A Classic is Reborn

[Petemcc]

where are the vids db!!!

[petefj40]

where are the vids db!!!

X2.

[DieselBoy]

Crappy vid, but the best i got at the moment:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v492/ ... guts-1.flv

Its been sitting up on the hoist for the last week waiting for the gearbox to come back from Marshall Transmissons. Its getting a rebuild and a shift kit

Also took the opportunity to tidy up the transfercase oil leaks and track down a high volume baffled and gated sump, extended oil pick up and high volume oil pump. Still trying to find a Felpro 1 piece sump gasket so i can fit it all

Should be up and running again by next weekend

[DieselBoy]

Another vid, not much better, but i gotta get out there and use to get some decent ones

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v492/ ... rguts2.flv

Still good value though

[mercutio]

it sounds great

[DieselBoy]

Well, i have been busy getting aquainted with the truck, i've been to a couple of events and done a few easy bush trips and a few hours playing around at home putting it into all sorts of dum places and getting myself into all sorts of trouble

A few things that were in need of attention/improvement came up.

First up was the gearbox. Its a THM400, and it wouldn't pick up third and was a quite slow into reverse. No problem, there's heaps on trademe .

I brought a good one, but no one told me there are 12 variations in tail shafts on these tranny's, and it turned mine had a very rare 27 splibe 15" long shaft

I ended up re-selling that trans and got mine rebuilt, and got a re-program kit installed that converted it to a full manual shift. Marshal Transmissions in Hamilton turned it round in a week and did anawesome job, they even rebuilt the adaptor for me. Very Kool

So thats all in and running well (apart from the idiot at Repco that sold me heater hose instead of transmission cooler hose, and its all gone squishy and soft )

Turns out the transfercase is from a G60 patrol, not a Dana 18 as i originally thought BTW

The next on the list was the to get the engine breathing better. Now its starting to run in, its making good power, but not as much as it could/should.

There's a slight compression issue on one cyclinder, but i'm not loosing sleep over that at this stage.

What is bugging me is that at about 3500rpm its all on and thats as good as it gets, it will rev to 5000rpm, but it just makes a cool noise, but no more power. I have spent a bit of time playin with the LPG set up, but didn't get far. Basically,

NOT ENOUGH FUEL AND AIR

This is the problem:


Its the little tiny 2 barrel Throttle Body and LPG mixer thats letting the side down:


So i got this to sort it out once and for all:


I didn't think to take pic's when it was in piece's while i was cleaning it up (cheer's Wopass for the Bling blast on the manifold), but its a Impco 300A Mixer on a 4 Barrel Throttle Body, onto a Edelbrock Performer dual plain intake manifold.


That should make it pull some numbers on the Tacho

Worst part of it is that my nice shiny freshly painted bonnet is gonna have to be cut and chopped to take a monster bonnet scoop to fit it all underneath

[lilpigzuk]

Turns out the transfercase is from a G60 patrol, not a Dana 18 as i originally thought BTW

hmm, think I know where a G60 T/c is too

[DieselBoy]

Turns out the transfercase is from a G60 patrol, not a Dana 18 as i originally thought BTW

hmm, think I know where a G60 T/c is too

Lol, ooooh, yes please!!!!!!

Diff's to i hope

[lilpigzuk]

um, yeah Im sure they still kicking round, is/was out of a 1969 G60, powered by a 1970 307 chev will see the old man in a few days

[DieselBoy]

Sweet, all the running gear is G60, so some spare CV's an axles would be welcome, they getting hard to find!!!!!

[lilpigzuk]

I thought it was MQ, not G60, Mother may cut you a deal if pops aint about

[DieselBoy]

I thought it was MQ, not G60, Mother may cut you a deal if pops aint about

So did I, but apparently it all came from the 1 donar vehicle, so if the T.Case is G60, the rest will be

[lilpigzuk]

I thought it was MQ, not G60, Mother may cut you a deal if pops aint about

So did I, but apparently it all came from the 1 donar vehicle, so if the T.Case is G60, the rest will be

you poor bastard we got a HD rear diff/axle setup from tractor spares north of town (cant remember name, back when they were big landy wreckers )

anyway, enough bantering, god forbid we get told to take this to PM

[timotheus]

Worst part of it is that my nice shiny freshly painted bonnet is gonna have to be cut and chopped to take a monster bonnet scoop to fit it all underneath

Measure it up and see if this fits, 86-Surf backed out of the auction I ran a couple of months ago and I havent got round to relisting it. Might be what you need.



Dang. Its been that long that the photos off my listing have gone, they were better than that one off tardeme.
Anywho, its 900mm long, 400(i think wide) and 90mm tall.

Have a think, they look fantastic on pretty much anything.

[Jafa]

I think I have a full service manual for that model patrol on cd somewhere, if ya want a copy flick me a pm

[DieselBoy]

Worst part of it is that my nice shiny freshly painted bonnet is gonna have to be cut and chopped to take a monster bonnet scoop to fit it all underneath

Measure it up and see if this fits, 86-Surf backed out of the auction I ran a couple of months ago and I havent got round to relisting it. Might be what you need.



Dang. Its been that long that the photos off my listing have gone, they were better than that one off tardeme.
Anywho, its 900mm long, 400(i think wide) and 90mm tall.

Have a think, they look fantastic on pretty much anything.

Yeah man, is that the A9X Torana Scoop ??

Thats what i have got ready to fit

[timotheus]

Yeah man, is that the A9X Torana Scoop ??

Thats what i have got ready to fit

Yeah, we bought one to fit to a mates nana spec VN as a joke, another 'mate' let him in on it. Now its sitting proud by my dinner table....

Sorry for the jack.

Anyone keen?

Tim.

