DAMMIT ! another project/repair....

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:15 am

well there i was in the garage thismorning and thought to myself...

"hey i know, ill have a look to see which rubber mount ive torn as the transfer/G box/engine has been shoved by the rear drive shaft being too long and now i cant get it into low box".... :oops:

yea i measured wrong....

anyway, there i was under the cruiser looking at the bell housing mounts and saw this...

thought to myself... "Hmmm thats wierd..."

then looked a bit more and saw this...

said to myself... "well theres the problem"...."you fuking moron !...."

there was some more swearing and self abuse but i wont go into that here...

so here it is, another project... or repair ?

replace my old faithfull 3spd with a 4spd ?

or just fix/find another 3spd bell housing ?

DieselBoy · Post by **DieselBoy** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:46 am

Oh crap!!!!

Must have been a fair bit of force on that to make it crack, lest it happened when it had a trailer to get it home!!!!!!

De-Ranged · Post by **De-Ranged** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:19 pm

Damm!! You've done that well :lol:

Anything you replace it with is gona be project material as there's not tomany vintage parts place's out there

hey you got the vintage rego sorted yet

found ya a couple of options
First is... a bit pricy :shock:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 371457.htm

Or park a new playhut/parts wagon out back

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 950137.htm

Cheers Reece

SupraLux · Post by **SupraLux** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:47 am

bloody animal! :roll:

Nice work... I'd go the 4-speed... or mate up a 5-speed from a 70 into it...

Steve

krawlr · Post by **krawlr** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:48 am

throw away the 3spd and go with the 4 and this giving you the late and beefy split case transfer :!:

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and you obviously do some heavy towing in the bush do do that carnage or just old crap giving way?

let me know if you wana go 4spd ive got a mate with one and well even sell ya full floater rear :wink:

my favourite quote...DO IT ONCE DO IT WRIGHT...

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:05 am

krawlr wrote:throw away the 3spd and go with the 4 and this giving you the late and beefy split case transfer .

and you obviously do some heavy towing in the bush do do that carnage or just old crap giving way?

let me know if you wana go 4spd ive got a mate with one and well even sell ya full floater rear

my favourite quote...DO IT ONCE DO IT WRIGHT...

hey now

, do tell me more. if im to go for the 4spd i would need all of it including the transfer box and bell housing etc as from what info i have is the 3spd transfer wont fit the 4spd box ? and then il have to do something about my PTO as i dont think that will fit the 4spd transfer case ?

what sort of coin does your mate want for the bits ?

dont need a full floater tho, im going to be putting the 60's housings under it at some stage soon

as for towing, yea those damn nizzans are a heavy heap to tow..... :lol:

krawlr · Post by **krawlr** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:12 am

price.....il find out

and yes you will get the complete steup(bellhousing,tranny etc)

and correct youre early pto drive will not mesh with the late split case but you can also source them from later cruiser but thats another storey......

woopass its not just the capital of nz but its also cruiser capital down here bud :wink:

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:30 am

Hmmm.... another pto to try and find, was hard enough finding the one i have....and they not cheap :cry:

...ahh well, if it has to be then it has to be. wonder what the difference in the pto is ? what if i just get a gear machined up ? or are the pto units a totally different shape ?

sing out when you know a price mate then ill have to clear it with the boss :roll:

cheers

krawlr · Post by **krawlr** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:23 am

yes the pto drive a different shape bolt pattern etc................

youle find one for 100-150,then again i think ive got one at home next to my spare 4 spds

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:42 am

sounds like a plan maybe comming together...if you will part with your spare pto

...and as long as it clears price wise :wink:

and your mate will sell his bits

and they clear price wise :roll:

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:52 am

what would i need to do to make this fit ?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... ermanent=0

krawlr · Post by **krawlr** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:24 am

im pretty sure different output splines and i hated my h55 5spd im my v8 cruiser i liked the 4spd ratios better youre not on the stick as much comparring to the 5spd shown :wink:

the diesel and pertrol are both diffrent than that model shown and you wont top the 4spd for strength trust me man my fj is 0ver 300 horse easy :!:

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:45 am

sounds like good sound advice

will wait for the price on your mates parts and go from there.

give me a text if you like on 027 2705895 dont bother ringing me as my cell is a piece of shit and only really good for texting,think the ear piece has popped.... :roll:

ok ok ok, i may have dropped it a few too many times :lol:

off the car at over 50km :shock:

hehhehhe

krawlr · Post by **krawlr** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:53 am

sweet as mate il text or pm you :wink:

and as for the phone i think youre mrs uses that instead of the wooden spoon

and if all goes well FREE FREIGHT to youre youre door bro :wink:

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:56 pm

ok, so i now have a 4spd on its way to put into the missile (cheers krawlr)

but now i need to find a pto to fit the 4spd

anyone have one lying around ? know someone who has ?

because i do really need one :twisted:

MNC · Post by **MNC** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 11:19 pm

I`m looking 4 a winch for my FJ40 as well. Have the 4 speed box and like the power of the PTO but think it may just be easier to put an electric unit in. Maybe 12v 8000lb plus.

