exploaded.
And I'm going fishing this weekend with my mate and her dads 75ft boat:D