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ok well this started about 4 weeks ago really i moved the blizzy from the drive onto the verge so it was out of the way and when i started it that time it took ages and gave off a lot of white smoke from the exhaust that smelt very waxy.Roll on to last weekend and i decided that i should clean the truck and move it back up the drive, but when i went to start there was nothing it just turned over but didn't fire. (managed to flatten the battery in the process)
after asking a couple of guys we figured out that it was the glow plugs....so finally fitted the 4 new plugs this weekend and hooked up the car to jump start the blizzy once again nothing dunno if needed more omph with the jump start or could there be another niggle somewhere.

any help would be great guys

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wgtnnewbie wrote:ok well this started about 4 weeks ago really i moved the blizzy from the drive onto the verge so it was out of the way and when i started it that time it took ages and gave off a lot of white smoke from the exhaust that smelt very waxy.Roll on to last weekend and i decided that i should clean the truck and move it back up the drive, but when i went to start there was nothing it just turned over but didn't fire. (managed to flatten the battery in the process)
after asking a couple of guys we figured out that it was the glow plugs....so finally fitted the 4 new plugs this weekend and hooked up the car to jump start the blizzy once again nothing dunno if needed more omph with the jump start or could there be another niggle somewhere.

any help would be great guys

cheers steve

I would charge the battery for 24 hours then have another go, had a work van a few years ago that the boss was too tight to replace the battery and it was a #### to start but with new battery was easy :wink:
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haynzy wrote:I would charge the battery for 24 hours then have another go, had a work van a few years ago that the boss was too tight to replace the battery and it was a #### to start but with new battery was easy :wink:



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probably not a stupid idea....lol wonder if skiddy'd got a charger at his place.....lol (be a funny kinda battery salesman if he didn't i suppose)
skid wrote:
haynzy wrote:I would charge the battery for 24 hours then have another go, had a work van a few years ago that the boss was too tight to replace the battery and it was a #### to start but with new battery was easy :wink:



can help with that for ya if needed

snap was just gonna pm ya about that
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did ya plug the power back onto glow ribbon....................
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taz01 wrote:did ya plug the power back onto glow ribbon....................


yep all connections that i took off i reconnected so guess we'll see after charging the battery
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on the post they bolted to ........2 wires 1 top 1 bottom with insulator bit in there too????????????
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I would put straight power onto the glow plugs as it could be the relay craped out , if it starts then you know its the glow relay
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taz01 wrote:on the post they bolted to ........2 wires 1 top 1 bottom with insulator bit in there too????????????


nope didn't see them...lol there is a connection on the 3rd glow that leads away to another terminal which may be the one your talking about but that just stayed connected to said terminal while ribben was off.
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Chopper01 wrote:I would put straight power onto the glow plugs as it could be the relay craped out , if it starts then you know its the glow relay

ditto i had the same thing
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Chopper01 wrote:I would put straight power onto the glow plugs as it could be the relay craped out , if it starts then you know its the glow relay

i take it you mean run the jump cables from battery to the glow plug ribbon
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wgtnnewbie wrote:
Chopper01 wrote:I would put straight power onto the glow plugs as it could be the relay craped out , if it starts then you know its the glow relay

i take it you mean run the jump cables from battery to the glow plug ribbon


yea thats right put a jumper cable off the + and put it on the glow ribben but make sure its on the steel not the rubber coated bit , count to 10 and try and start it
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Chopper01 wrote:
wgtnnewbie wrote:
Chopper01 wrote:I would put straight power onto the glow plugs as it could be the relay craped out , if it starts then you know its the glow relay

i take it you mean run the jump cables from battery to the glow plug ribbon


yea thats right put a jumper cable off the + and put it on the glow ribben but make sure its on the steel not the rubber coated bit , count to 10 and try and start it

cool will give that a try once battery is charged fully
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haynzy wrote: I would charge the battery for 24 hours then have another go,
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I agree ... I found that because the glow plug controller keeps the power on the plugs when the engine is cold it's extra load on the battery often makes a cold engine hard to jump start.

Also how good are your Jumper cables ???
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dazza85 wrote:
haynzy wrote: I would charge the battery for 24 hours then have another go,
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I agree ... I found that because the glow plug controller keeps the power on the plugs when the engine is cold it's extra load on the battery often makes a cold engine hard to jump start.

Also how good are your Jumper cables ???


not to sure about 250 amps i think they weren't getting hot at all just mildly warm
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wgtnnewbie wrote:but when i went to start there was nothing it just turned over but didn't fire. (managed to flatten the battery in the process)



How old is your battery?
There the date should be on a sticker somewhere or stamped into a terminal, its recorded as a letter and number format, the letter is the month and the number is the year

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Sadam_Husain wrote:
wgtnnewbie wrote:but when i went to start there was nothing it just turned over but didn't fire. (managed to flatten the battery in the process)



How old is your battery?
There the date should be on a sticker somewhere or stamped into a terminal, its recorded as a letter and number format, the letter is the month and the number is the year

ie: D9 = April 2009


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HEY TARDBE

DO YOU WANNA TELL THE WORLD OR SHOULD SKID DO IT



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Come on Skid this is so not like you :shock: :shock:

Do tell dude .... Come on dude tell all
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skid wrote:HEY TARDBE

DO YOU WANNA TELL THE WORLD OR SHOULD SKID DO IT



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what the fact that i know feck all about diesel engines or that it actually had a manual fuel primer pump................ :roll: :roll: :roll:

tho in saying that after changing the glowplugs it doesn't bellow out black smoke under load....... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Must of been somthing real simple then, Comon skiddy tell us?
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Bugger it, hes home alone and has not replied himself so I'll embarass him then.


I cruised around to check out his issues. He had removed the battery for me, so I tested it and it seems its a dud, but I have got it on charge all the same, although I think TARDBE is being hopeful.

So I get a brand spanking new battery out of the truck, (which in all honesty is probably going to stay in TARDBE's wee truk) and throw it in.

TARDBE is cranking it over and it wont fire, so we get the trusty can of CRC out and give the old girl a helping hand.

It wants to go but it just wont fire.

Off comes the fuel line from the manual pump to the motor and skid starts pumping. About 2 mins later some diesel comes through from the tank. The hose goes back on and with a few more pumps and a little extra couple of squirts from our trusty can and she fires into life.

leave it running for a few minutes, turn it off and try again.

wouldn't ya know it, she goes. All fixed.

so the moral of the story is...............................



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I would mention at this stage that I drink bourban TARDBE, but you have little cash and it seems you are going to have to come up with $125 anyways, so we'll just call a free embarrasment this time
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Steve, unsure what the engine is in your truck but a real quick search of the net found a manual for the 2L-T. Is this the same as what you got?

http://pdftown.com/Toyota-2L-T-and-3L-Engine-Repair-Manual.html

6.6 MB. If so, download and learn about your engine mate. :wink:
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