Right, done the pass side also now . Noticed the seals are knackered on both sides so that is now on the list (bugger) as well as the bearings (bigger bugger), but I'll wait until I stuff them completely. Had another play with the front brakes and I am convinced I have stuffed up bleeding the M/C or it is stuffed. Cant pump the brake pedal up hard at all. Any hints on bleeding the M/C?
I hear through the grape vine a disk kit is in the works for us vit/scud guys so I'll just make do for now with the little drum rears and swap when the disks are avaliable.
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Hey, re the brakes this may sound stupid but is the mesh liner inthe resiviour clean? It doesn't take a lot to gunk them up and prevent any real amount of fluid getting to the master cylinder. Just a thought.
Toy - Zuk chassis tub, hilux 4.88 axles and transfer, Nissan CA18DE motor and auto trans, sc12 supercharger, 32 10'5 simex, twin motor 8274 custom freespool. Well the parts are all there in various corners of the shed
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meatc wrote:Hey, re the brakes this may sound stupid but is the mesh liner inthe resiviour clean? It doesn't take a lot to gunk them up and prevent any real amount of fluid getting to the master cylinder. Just a thought.
Yeah nice and clean. I think I will have to rebleed the MC and start agin.
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Took out the wiring loom from the zuk. Stripped it back to about 1/3rd of its wires and will reinstall it tomorrow when it stops raining. Also removed the fuse box and put in a 4 slot fuse box, didnt need all the rest as most of the stuff from it was gone. Just got to find a click clack type box and remount the ecu and relays in that and the fuses on the side. it will then be mounted as high up under the dash as I can get it with access through where the centre console (heater radio etc( was. then its just a few gauges to see what need to be seen, some switches for ignition etc and a little bit of cable for the battery to sort (gotta see a sparky about crimping the cables), oh yeah and mount the battery box when i decide where it is going. Might just leave it "floating" in the rear until I source a fuel cell and mount them side by side.
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Hey Heath not much to go now, when are ya planning on christening
this beast of yours?
this beast of yours?
"It's a Suzuki thing - you wouldn't understand !"
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Okay, spent today fiddling and reinstalling the loom. I admit to being a little nervous when I turned the key again, but it fired and ran so I didn't stuff up (too badly). Shifted the main fuses in the engine bay to the firewall, just to get some extra length of cables for under the dash.
Measured up and cut my expensive new power cable. Going to run a straight line from the pos terminal to the starter motor stud, from there a cable will run up to the 60 amp fuse (reconnecting the battery with the alternator circuit). The negative line will have a short lead to a switch mounted on the new battery box (terminals on the inside) and then a lead from the switch to the chassis (one of the main hoop bolts to be exact). I have put the old negative lead up onto the firewall and all the earths from the engine loom go directly to that. I will fit another short lead from the engine to the chassis (engine mount bolts and chassis mount bolts). Just got to go and get the cable terminated (and get a few extra terminals), so I will visit a sparky tomorrow and see what I can get done.
Of course all these cables will need some protection where they run through the bodywork and over stuff so I will have to get some cable shroud (or whatever) and some cable clips for the main line from the pos battery to the starter as it runs inside the cab.
Once that is done and it runs I can sort the new ignition circuit (have the push button already) and a switch for the ignition so I can have power off and the battery live. Might investigate one of those little solar panels to trickle charge the battery when it is switched off and sitting idle.
Then its just exhaust, hubs, seats, fuel cell & pump, electric fan,waterproof the electrics, relocate the air intake and filter to under the dash, bars, etc. But I am getting there. Some of this stuff is wish list not have to be done stuff.
So the short answer to your question Al is ... um ... buggered if I know but I hope within the next couple of months, just depends on finances staying healthy for a little longer.
Heath
Measured up and cut my expensive new power cable. Going to run a straight line from the pos terminal to the starter motor stud, from there a cable will run up to the 60 amp fuse (reconnecting the battery with the alternator circuit). The negative line will have a short lead to a switch mounted on the new battery box (terminals on the inside) and then a lead from the switch to the chassis (one of the main hoop bolts to be exact). I have put the old negative lead up onto the firewall and all the earths from the engine loom go directly to that. I will fit another short lead from the engine to the chassis (engine mount bolts and chassis mount bolts). Just got to go and get the cable terminated (and get a few extra terminals), so I will visit a sparky tomorrow and see what I can get done.
Of course all these cables will need some protection where they run through the bodywork and over stuff so I will have to get some cable shroud (or whatever) and some cable clips for the main line from the pos battery to the starter as it runs inside the cab.
Once that is done and it runs I can sort the new ignition circuit (have the push button already) and a switch for the ignition so I can have power off and the battery live. Might investigate one of those little solar panels to trickle charge the battery when it is switched off and sitting idle.
