DAMMIT ! another project/repair....

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Mon May 29, 2006 8:21 am

well im back from the land of OZ...diddnt manage to find dorothy or toto over there :lol:

poked my head into the garage this morning and theres a box labeled "fragile" so im thinking

WTF

but then i give it a nudge with the foot :shock:

and its lucky im wearing steel caps aye krawlr fkn fragile :lol:

thats a good one. cheers for the bits bro :wink:

all i need is to get out there and start pulling the old bits out now and pop the 4spd and transfer in.....and find a PTO then we're cookin :twisted:

DieselBoy · Post by **DieselBoy** » Mon May 29, 2006 10:44 am

Gimme a yell if you need another pair of hands man

niblik · Post by **niblik** » Mon May 29, 2006 2:17 pm

muddy wrote:How about a whole BJ60 - use the winch & keep the rest for parts...
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... d=54404542
I also had no trouble fitting a PTO - just had to shorten the D/S since it had come off a 60 series with 5spd box.

thats uncanny

.. cos i'm the chap that bought that truck specifically for that purpose, parts.. :oops:

using power steerin,discs,pto,spare transfer and gearbox. mods for my 40...

60's not a bad dog kennel too........

how bad is the body on your 40?

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Mon May 29, 2006 5:56 pm

bodys pretty good considering its still all origanal steel panels,has a bit of cancer but nothing serious, still a very solid truck

hey Niblik,are you going to use the 60 front diff housing ? im in the market for one

and axles dont need anything else tho

MNC · Post by **MNC** » Mon May 29, 2006 10:32 pm

Hi Niblik, Yeah, my 40's body is not so flash. Mainly rust patches in the floor pan. My Flatmate is a panel beater and doesn`t rekon its worth trying to save.

I had played with the idea of trying to get it back on road but think I`ll just A-Frame it everywhere instead.

I almost bought a Fibreglass Jeep body to put on it but my flatmate talked me out of that too.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... d=57156086

Why do you ask?

Also, good to see you are back Ben, reckon you could post some pics on the PTO installation when you do it? Would be awesome cause I need something to follow. Cheers.

niblik · Post by **niblik** » Mon May 29, 2006 11:45 pm

wopass

yeah, i'm not usin the front diff housin.. or the axles for that matter.. was hopin to hang onto axle for a little bit longer (2-3ish weeks) just to enable me to get the pto,power steer and bits i wanted off whislt still being a rolling body.. how soon ya need? sure we can sort something.. :wink:

lemme know?

mnc

just askin as i have 2 40's on the go, 1 of which i a-frame around also. thought about tubbin the other with fibreglass too but not for $4500 from north island somewhere.. :shock:

just from experience, i suggest if ya can salvage her, may be a good idea.. thats a large motivator for me to get my 2nd 40 all legal.. its a p.i.t.a to go to a trail head or river mouth, drop in and go playin, workin ya way along and then, bugger!

have to go back or work in a loop to pick up the tow vehicle to get home.. if a mates keen to tow ya, tight! that'd save hassles..

good luck with it..

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Tue May 30, 2006 9:42 pm

progress

on the floor

bellhousing in

refaced flywheel

and in

now theres only the driveshafts to re do...again as they now dont fit
and find a PTO for it and im in buisness

...oh and make some brackets for the gearbox crossmember to chassis

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Tue May 30, 2006 9:44 pm

so who has some 60's driveshafts lying around ?

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:09 pm

niblik wrote:wopass

yeah, i'm not usin the front diff housin.. or the axles for that matter.. was hopin to hang onto axle for a little bit longer (2-3ish weeks) just to enable me to get the pto,power steer and bits i wanted off whislt still being a rolling body.. how soon ya need? sure we can sort something.. lemme know?

good luck with it..

hey Niblik

how much you wanting for the front housing with axles dude ? might be a bit xpendy to freight up here ? i got a housing from napier the other day but am unsure if its the right one

so yea i wouldnt mind getting yours mate :wink:

niblik · Post by **niblik** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:23 pm

hi wopass... dont know what to be askin for the front housin and axles... i know theres a joker on trade me askin $350 for each end complete...
make me an offer? not lookin to rip you off and not lookin to get ripped off...sure you can appreciate..

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:55 pm

PM'ed ya Niblik

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:13 pm

still needing a PTO for the split case transfer

everybody keep your eyes peeled :wink:

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 2:28 pm

well after putting the new G box and transfer case in i decided in my infinate wisdom :shock:

to do the mod i have been thinking about for a while now, which is put the 60 series housings under the 40

fabbed up some massive spring perches for making the housings sprung over then set about cutting all the old mounts and perches off the rear housing. measure and measure again and then weld new perches to the housing,get it all in place and clamped up with diff in etc, no real drama.

then to the front..... cut all the old mounts off that as well and measure up for the new perches to be welded on, here begins the head ache. where the 40 series spring sits on the housing is bloody inconvenient,sits a long way up the head so makes it interesting to say the least :evil:

consequently i have ordered some new sqare bottom U bolts for the front :roll:

thats about as far as ive gotten with it so far... will post some pics when i have it sorted :wink:

