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after fixing all the problems on my cruiser and finally getting her ready for warrant next week the glow switch arced out and stuck on and killed all of my electrics :( , quite devastating after being so close to having her back on the road.
there is power at the starter motor, at the starter relay, glowplug relay but wen i turn the key nothing hapens.
its a Bj42 if this helps at all.

would be more than greatful for any help or advice
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i know this is going to soud stupid but have you cheacked all your fuses and fuseable links ? check then for cindinuity .. sometimes they can look alright and not be
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um ye i forgot to mention that all of the fuses look fine but cannot get a reading off any of them ( no power going to the fuses)
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there is a fuseable link normally were the main assery wire leaves the positive erminal... or a engine bay fuse box
might pay to locat that ... it look sjuts like a wire... but it has less strands
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ok thanks for that, any idea were it would be??

ill have another look for it today
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cant find any blown fuses in the engine bay and not sure wat the main assery wire is??? if there is power at the starter motor does that mean it is still ok??

thanx for your help too man
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the other big wire than comes off.. and goes to the fuse box...has a fusable link or a fuse on it..sorry im not familure with your exact vehical check condenuity on that wire
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where in south land are you mate
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over edendale way mate.


oh k cheers vvega, ill check that out in the morning
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First, find the BIG fusible link. Follow the battery positive toward the fuse box until you find it. Check it's condition first. Once it is okay, start chasing down individual circuits and testing/fixing them as required.

The power at the starter is fine it has its own power cable, the main feed to the fuse box will have a fuseable link in line (usualy under 3 or 4 meters of tape and where there is no movement and something that will rip the skin off your kuckles) :roll: some you can see if they are blown because they cause bubbles in the insulation others you need to put a meter on either side.

for all the accessories to have no power it will be in this main feed and if you follow that feed you will find it if you cant you can work out where it is by getting a needle and pushing it through the insulation into the feed wire and connecting 12V to the needle and seeing if you get 12v inside, and work forward from the battery until you get 12v (go half the cable then half in the direction you need (toward the battery if the needle gave you power toward the fuse box if it didn't) this will locate the link.
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i will be heading through on the way to chch on the 5th if you have not had any luck by then let me no via PM and i will come have a look but i hope you have it sorted by then becouse thats still two weeks away
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I did a similar thing with my BJ40 when pulling the instrument cluster out. Shorted out off the ammeter. 24v big flash, lots of sparks :lol: Replaced the fuseable link like the others said and she was sweet as.
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ok so i just have to find the fusible link and shell be sorted?? whats involved with replacing it?
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go to your local garge or repco get a bit of 80amp (JUST A GUESS)fusible link wire and some termanels .crimp the termanels on. plug it in and your away loughing
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From memory on mine the wire your looking for had a big sqaure connector from just off the battery, was about 3-4 inches long and had another big square connector going into the rest of the system. Was cheap enough to replace.
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that sounds like it
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had a look and cant find any obvious black boxes, there is only 1 main wire coming off the positive and that goes straight to the starter. it has a few other little wires coming off it but they dissapear straight into the loom.

ill see if i cant get a pic up of it.
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There is only two places the fuseable link lives, it is usualy close to the battery but there are some installed on feed at the fuse box some even behind the fuse box. You can bypass the wiring to the fuse box (run another feed) and get it up and running.

From the sound of it the 40 is wired to the starter and the rest of the accessories is wired from there, this would mean the fuseable link will be on the wire from there that "dissapears into the loom".

Sometimes there is more than one fuseable link this is when they are at the fusebox as the feeds go to different computers etc that use high current (abs solenoids, traction control, fancy diff's that progressivley dis or engage in cars) unlikley to be more than one in a 40.

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so you rekon to check behind the fusebox??
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this is all i have coming off the +ve terminal
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thats your fusible link with the fabric sleve replace that and you will be away
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The fabric covered wire that i've circled in red is one and there may be another inside that black box that i have also circled. Check for continuity on either of the plugs or run a bit of wire between them to bypass and see what happens. If you choose the bypass option make sure you replace the fusible link cause if it doesn't blow you could set your truck on fire :wink: :oops:

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i checked that wee black box and the two fuses are fine but i didnt think to check the sleeved piece. hopefully thats it and i can fix it.
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had a look at me truck this morning and it is the fusible link that burnt out (that wee sleeved piece), now all i need to do is replace it and shell be going?? can anybody tell me what amp i need to replace it with?
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has a little dance :D
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60amp would be about right
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got the old girl to get me one from a auto sperky in town wired it in nd she gud as new now. thanks for everyones help, wudnt have figured that one out on my own.

one more thing i need to know is where the electronic flasher plugs in?? i found it on the floor and cannot find wea it came from :oops: . can anyone help??
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some where around the steering colum i would amagin
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Not to hot on 40 bits but i think behind the glovebox?
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thanks fellas, ill go have another look. not sur what ill do if i cnt find it :?
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