Full Width Axles?

[GotFlex]

Hey guys
After looking endlessly at Pirate 4x4, alot of the more serious trucks have some insanely wide axles!
Does anyone know what is availiable in NZ thats really wide?
AND DONT SAY USE 4" SPACERS

Cheers

[skid]

depends what kind of truk you got

hilux gear under a zuki looks wide

80 series under a 40 is wide

and just recently a guy in welly put late model JK rubicon jeep gear under his TJ so we measured it against a hilux geared trials truck running same wheels and it was a whole foot wider


lot of the yanks use military axles too

[GotFlex]

So 80s are our widest in NZ?
Wish we had Rockwells or 1 Tons here.
I guess unimogs must be avail in NZ somewhere?

Iv got solid axle with IFS hub swap and wide offset rims, but want more width.

[skid]

I'm almost crying as I say it, but I think nissan safari is wider again

[bigstu]

ok ill try again stuppid new computer lost what i tryed to submit
Ive seen alot of aussies and a few yanks are using 80 series axles gives extra 150mm+? width over standy hilux diffs the rear diff has a 90mm offset to the right which is a slight problem if uve got a hilux as drive shaft will foul on fuel tank fixing that is either a case of rear mounting a tank or pissing round flipping the diff which is quite a major with an isuzu there should be no issues with fuel tank.
il tryn find a thread id been reading and post it up for you.
Thanks Stu

[GotFlex]

thats 6" wider then,not bad at all,
80 series diff heads are 8 inch correct?
So i could use the hilux 4.8s i have?

[haydgq]

thats 6" wider then,not bad at all,
80 series diff heads are 8 inch correct?
So i could use the hilux 4.8s i have?

Only the front of a 80 series uses a 8 inch diff head, The rears are 9.5 i think.

[bigstu]

heres that link
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/sutra1630247.php
Thanks Stu

[wopass]

I'm almost crying as I say it, but I think nissan safari is wider again

nah, the VX is wider than the GQ by about 2" total (1" each side...ish)

[lilpigzuk]

america is heaps wider than nz...... not so neccesary here

[rokhound]

All the wide axles they are using in the US are Dana 60s. They are out of the heavy duty pick ups that they have over there (dodge rams etc).

When you say the 80s is 150mm wider than a lux, which model lux are you talking about?

[hosehustler]

One point to remember is all formed or even semi-formed tracks in NZ were all landrover width, hilux's etc fit well onto these tracks and most kept open over the years have been done in early cruisers or hilux's, the later trucks such as VX's and Safari's are bit tighter on the tracks but not too bad, if you go much wider than that then you'll have problems, hummers are a classic example of the problem. Most of us using lux axles go for the wide rear surf axles then fit landcruiser offset rims and do a IFS hub swap to the front axle (to match rear width) this gives a hilux a good wide stance that is certifiable.
If you're just building a dedicated trailer queen for a particular purpose then I guess the wider the better

[moonhopper]

Jesse have you had your truck out in some good hard runs yet to test what you have allready done to it, before more mods are done

[skid]

yup, listening to what hosehustler said is correct

if you go too wide you will encounter problems

our very own Jafa built a sexy crawler and once he hit the tracks he proceeded to get wedged in a few places due to his wheel track being very wide.

its up to you, but listen to whats being said and don't get too carried away

[wopass]

yup, listening to what hosehustler said is correct

if you go too wide you will encounter problems

our very own Jafa built a sexy crawler and once he hit the tracks he proceeded to get wedged in a few places due to his wheel track being very wide.

its up to you, but listen to whats being said and don't get too carried away

jaffa has the same track width as me

[Bulletproof]

Apart from trialing going wider is a disadvantage on most tracks.

The NZ railway tracks are 3 foot 6inches compared to most of the world on 4 feet 8.5 inchs. The reason for this is tighter turning because of the terrain here.

The same thing applies to most 4x4 tracks in this country.

I think the std hilux -cruiser width is an advantage over a Safari that has tyre problems every trip.

Cheers Richard