Then its just exhaust, hubs, seats, fuel cell & pump, electric fan,waterproof the electrics, relocate the air intake and filter to under the dash, bars, etc. But I am getting there. Some of this stuff is wish list not have to be done stuff.
So the short answer to your question Al is ... um ... buggered if I know but I hope within the next couple of months, just depends on finances staying healthy for a little longer.
Heath
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suzookyman wrote:Hey Heath not much to go now, when are ya planning on christening
this beast of yours?
Nice little pic there of your new beast I assume. How's it going?
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goin good, new front diff in,lost use of clutch last time out but came back
half hour later-buggered if i know wot happened there!, do you need seats? i got a
set here if you want them
Al
half hour later-buggered if i know wot happened there!, do you need seats? i got a
set here if you want them
Al
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I have seats (the plastic racing kind) on the list of must haves (and of course the soft covers for my poor delicate ass and back) but they are somewhat down the list.
Good to hear your change of vehicles went quickly.
Good to hear your change of vehicles went quickly.
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Okay got the wiring done today. went to JA Russel and got the last couple of crimps I needed and used their crimper (saved me a few $$$) in the car park to crimp all the terminals on.
Got home wired it all up but didn't test it as i had the loom still apart so I could mount the ecu up higher and in a waterproof box. What a pain finding a box that it would fit in was. Ended up with one too big but at least it gives me room for other stuff later (if need be).
Took a bit of fiddling (made up a mount to hold the rear of the box and used the mounts for the ecu to hold some bolts that went through the top of the dash (a bit ugly but it works). All waterproofed with some gasket maker (couldn't find my sealer mastic), it'll do the job. Just have to remember if the dash has to be moved I have to remove the mounting bracket screws first (or I will damage the box). A few screws to replace in the dash to hold it all firmly in place and thats done.
Still using the ignition key for now but will rig up the on off switch and push start when I get time.
Battery is now at the back in a box (have to tidy the cable up a little with some holders) with a switch to the earth side so I can isolate the battery. Got a surprise when I tried it out with the engine running tonight, switched off the earth and the engine kept running. Even with the battery isolated from the circuit - How the Feck does that happen? Shouldn't this kill everything?
Got a few holes to patch over the next few days (nice easy job) and some rust to remove (just paint it with rust kill and forget it - getting a new body eventually anyway).
Thats it for now, pics to follow.
Got home wired it all up but didn't test it as i had the loom still apart so I could mount the ecu up higher and in a waterproof box. What a pain finding a box that it would fit in was. Ended up with one too big but at least it gives me room for other stuff later (if need be).
Took a bit of fiddling (made up a mount to hold the rear of the box and used the mounts for the ecu to hold some bolts that went through the top of the dash (a bit ugly but it works). All waterproofed with some gasket maker (couldn't find my sealer mastic), it'll do the job. Just have to remember if the dash has to be moved I have to remove the mounting bracket screws first (or I will damage the box). A few screws to replace in the dash to hold it all firmly in place and thats done.
Still using the ignition key for now but will rig up the on off switch and push start when I get time.
Battery is now at the back in a box (have to tidy the cable up a little with some holders) with a switch to the earth side so I can isolate the battery. Got a surprise when I tried it out with the engine running tonight, switched off the earth and the engine kept running. Even with the battery isolated from the circuit - How the Feck does that happen? Shouldn't this kill everything?
Got a few holes to patch over the next few days (nice easy job) and some rust to remove (just paint it with rust kill and forget it - getting a new body eventually anyway).
Thats it for now, pics to follow.
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does the motor still have the alernator on it and wired up????
truckless and shall remain so till she who wears the pants says otherwise.................lol
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wgtnnewbie wrote:does the motor still have the alernator on it and wired up????
Yep. That was the problem when I Isolated the battery the alternator became the power source. I will fit a big stop button eventually to use as a kill switch but for now the ignition will stay in use and the isolator will just isolate the battery when not required (like when the vehicle is 'resting' on a trailer, etc).
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Okay got a little more done today.
Wired in the fan, relay, fuses etc. Bit of a bugger as I didn't have the relay fitting diagram any more but no worries I figured it out with a small 12 v battery, some jumpers and my voltmeter. I wired in the fuse for the fan into the spare slot in the engine bay fuse holder. Couldn't get a blade connector big enough to fit the holder so took out the blade and made it smaller so it would fit a connector I had. Looks neat and tidy. I went with a fuse between the relay and the switch as I had one already and it will protect the ignition circuit if the relay gets stuffed and shorts out (hopefully). All seems to be running great switch the switch on the dash and the relay clicks providing 12v to the fan... just the fan doesn't go.