Have been told the PTO's can be a pain in the arse to fit to the FJ40's.

Anyway if you guys hear of a good winch for the $100 to $150 mark that is suitable I`d be keen also.

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:41 am

the pto winches are fkn awesum man and if you get a 40 series one they just bolt on. i managed to get my winch unit for $400 off a guy in taupo that had it on a recovery/tow truck then just had to make a drive shaft up for it and bolt it in, very easy to do and so much winch,

the 8000lb electric winch will be blowing its arse trying to pull the cruiser if your well stuck :twisted:

which you will be :wink:

. my pto just laughs at anything i throw at it :lol:

still havent had to double line any recoverys ive done yet,and i dont think i ever will

De-Ranged · Post by **De-Ranged** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:19 pm

electric unit in. Maybe 12v 8000lb plus.
good winch for the $100 to $150 mark

Your gona be waiting a while for one to come up at that price
A PTO winch second had is twice that and electric's around 4 times that at least :wink:

I'm with Ben, Go the PTO its just so much faster stronger .... hassle free

Cheers Reece

krawlr · Post by **krawlr** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:25 pm

yep theres only one good 12v 8000lb winch thats the warn 8274-50 but thats 2k

most of us own pto winches cos we learnt the hard and expensive way with those electrics(well i did)

what about a tirfor ?i carry both and have never left home without it :wink:

mercutio · Post by **mercutio** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:07 pm

i have to invest in a trifor as well for those times when the engine just won't go what is better though a trifor winch or highlift jack

MNC · Post by **MNC** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:03 am

Ok guys, I`m convinced - PTO it is.

Have a PTO on the front of my Safari but managed to blow the worm gear straight through the front of the housing :shock:

In saying that it got me and the boat out of some hairy situations

Will look to get a high lift & hand winch as well. Setting up is fun

but expensive

mudchuka · Post by **mudchuka** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:41 pm

i have a 8274-50 warn hi mount for sale but it is a 24v
new motor $850 027 292 1248.

MNC · Post by **MNC** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 12:01 pm

Thanks for the offer but think I`m going 2 get a PTO.

muddy · Post by **muddy** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:27 pm

How about a whole BJ60 - use the winch & keep the rest for parts...
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... d=54404542
I also had no trouble fitting a PTO - just had to shorten the D/S since it had come off a 60 series with 5spd box.

MNC · Post by **MNC** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:43 pm

Yeah, I`m looking at that 2 but might try and find another FJ as the body is shot on mine as well. Thanks.

DJ · Post by DJ » Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:19 pm

In saying that it got me and the boat out of some hairy situations

now I know that Dorklanders do things differently but taking your boat, 4wding .... thats interesting.....could be useful up thompsons track...... :wink:

you could use the boat to take the winch rope to the otherside of some of the puddles :lol:

MNC · Post by **MNC** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:11 am

Yeah, maybe I`ll start a new craze - Mud Boggin plus puddle surfing - at the same time. Sounds like fun. :wink:

Seriously though - The PTO winches have a heap of power. We pulled a 2 tonne boat right though sand above the axels on the trailer and at the same time managed to have the winch cable chew an inch through a 3mm plate of steel on the truck :oops:

Must get a new winch guy :lol:

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That is some real power (enough to make up for the dumb arse learning how to use it :lol:

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Ok, sorry no more talking about boats on a 4x4 site. Sorry Wopass, I seam to have taken this string way off topic.

Looking for a PTO winch (or two) off a 4spd Cruiser. Post a message if you guys know of any 4 sale.

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:04 pm

ok so you need a pto to fit your 4spd, i have learned some new stuff recently :wink:

the non split 4spd T case is a different PTO unit than a split type T case. so theres another thing to look out for :wink:

and i still need a PTO for a split type 4spd transfer case, i think these are on the 60 & 70 series cruisers.

i will have a PTO (winch not included) off my 3spd transfer case for sale (transfer and G box included) which i think may fit the non split type 4spd transfer case ?... not sure tho

krawlr · Post by **krawlr** » Mon May 01, 2006 6:24 am

take youre plate off ben when you go lookies for ptos ,saves alot of hassle man :wink:

and we just might of found one for ya :wink:

but il spec it tonight when the dude is home......

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Mon May 01, 2006 8:04 pm

wiked cheers dude.

im off to aussie for a few weeks for work as of 3.30am tomorrow morning :shock:

so will be unreachable(unless my cell works over there

should do.... i think. if you find one man just give my missuz a buzz and she will be able to contact me.

see all you mud slingers in a few weeks :wink:

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