[MNC]

Yeah, we bought one to fit to a mates nana spec VN as a joke, another 'mate' let him in on it. Now its sitting proud by my dinner table....

Sorry for the jack.

Anyone keen?

Tim.

How muchy?

[DieselBoy]

Yeah, we bought one to fit to a mates nana spec VN as a joke, another 'mate' let him in on it. Now its sitting proud by my dinner table....

Sorry for the jack.

Anyone keen?

Tim.

How muchy?

You need a bigger scoop than that to fit over a blower Matt

[MNC]

How muchy?

You need a bigger scoop than that to fit over a blower Matt

was thinking more to let hot air out of the engine bay - Got a problem with the 350 getting a little hot in the cruiser... Just one possible option to assist get overall temp down, don't actually think I could bring myself to cut up my newly painted bonnet

Now you've gone and put idea's in my head Would prob look to replace heads and intake first but not supposed to be doing anything to this truck before finishing the Lexus

[skid]

I had one of those reverse mounted scoop thingys on orange.

funny thing was, before I put it on, it was fine, but after I put it on, I had an overheating problem, but only on the open road.

In the bush it was fine but open road it got hot.


found out after I sold it, that a mate had the same issue and did some open road wind tunnel type of testing to determine tht the hot air escapes and the hits the windscreen and tries to go back where it came from, thus stopping any hot air coming out of engine bay and therefore causing it to overheat.

[petefj40]

I've had heating issues ever since I had the 5.7 put into my truck n all but not on the open road.
In my layman way of thinking I would of thought if you put a lot of venting at the top of the engine bay this would create most of the air to travel up. When it's natural path is to flow past the headers and down under the truck and out? Please excuse my backward way of thinking.

[Dr_PC]

I had one of those reverse mounted scoop thingys on orange.

funny thing was, before I put it on, it was fine, but after I put it on, I had an overheating problem, but only on the open road.

In the bush it was fine but open road it got hot.


found out after I sold it, that a mate had the same issue and did some open road wind tunnel type of testing to determine tht the hot air escapes and the hits the windscreen and tries to go back where it came from, thus stopping any hot air coming out of engine bay and therefore causing it to overheat.

A few years ago I ran an A9X scoop on the bonnet of my HQ. had to fit it to give clearance for the LPG. I also made a template and put flutes into the guards this dropped my engine temop by 10 degrees. What I did tho was that as these scoops are quite long I cut approx 4 inches off the back and move the scoop back that far from the front of the bonnet, looked far better. Of course the HQ screen was a little more aerodynamic that a crusier so that helped the air go over the top. We also put an A9X scoop onto a statesman and again never had heating issues with that and it was running a full Brock spec motor

[DieselBoy]

Interesting on the heating dynamic's there Skid. Could well work that way round if your using the scoop purely for engine bay ventilation.

The bonnent on the Guts is quite well designed, the center flat part of it is raised off the fire wall about 20mm, giving heaps of ventilation.

Under the scoop is just a round hole with the air cleaner sticking through it, its a snug fit so the engine is drawing the cooler outside air, which in theory prevents it from mixing with the hot air trying to escape through the scoop as it would if there was a big open square hole under there.

Catch is, to fit the A9X scoop, i'm probably gonna have to cut the out the old scoop, which will leave a square hole under the new scoop.

Ahwell, i'm not there yet with it, gotta swap the manifolds round, and i had a dilema with it the other night:


Thermostate housing removal, sheared off a bolt:


Got it out in the end:


A couple of other bits that have gone into it. Finally found a use for my ToughDog front GQ Patrol shocks that have been sitting in the shed for a couple of years. Perfect fit for the Guts, waaaay to short for a lifted Patrol




Plasma cable and a Hawse fairlead for my crappy Runva winch thats still not working properly:


A quick Vid showing what i'm on about with teh restrictive intake manifold and Mixer. This a giving it everything its got:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v492/ ... Bogrun.flv

Sounds like i'm taking it easy doesn't it

[timotheus]

Yeah, we bought one to fit to a mates nana spec VN as a joke, another 'mate' let him in on it. Now its sitting proud by my dinner table....

Sorry for the jack.

Anyone keen?

Tim.

How muchy?

$75 plus p&p.

Tim.

[NJV6]

Plasma cable and a Hawse fairlead for my crappy Runva winch thats still not working properly:

Why is it not working properly?

[skid]

Interesting on the heating dynamic's there Skid. Could well work that way round if your using the scoop purely for engine bay ventilation.

it first had standard bonnet and no inner guards, then purely for wank factor I decided to add the scoop to the fibreglass front end and put inner guards back in for the mud and it meant that the scoop was the only outlet for airflow.

I never thought of it as stopping the air flow, but the guy that had the same problem is a very clever chap and his word is never a lie. He put angled pieces in the hood scoop to direct air out the sides slightly and he also added some vents down the bottom in front of the factory toyota vent flaps on the footwell kick panels. It did the trick and cooled it down from then on.

It never bothered me too much as it was trailered, but if it was a roadie then I'd be concerned.

just more useful info for anyone thinking of a scoop on a flat screened vehicle.

SKID

[MNC]

$75 plus p&p. Tim.

That seams blodly reasonable but if what Skid says is true it may not be of any use to me - sorry.

[skid]

$75 plus p&p. Tim.

That seams blodly reasonable but if what Skid says is true it may not be of any use to me - sorry.

find pics of mine and see wot ya think and if ya want, I can find pics of other truck to show ya wot he did

PM if interested, so Pete can have his thread back

[DieselBoy]

You guys are alright, its still good tech relevant to whats happening to my truck.

So far we have learnt that you can get a new fiber glass scoop for about $75 from the right person, and that you gotta be carefull putting a scoop for ventilation purposes on a truck with a flat windscreen as it can do some weird shit