BUGGER, now it would appear the fan is stuffed so add that to the list. Although the wiring is there (fitted a plug to the end of the cable for the fan for easy of swapping etc) so it just has to be fitted (when I get one).
So next question is what fan size should I look for and what is everyone else using?
Oh yeah here are some pics of my playing.
Pink fuse is the 30 amp one for the relay (which is a 40 amp one). Note the common earth point to the right of the fuse box, that connects to the old battery earth cable which goes to the engine, on the other side of the engine I have another earth from the engine to the chassis. The fuse box is now on the fire wall.
Battery box and switch, earth lead goes down roll bar to chassis and shares a mounting bolt. Need to patch the overly generous holes cut for the cage (might just use rubber mats and rivets). Battery also has a hold down bar for extra security.
Here is the new ECU position, up high and water proof. well apart from the hole the cables run through but it is hose and rain proof but not drown in 4 feet of water proof. If it gets wet I have big problems. You can see the rear mounts that I thought might stabilize the whole thing a little more. Can see the new fuse box mounted to the 'top' also.
Another shot showing position behind console, which is yet to be finished (Bent the ally sheet but nothing else). Tonnes of room in there for anything else that I want to water proof.
Wired in the fan, relay, fuses etc. Bit of a bugger as I didn't have the relay fitting diagram any more but no worries I figured it out with a small 12 v battery, some jumpers and my voltmeter. I wired in the fuse for the fan into the spare slot in the engine bay fuse holder. Couldn't get a blade connector big enough to fit the holder so took out the blade and made it smaller so it would fit a connector I had. Looks neat and tidy. I went with a fuse between the relay and the switch as I had one already and it will protect the ignition circuit if the relay gets stuffed and shorts out (hopefully). All seems to be running great switch the switch on the dash and the relay clicks providing 12v to the fan... just the fan doesn't go.
BUGGER, now it would appear the fan is stuffed so add that to the list. Although the wiring is there (fitted a plug to the end of the cable for the fan for easy of swapping etc) so it just has to be fitted (when I get one).
So next question is what fan size should I look for and what is everyone else using?
Oh yeah here are some pics of my playing.
Pink fuse is the 30 amp one for the relay (which is a 40 amp one). Note the common earth point to the right of the fuse box, that connects to the old battery earth cable which goes to the engine, on the other side of the engine I have another earth from the engine to the chassis. The fuse box is now on the fire wall.
Battery box and switch, earth lead goes down roll bar to chassis and shares a mounting bolt. Need to patch the overly generous holes cut for the cage (might just use rubber mats and rivets). Battery also has a hold down bar for extra security.
Here is the new ECU position, up high and water proof. well apart from the hole the cables run through but it is hose and rain proof but not drown in 4 feet of water proof. If it gets wet I have big problems. You can see the rear mounts that I thought might stabilize the whole thing a little more. Can see the new fuse box mounted to the 'top' also.
Another shot showing position behind console, which is yet to be finished (Bent the ally sheet but nothing else). Tonnes of room in there for anything else that I want to water proof.
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Fan sorted. Pulls like a school boy now (the fan that is).
Pics of course below, took about 20 mins to fit (I had the wiring all done already). The kit had everything except the male connection for the fan plug. Cut it off and use another plug I had here. went with a 14 inch fan (fits nicely).
Tonnes of room there and when I tape up the plug it should be awesome. Just have to get a blind to fit the front now and thats the cooling system done.
Pics of course below, took about 20 mins to fit (I had the wiring all done already). The kit had everything except the male connection for the fan plug. Cut it off and use another plug I had here. went with a 14 inch fan (fits nicely).
Tonnes of room there and when I tape up the plug it should be awesome. Just have to get a blind to fit the front now and thats the cooling system done.
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Okay did the brakes yesterday. The master cylinder has a fault but I swapped in another one and it bled up quick as.
Drove it on the drive to test the brakes and discovered I cant get it into 4wd so I guess the dog clutch or whatever is out of sync so I will lift the front wheels and spin the front drive shaft while trying to get it in gear. If that doesnt work then I guess I have found another problem - Bugger - just when I thought I was making progress.
Drove it on the drive to test the brakes and discovered I cant get it into 4wd so I guess the dog clutch or whatever is out of sync so I will lift the front wheels and spin the front drive shaft while trying to get it in gear. If that doesnt work then I guess I have found another problem - Bugger - just when I thought I was making progress.
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Ordered a set of Manual Aisin hubs (and a spare) and some cone washers last night so hopefully they will arrive for the weekend. Will do pic's etc of fitting.
Bent up a bash plate for the lower front radiator/power steering lines today at work, will try and fit it during the weekend also.
Heath
Bent up a bash plate for the lower front radiator/power steering lines today at work, will try and fit it during the weekend also.
