31's on a 3 door escudo

[Safari Swb]

how much lift is required to fit 31's on an escudo??

[Sadam_Husain]

dunno but I think you need an endless supply of cv's

[Safari Swb]

why are they week??. im seriously considering getting a escudo just want to no wats involved with getting them a bit higher off the ground.

whats a safe size tire to run on the escudo??

[Sadam_Husain]

I think tara13 went through 15 cv's in 3 years or something like that, Beer Cruiser could tell you?

[Danster55]

I have a 3 dr zook, so does my brother, we run 30s. i have put a 75mm 'Calmini' suspension and my brother has 40mm tough dogs and i think he may be running commodore springs on the front, either that or had them stretched.30s are the max you can go without major work, body lift, cv and steering adjusments. Its a biggy, i have no problem with 30s, i am at the maximum hieght i can go on standard cv joints. I was warned against such a high lift and big tyres by some people but most said it is good. Its bloody great, never had trouble and i have put it through alot of stress! If you do decide to go above 30s the gear ratios change and there can be alot of power loss on hills, especially if you don't have EFI.
Hope this has helped.

Dan.

[suzookyman]

hey i run 31x11.5 mudzillas with 5door springs and 50mm body lift had to trim the back of the front gaurds,just done my first cv in 6 months with this combination.Im starting to collect bits for the suspension lift,holden front springs ,luarel rears,commy/bmw rear shocks.you do need to get that front diff down!
Al

ps mine is not road legal : : :evil:

[Weasel]

Ive heard of people being alright on 31's, but the vast majority Ive talked to have had lot of broken CV's and diffs from 31's so decided to stay 30 myself. Ive got Tough Dog 45mm lifted springs from 4door, so higher than 3dr ones, and stretched front springs extra 10mm to level front up with bar on and got winch to go on. Extremely happy with the flexibility of these springs (coupled with OME shocks allround).

With no body lift, the rear tyres rub a tiny amount on upper arches, but no issue. The front rub slightly on chassis at full lock, and had to hammer the seam flat in the arches as it caught on them.

To fit 31's you'd have to mod the front arches as mentioned in above post and the back arches as well without the 50mm body lift.

A more functional alternative could be to put 30's on, and shave 1" off the bottom of the rear diff, which equates to fitting 32's? (1" of extra clearance under diff).

As Danster says, be aware of gearing too, I already lose power on large uphills and wouldnt go to 31's myself even if possible reliably, due to gearing. I believe 8valve models may be slightly better with gearing or lower torque or something? Anybody support that?

Zuk's are awesome...but one thing you have to accept is that without some big work it's not easy to go bigger than 30" without compromising reliability, so not good for trips with big ruts. No doubt some do have success on 31's, but my above view is based on my observations plus the majority of others I hear.

[Safari Swb]

alright 30's sound good. what kind of springs can i bolt in from another model car?? ive heard you can use laurl springs. so just to confirm, i can run 30s on a 50mm suspension lift

[Heath]

If you are going up in height (more than about 2") then you should look for some front diff drop brackets to ease the front CV angles. If you find some std LWB springs they will lift a SWB about 30mm (most people just want bigger so dump their old springs so you may get some for next to nothing) although depending on the age of the springs and how saggy they are this may be less. Search for the thread on cheap suspension lift in vitara/escudos as this discussed the combos.

here it is http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/Forums/ ... cheap+lift

[Safari Swb]

where would i get some of those diff brackets from?? cheers

[Heath]

pm weemsy, he had some on his lwb wagon I think so will be able to point you in the right direction.

[spanky]

why lower your diff when you want to gain clearance? on my old one i lifted it 65-70mm , blew one cv in 3 years of off roading, you should stock up on front diffs more than anything, if off road only weld your rear diff and all the front lasts longer, as heath said check out cheap vitara lift thread,you can see in the pics even on the ramp the cv angles arnt that bad and i had flipped the top shock mounts so the strut is about 30mm lower aswell, with that susp set up you can run 31s sweet if you put them on the std rims and bash the seam at the back of the front guard, 8 valves handle the 31s way better than the 16v does, you also need 5dr hand brake cables so they dont pull tight when flexing. set up right they are a awesome little jeep, only thing that buggers them is the chassis rails sit low.
vaughan

[amateur]

i have a 3dr escudo with 31 simex's and in a year of thrashing ive only ever broken one axle and mine has 2" bodylift and 3" suspension lift havent droped the front diff but they are on a bit of a angle

[spanky]

mate has 31s on his scud ,has my cheap lift in it and no other mods, hes broken nothing yet and he is rough

vaughan

[Escudo boy]

do the tyres rub, on the bak of the front guards?

[lneil]

With 31" Adventuros on a 3Dr manual with 1 inch bodylift and 2" suspension I have no issues and have broken only one front diff (ran ring and pinion teeth). Cut the lower rear of the front wheelarch about one inch and only get light rubbing on full lock. It's on 7" rims with about -15mm offset.

The other (auto 3Dr) truck runs 31" Swampers on 7" zero offset rims, with no suspension lift and a 3" calmini bodylift. Just rubs the lower rear of the front arches while turning and the chassis rail under full lock. Haven't broken anything yet.

Both are 8-valve and definitely are more user friendly than the 16-valve trucks. less horsepower but much better torque characteristics down low.

[spanky]

it doesnt seem to rub that much,the seams in the back of the front guards have been bashed but thats all.

vaughan

[Escudo boy]

ok, how did they get bashed out??, my gaurds have a weird plastic thing that is coming off and its rubbing on hard lock, im gonna rip em off wen i get my mud tyres and put sum of those flappy flare things on so it passes a warrent

[flyingbrick]

Tom. Your flares are the commercially available 4wd specific rubber flares. They are good (if thats what you are talking about) and if its wide enough is prefered to the conveyor belt rubber that i think you are talking about.

BUT..

if you are talking about the plastic inner guard liners...just tuck them out of the way, screw them down again if they are loose or take them out

I may have some cheapish 31's for you off my truck when the time comes

-Nathan

[Escudo boy]

i want the conveyor belt ones, they seem more effective and look cooler

[flyingbrick]

i want the conveyor belt ones, they seem more effective and look cooler

Sorry about talking about your mum in a sexual manner, bro.

I've been feeling pretty bad about it.

HOWEVER I've come up with an ideal solution. What you need to do is show us a photo of your mother. This way we can decide if she is hot.... or not.

I'm not entirely sure if that is the right solution for the right problem... But who cares!!!!...right?

If you think this is a bad idea and/or just want to roll around on the gym mats some more please (I'm begging you) let me know.

-NAthan

[Escudo boy]

u really do have alot of teeth for a smart ####

[flyingbrick]

You are welcome to smack me one whenever you like.

But judging by how weak ass last nights attempted beating was (it was not only weak, but also exceptionally funny... as evidenced by the fact i was laughing so hard i could hardly even focus my eyes on your lovely grimacing mug) I'll assume it'll be relatively uneventful. But by all means. Come over. Bring posse even.........if you have one.

In all seriousness though. Your mum and I have run out of lube and Its too cold at this time of night for a trip into town. Could you pick some up on your way over? she'll pay you back.

-Nathan

OK i PROMISE no more.

[Escudo boy]

i wasnt trying to hurt u, but i will if i have to, please stop talking that way