whats the "ideal" turbo for the safari.

gary_in_nz · Post by **gary_in_nz** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 12:28 pm

is that an egt gauge going into the manifold??

flyingbrick · Post by **flyingbrick** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 12:31 pm

No, thats a narrowband 02 sensor going into the downpipe :-)

flyingbrick · Post by **flyingbrick** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 5:57 pm

####. Made a call today. Lucked out on the evo7 unit. FFS.

Have bought an EVOIII TD05 instead. Was a sweet deal so im very happy.

Its the BIG wheel version :shock:

and is quite sought after by the evo guys.
Pretty gutted that its not reverse rotation like the evo 4+ units-

HOWEVER from what i've seen its not hard to swap a big wheel TD05 for a small wheel one from a later model car :-)

as its a common and desirable upgrade.

Heres some more info:

website wrote:16G on the left, Big 16G on the Right

This is the stock turbo from the Lancer EVO III. Outwardly they look like any other 16G. They use the same compressor housing, TDO-5 exhaust wheel, and the same 7cm volume exhaust housing. Until you pop off the compressor housing... HELLO! Big Wheel. Flows 550 cfm vs. 505 cfm for the regular 16G.

The normal 16-G compressor wheel is 1.83" at the inducer and 2.36" at the exducer. The Big 16-G is 1.89" at the inducer and 2.68" at the exducer. That is just over 5/16" (8mm) larger than the normal 16-G exducer and the same size as the GReddy 18-G (inducer diameter is only .10" smaller than a 18-G)

Pickup next sunday

if anyones keen i'll throw up a project thread detailing whats done as i work it out.

I'll be needing a modified diesel pump by the sounds of it. hmmn.

Quadstyle · Post by **Quadstyle** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:51 pm

what size oil feed and oil return should i be using on my safari anyway???

BEAUTGQ · Post by **BEAUTGQ** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:21 pm

i ended up getting a td05h off a wrx for 300 off trademe made manifold for $150 max just getting other bits together might get a chance to fit this week will flick up some pics when its done.

KiwiBacon · Post by **KiwiBacon** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:23 am

Quadstyle wrote:what size oil feed and oil return should i be using on my safari anyway???

For the feed, small enough to drop the pressure so it doesn't spray oil out the seals. The typical braided hoses sold in ebay etc are a good start. For the return you want at least a 15mm pipe/hose heading to the sump above the highest oil level you expect in there.

vvega · Post by **vvega** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:25 am

1,5mm restrictor in a floating bush type core
.9mm in a ballbearing turbo

BEAUTGQ · Post by **BEAUTGQ** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:16 pm

Hey for you guys wanting a look at my manifold i set up a thing on the build page go from the home page and click on builds. couldnt work out how to put them on this thread haha. i got a few pics from captaindeadeye that gave me a few ideas cheers for that :wink:

BEAUTGQ · Post by **BEAUTGQ** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:58 pm

hey who knows the size of the air intake to the intake manifold after the air filter box is removed?

gary_in_nz · Post by **gary_in_nz** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:09 pm

from memory its about 2.5 to 3 inches by 2inches. *about*

BEAUTGQ · Post by **BEAUTGQ** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:46 pm

i just need to know what size adapter to use from turbo (2inch) into engine i think its 2.5inch? just thought some one may remember

doby · Post by **doby** » Sat May 02, 2009 9:46 am

Yes, the inlet manifold is 2.5". I have some left-over blue silicone joiners, send me a pm if you need some.

darinz · Post by **darinz** » Sat May 02, 2009 11:11 am

BEAUTGQ wrote:Hey for you guys wanting a look at my manifold i set up a thing on the build page go from the home page and click on builds. couldnt work out how to put them on this thread haha. i got a few pics from captaindeadeye that gave me a few ideas cheers for that

You should cut in between each flange as that will save manifold studs etc from breaking. It will reduce the life of the manifold as it will then flex a bit as it gets hot and cools but as it is cheap and you can weld any cracks that would be the easiest and cheapest option.
Also 13psi ain''t much boost for a TD42. 16psi is a very safe level and why go to the hassle of turboing and not getting the real benefits. At that boost I would expect alot more than 1/2 a turn on the fuel but you need a pyro etc to do that acurately.

