Heya! newbie here

NA_Drifter · Post by **NA_Drifter** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 11:06 pm

Hi everyone! Finnaly,.. my own/1st 4x4

But I have always like Land Rover but they too expensive here in NZ. My dad have got 3 Defender 110 (in Malaysia) which is 2x 2.4D turbo and 1x 2.4D. they awesome in offroading! non tubo are soo... slow...

Anyway my new toy is a Hilux surf LN130 2.4D Turbo but as usual, it had a run bearing #4.

hence i got the car cheap. Anyway i'll repower it with a petrol engine off a 1994 toyota supra.

I wondering, i'm sure that i'll need a cert after done the conversion. What happen to the RUC since i got 4000km left?? can i get refunds etc and also how to tell them the car run on petrol now instate of diesel so i don't have to pay RUC again??

I'll not need the 2LT motor so i'll be selling it.. hope it still got a good head on it.

Also what is the biggest wheels i can fit on the Surf? size ond offset?? it got IFS. dont mind to lift the car abit..

thank you all!
..Keith..

CRAZYDAVE · Post by **CRAZYDAVE** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 2:58 pm

Well if that was my toy I would put on some 35/12.5/15 tires. ya would need a bit of lift but with the supra motor it should do the trick.
THE MORE YOU MODIFY YOUR TRUCK THE FURTHER YOU GET STUCK FROM THE ROAD.

NA_Drifter · Post by **NA_Drifter** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 11:30 pm

i had a look at the forums and found that, 35" is not recommended??
also how much roughly will a body lift cost?

MATT4U · Post by **MATT4U** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:30 am

NA_Drifter wrote:i had a look at the forums and found that, 35" is not recommended??

Whats wrong with 35's, lotsof people on here run them. Mind you you would need to do a big lift plus a body lift to fit then under your truck.

JTop · Post by **JTop** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:50 am

35's will raise your gearing too high
35's will smash the "TOY's" fragile front diff
J Top

hosehustler · Post by **hosehustler** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:49 am

JTop wrote:35's will raise your gearing too high
35's will smash the "TOY's" fragile front diff
J Top

bullshit, depends on how you drive, been running 35's for nearly 2 years on a TOY as you put it, lockrights front and rear, yes had to change the diff ratio's, but am yet to smash this frgile front diff :roll:

SupraLux · Post by **SupraLux** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 2:11 pm

Firstly welcome to the board... good choice of truck.

Tim, J is refering to the IFS front diff... and yes, you WILL smash those IFS diffs running 35's. Go to 33s and a suspension lift, with a body lift to clear the guards otherwise they will rub badly when turning and flexing at the same time.

A body lift will cost you around $185-odd from me, not sure what other prices people have for them. I don't fit them any more unless I am going to cert the vehicle for you as well since there are issues surrounding body lifts and cert that are a pain to deal with... based on that my price to fit one is (including cert) around $550! (Which thankfully scares most people away

)

Alternative to body lift is to carefully clearance the required space for the tyres by beating the crap out of the floor pan/inside wheel arch

Suspension lift - $195 for 50mm lifted coil springs - easy to fit, then tweak the torsion bars in the front to match. Replace the shocks with longer travel ones while you're there...

Cheers

Steve

hosehustler · Post by **hosehustler** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:21 pm

Oops, sorry JT didn't see the ln130 line :roll:

, in that case I agree with JT :!:

, unless you do the SAS conversion :wink:

NA_Drifter · Post by **NA_Drifter** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:10 pm

Thank you everyone for the reply..
by the way, what is SAS mean?? I hear it and seen 4x4 with SAS plate on it too.. it make me wonder....

Well, 35".. since i'm new to all these.. i just brought a set of 15x8 deep dish and i hope they fit the surf.. What's the problem for the IFS which can't fit some wheels??

Also seem like alot more peoples down south into 4x4.
My Surf need cert anyway for the engine conversion, so i'm thinking to do everything at the same time. I'm keen for a body lift.. I seen it done before as my uncle in Malaysia are into 4x4 and he got 1st place in the Rainforrest challenge back in 1997..
http://www.rainforest-challenge.com/archi_97.htm the guy on your left.

he did the body lift by himself in like 30 minutes or less! well, not the 1st car he did. So i got a rough idea how to get it done.

My surf is 3 doors LN130. So, where can i get the lift kit? anyone here selling it? SupraLux?

SupraLux · Post by **SupraLux** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:05 pm

Yep, I can provide all the bits you need - probably best to give me a call on 021 637 600 in the evening to discuss what you need tho.

The motor swap, presumably a 2JZ? SupraSurf on here (or get one thru me) can supply the adaptor plate to run the 2JZ on the Hilux box... I rekon that would be the ducks nuts of a conversion... can't wait to see how it will go. Awesome. Yes, you will need cert for a body lift, and for an engine swap.

The SAS people are talking about is a solid axle swap... have a look here for an example of the process on my MU:
http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/modules.php?set_albumName=MUSAS&op=modload&name=Gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

Advantages of a SAS? You can park on nissans. Disadvantage? None as far as I'm concerned

Seriously tho, the solid axle is stronger, and can flex far better than IFS... with IFS you have very limited movement, and quite a weak setup that WILL break with very little provocation.

Keep asking, and keep us informed... take some photos of what you are doing and post them up here, we all love projects.

Steve

NA_Drifter · Post by **NA_Drifter** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:46 pm

yeah, is a 2JZGE off a 1994 supra. A mate of mine going to do the conversion for me as he already did one on his 2wd hilux.
Not many peoples done such a conversion i believe.. but i knew there is someone "SupraSurf"? done exactly what I want.
There is alot of M series conversion.

I'll take pictures of the progress. The main purpose of my 4x4 is for towing. My mate use his for towing as well and the awesome. Cheaper to runs and have lots of grunt. So I'm thinking to go for body lift first so that the towbar is not too high.

Is there like a legal limit for body lift?? or a "safe" height limit? The tyres i'll be fitting is 265/70/15 on 15x8 and I hope they don't much problem.

SupraLux · Post by **SupraLux** » Thu May 11, 2006 4:24 pm

Ah, heres the thread I was looking for - So what have you gone with suspension-wise? Any photos of the process so far? We need photos!

Steve