JTop · Post by **JTop** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:01 pm

Thats normal for a 60 under a 40. The easy answer, fit coils to the front.
You can put the coils outside the chassis and the shocks inside the coils.
To equal the springover height at the rear you would probably use coils and shocks from a petrol 80.
I have used GQ front coils and shocks with a chev V8 for this but with less height required.
J Top

De-Ranged · Post by **De-Ranged** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:58 am

Sounds like its hit project level

You can put the coils outside the chassis and the shocks inside the coils.
To equal the springover height at the rear you would probably use coils and shocks from a petrol 80

If your gona coil the front you might as well do the rear while your at it :wink:

before long you'll be like me :roll:

Noticed you got that axle, you want me to pick it up for ya

Cheers Reece

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 8:21 am

De-Ranged wrote::lol: Sounds like its hit project level
Noticed you got that axle, you want me to pick it up for ya

Cheers Reece

cheers for the offer dude but i grabbed it when i passed thru to dunnyvirke and back to get my ute.

no way im gonna coil it.......yet my old saggy leaf springs out flex half the coils ive seen in action

De-Ranged · Post by **De-Ranged** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 8:46 am

my old saggy leaf springs out flex half the coils ive seen

True

but if ya gona project it :lol:

ya just thinking about it your a bit more sensible than me

When you were through you should have given us a bell

always got a beer in the fridge

Cheers Reece

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:02 pm

was in my mind but driving from hamilton to dunnyvirke and back with a massive car trailer on and a ute loaded on the way back, it was a bloody long day driving, left here 6am and got back home at 7.30pm :shock:

making more progress with the missile today, got my shock mounts cut off the old housing and welded onto the new one, waiting on the new U bolts from 4wd bits now to finish mounting the housing in propperly, then probly mid week for my axles to turn up then re build the long side ... getting tired thinking about it,

then i have to get drive shafts sorted and PTO sorted....

then shakedown trip up thompsons

....hope its all ok :roll:

niblik · Post by **niblik** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:06 pm

hi wopass... was interested in seein how ya got around the spring perches on the 40 being narrower than the 60.. how'd ya get around the fact that the longer side has the extra 2 inches?

centre it? does it affect the driveshafts much? ( i realise its only an inch, but still wondered :oops:

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how about havin the perch and u-bolts being towards the pumpkin by an inch? did ya cut the diffs housing a bit? does the u-bolt still fit?

pics would be great..

cheers..

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:26 pm

will post pics tomorrow,

just inthe process of finishing the front end now, new square bottom U bolts from 4x4bits(cheers warren :wink:

)cut to length as too long

with modified cruiser top plates, kinda cut and positioned under the perch with some 10mm packer/bolt keeps, with modified surf rear bump stops with the rubber cut off on top of the spring to capture the U bolts and locate the spring pin..... etc etc.

yes its a bit of work :roll:

the rear was sooo easy and the front is such a pain in the arse... but fun :twisted:

...grinding and welding and cutting and welding, real good manly stuff :wink:

pics tomorrow

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 5:19 pm

gna make another thread for the 60 series housings :wink:

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 5:39 pm

link to new build up here

http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/modules ... 0011#20011

lots of pics

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:56 pm

finally finished the gearbox/transfer case job off today by getting the drive shafts and support mount in and bolted up, gearbox support VERY ugly :oops:

but plenty strong ,couple bits of 10mm plate bolted to some box section which is welded to chassis rails,inside welds are VERY ugly as i couldnt see with helmet on so welding by feel

but the welds that you can see on the outside look ok, and thats the main thing, cover it all in some mud and they will all look sweet :twisted:

no pics yet untill i cover it in a liberal dose of black paint to hide all the ugly shit

cant wait to get the front all finished off so i can take it for a flex and shakedown test :twisted:

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:48 pm

well G box support all painted up

can still see ugly shit and it doesnt look pretty but it should be fine :wink:

....if not ill make a stronger one :twisted:

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:38 pm

well i managed to get the PTO on today and had to lengthen my drive shaft to the winch by 70mm, easy as

cut tube in half,add 70mm piece of tube and weld it in :wink:

just dont look at it when its spinning :roll:

winch is working again

bring on the mud :twisted:

MNC · Post by **MNC** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:51 pm

You don`t muck around do you. How much oil do you need to add to the gearbox to allow for the PTO gear?

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:03 pm

i think its about 700ml from memory mate....i think if you get a 1ltr bottle of gear oil to add to your transfer case you should be sweet :wink:

you have yours on yet ?

MNC · Post by **MNC** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:27 pm

wopass wrote:you have yours on yet ?

Not yet, its down at a mates place getting bracket made up for A-Frame. Felt a bit lost today without it

Then sort alternator and I`m done - let me know if any one has a spare 12V alternator suitable for an FJ40 lying around.

I`ve got to get drive shafts etc first too.

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:29 pm

i have spare driveshafts...... :wink:

mercutio · Post by **mercutio** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:32 pm

i might be able to help with the driveshafts i'll have to have a close look and see what i need.
i think i will only need the universal that goes onto the worm drive of the winch but to be honest that won't happen soon as i am such a good procrastinator

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