Maybe you should start a thread for your truck so we can offer some direct advice?

contour · Post by **contour** » Tue May 19, 2009 9:17 pm

would a Garrett GT28 Turbo be suited for a td42 conversion. is it the same as a t28? i have read this topic and gained a lil bit of info but still know fark all. :lol:

all so found this

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=219598577

says Merc also used this turbo on there diesel range

Safari Swb · Post by **Safari Swb** » Wed May 20, 2009 8:42 pm

pretty sure a "t28" is a garrett gt28... should work on a 4.2 as i know thier used lots on skylines..mind you i know #### all aswell :lol:

.. still learning lol

vvega · Post by **vvega** » Thu May 21, 2009 8:18 am

same turbo ... if it has a r on the end its a ballbearing if it has a s its a newer blade profile

so like gt28/28rs

contour · Post by **contour** » Thu May 21, 2009 2:10 pm

FOUND td42 exhast flange at www.rage.co.nz they are $79.40 incl gst and part no FL9072

gary_in_nz · Post by **gary_in_nz** » Thu May 21, 2009 7:12 pm

has anyone got a picture of the adapter they used to bolt on to the intake manifold to plumb the turbo piping up to?? i just need a quick idea to try whip one up at work tomorrow if i get some spare time.

i currently have a cast manifold that goes from the turbo to the stock intake manifold on the td42, but have a fat intercooler that will be going on.

also i am looking for another air box as the one that came in the dts kit i bought is similar size and mounting to the factory N/A air box. what have you guys used as alternative air box??

contour · Post by **contour** » Thu May 21, 2009 8:55 pm

im using a KZN130 Surf air box its good because if any water dose manage to get in it sits in the bottom as the air goes out the top.

gary_in_nz · Post by **gary_in_nz** » Thu May 21, 2009 9:12 pm

contour wrote:im using a KZN130 Surf air box its good because if any water dose manage to get in it sits in the bottom as the air goes out the top.

haha after you mentioned that i saw the one your bidding on on trade me. dont worry i wont bid against you i might try find something with atleast 3 inch inlet i think.

contour · Post by **contour** » Thu May 21, 2009 9:31 pm

gary_in_nz wrote:
contour wrote:im using a KZN130 Surf air box its good because if any water dose manage to get in it sits in the bottom as the air goes out the top.

haha after you mentioned that i saw the one your bidding on on trade me. dont worry i wont bid against you i might try find something with atleast 3 inch inlet i think.

haha yea theres an older one there but dont know what it like its out of a 80s something lux.

gary_in_nz · Post by **gary_in_nz** » Fri May 22, 2009 6:19 pm

contour wrote:
gary_in_nz wrote:
contour wrote:im using a KZN130 Surf air box its good because if any water dose manage to get in it sits in the bottom as the air goes out the top.

haha after you mentioned that i saw the one your bidding on on trade me. dont worry i wont bid against you i might try find something with atleast 3 inch inlet i think.

haha yea theres an older one there but dont know what it like its out of a 80s something lux.

Hey, Its also the principal of it. Do we really want Toyota parts in the Nissan??

I know most the Toyboys wouldnt want it the other way (maybe except the axels and diffs)!!!

BEAUTGQ · Post by **BEAUTGQ** » Fri May 22, 2009 7:37 pm

re the adapter to plumb up to intake manifold i just used the standard one that the original air cleaner box sits on, its black 2.5inch pipe? that what youre talking about

Bobby · Post by **Bobby** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:27 pm

I have a question for all the Td 42 guru's out there.
I was just wondering where the best place is to tee into to get the water to cool a water cooled turbo on the Td 42.
I can remember reading something a while ago that it is important to get the right places so you get the good water flow.
Hopefully somebody can help.

Cheers.
P.S its on a 89 Shorty Auto

Shane · Post by **Shane** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:53 pm

Bobby wrote:I have a question for all the Td 42 guru's out there.
I was just wondering where the best place is to tee into to get the water to cool a water cooled turbo on the Td 42.
I can remember reading something a while ago that it is important to get the right places so you get the good water flow.
Hopefully somebody can help.

Cheers.
P.S its on a 89 Shorty Auto

Most of the ones I'v seen dont use water cooling at all,I dont

Petrol engine has much Higher exhast temp so needs the water cooling,what turbo you got?

Shane

Bobby · Post by **Bobby** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:28 pm

I all ready have a water cooled IHI so am committed to making it work.

I'm sure some of the after market kits run a water cooled turbo.(Even though i realise it's not a must).

Any help would be apperciated.

Thanks

Quadstyle · Post by **Quadstyle** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 6:32 pm

Hi bobby as shane said you do not need to run water cooling on your turbo unless you really want to.

i am running a TD05H witch is a water cooled turbo but i havent conected up the water system it comes down to personal prefrence weather you put the water through your turbo or not (a water cooled turbo does not require water going through it.)

Bobby · Post by **Bobby** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:36 pm

Cheers guys,I did not realise it was optional.

monstr · Post by **monstr** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:55 pm

Hi Mate Mine was optional as well but i thought its not going to hurt running water through as well ,I just put in T junctions from the heater hoses right where it enters the motor ,been running it that way for a couple of years with no problems..Cheers

Bobby · Post by **Bobby** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 6:52 pm

Cheers monstr,I had decided it would be better for the long term life of the turbos to water cool them ,espcially as they are ball bearing turbos they only get a minimal amount of oil to the turbo to lube and cool the bearing.
Better to be safe than sorry.
Cheers

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