Heath
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shore round not far away 
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lilpigzuk wrote:shore round not far away
Yep. might be ready (might not be too).
Am aiming for Laurie Sansons in march for a test drive at the very latest.
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Got the new manual hubs on (sweet and easy - not finished yet but only a few minutes work to do when I get a couple of big washers).
Decided to tackle the transfere case issue with it not working properly. Spent two or so hours cursing and trying different things but the box will have to come out I think. To put it mildly I am really FU#KED off.
Is it possible to remove just the transefer case and replace it or does the whole gearbox have to come off?
I am at the point where taking it into and open feild and giving this thing a viking's funeral is looking mighty good. It would seem I bought a lemon. I guess thats what you get for buying without seeing and testing (although it did have a bung engine so I wouldnt have been able to drive it anyway). Buyer beware I guess.
Although if the wife makes another smart ass comment about not checking before buying she may be the driver at the flame fest!!!
Right I am off for a calming beer.
Heath
Decided to tackle the transfere case issue with it not working properly. Spent two or so hours cursing and trying different things but the box will have to come out I think. To put it mildly I am really FU#KED off.
Is it possible to remove just the transefer case and replace it or does the whole gearbox have to come off?
I am at the point where taking it into and open feild and giving this thing a viking's funeral is looking mighty good. It would seem I bought a lemon. I guess thats what you get for buying without seeing and testing (although it did have a bung engine so I wouldnt have been able to drive it anyway). Buyer beware I guess.
Although if the wife makes another smart ass comment about not checking before buying she may be the driver at the flame fest!!!
Right I am off for a calming beer.
Heath
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Re: A Class Vitara, POS.
Hey Heath, hows the progress goin?
got the box sorted?..how easy was it to move the ecu,was there
enough play in the wires just to move it or did you have to extend them
Al
got the box sorted?..how easy was it to move the ecu,was there
enough play in the wires just to move it or did you have to extend them
Al
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suzookyman wrote:Hey Heath, hows the progress goin?
got the box sorted?..how easy was it to move the ecu,was there
enough play in the wires just to move it or did you have to extend them
Al
Didnt really extend anything just removed all the wiring clips and jigglerd everything. Would've been better to rewire I think (or extend the wires).
Gear box is stand still at the moment as I have been away for the weekend and will try to sort it next weekend.
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Will it be ready for this season
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Not sure. Hit a few financial snags and a buggered gearbox (t case actually) and to top it all off now have my arm in a splint as I damaged the cartilage in my wrist (started the probelm changing an engine in a BMW and then made it worse later doing stuff outside round the house). Could be another month of being imobilised before I start physio and then if that doesnt work I have to have an op. Worst thing is that ACC may not cover all of it so my spending until this is sorted is halted(well until I get through the physio at lest then I can make a decision).
I'm still plugging away at little bites that I can manage when I can though, so it isnt dead ... just ... sleeping. Still have hopes that all will be ready for at least one round this season.
Heath
I'm still plugging away at little bites that I can manage when I can though, so it isnt dead ... just ... sleeping. Still have hopes that all will be ready for at least one round this season.
Heath
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hope you come right soon mate- thought you had taken the pos out the back and shot it!
Al
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suzookyman wrote:hope you come right soon mate- thought you had taken the pos out the back and shot it!
Al
thought about it often enough. Finished Uni for now so can waste time (as the wife so elequently puts it) on the junk pile. little jobs I guess, fill headlights and tail light holes, makr radiator cover, that sort of thing.
I'll get there, just slowly.
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Heath wrote:now have my arm in a splint as I damaged the cartilage in my wrist (started the problem ........)
Heath
How
Well you could always suggest to your wife that she could always help out on the POS or get another job to use up the spare hours in the day, THEN she wouldn't notice you Making such supreme sacrifices and putting up with great amounts of pain struggling to get it ready for the season
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Dr_PC wrote:Heath wrote:now have my arm in a splint as I damaged the cartilage in my wrist (started the problem ........)
Heath
How
Well you could always suggest to your wife that she could always help out on the POS or get another job to use up the spare hours in the day, THEN she wouldn't notice you Making such supreme sacrifices and putting up with great amounts of pain struggling to get it ready for the season
I'd like to say I finished my arm off with some heroic effort at work defusing a bomb or something herculian, but in reality I finished it off pullstarting a line trimer
. The tendons were buggered during the engine install and then the pullstarter jaming and the resulting sharp bending of the wrist damaged the cartilage.As for the wife helping me ... are you nuts!
She wants to throw away all the goodies I have in the shed (she calls it junk - what does she know) and then there is all the little bits I buy everynow and again that I would have to explain. Funnily enough saying I saved a heap of money because something was on sale doesnt work, yet when the tables are turned I am expected to believe that line of bull without question.