feedback needed Runva EWX9500-Q winch

[albundy]

I bought one of those Runva 10,000lb GEw winchs back in April, have managed to blow the gearing in two now in that time. I had asked the supplier for a full refund and although he is not arguing the point he has offered to swap it for an EWX9500-Q. Has anybody out there run one of these? In both of the 10,000lb one, the sun gears and output gears let go. The assemblies are only riveted together so in my opinion they are bound to shit themselves sooner or later. Has nyone out there had one of these 9500lb ones apart, do they look weak as piss or not?
Al

[mike]

yup I ran one of these at a winch teams event. Quite a quick winch compared to the slower runva ones. It lasted the whole event till the last stage where it wouldnt winch out but would winch in. not sure what that was about but it started working again. My LR is a lot lighter than a safari though so I'm guessing the loads will be a lot less. I was doing straight pulls the whole time though.

[albundy]

Thanks Mike I suspected as much. Did the supplier know about this? He tells me he does hard 4wheeling and it hasn't let him down yet....

[NJV6]

The not winching out thing does soung more like a solinoid issue than a winch isssue though...

Had it been subjected to much water when it didn't work Mike?

[DieselBoy]

Seeing as you aren't doing competition stuff i would go for the EWX1200.

I think the 9500 might be a bit under kill for the long hard winch's you do in the bush in a Safari. Works good on the suzuki though

The main advantage with the EWX 9500 is the no load speed. Underload theres not much difference between modles. I think Shane on here with the LWB safari in Chch has put a 9500 on his truck, contact him and see how he's going??

If your going to get a Runva, definitely get the EWX series, they are a bloody nice winch for the $$$ .

[DieselBoy]

Thanks Mike I suspected as much. Did the supplier know about this? He tells me he does hard 4wheeling and it hasn't let him down yet....insert Tui ad here.
Al

He compete's in winch challenge's with one on the front of his SWB Suzuki Vitara. Still not as hard as can occasionally be encountered out in the bush though.

Like i said in earlier post, you might be better with the EWX12,000lb.

[Andrew1706]

Is the EWX series stronger then the GEW series?

I have the EWX12000 on my 80 series, hasn't been used in anger yet but from reading on this forum and dealing with an EWX9500-Q in person I feel the only thing I have to worry about is solenoids playing up.

[DieselBoy]

Is the EWX series stronger then the GEW series?

I have the EWX12000 on my 80 series, hasn't been used in anger yet but from reading on this forum and dealing with an EWX9500-Q in person I feel the only thing I have to worry about is solenoids playing up.

Just to correct you there, there aren't "solenoids" as per the old fashioned warn and superwinch winch's.

The Runva winch's have a single solenoid pack that is a factory sealed unit and 100% water tight.

The only electrical issue that has ever come to light with these winch's, beside's them being installed incorrectly, has been a little red switch on the cover that houses the solenoid pack.

These aren't water tight and will always fail. Simple task of by passing the switch when you are installing the winch

[albundy]

Thanks guys, I will talk with him about what has been discussed and see what comes.
Al

[mike]

Is the EWX series stronger then the GEW series?

I have the EWX12000 on my 80 series, hasn't been used in anger yet but from reading on this forum and dealing with an EWX9500-Q in person I feel the only thing I have to worry about is solenoids playing up.

Just to correct you there, there aren't "solenoids" as per the old fashioned warn and superwinch winch's.

The Runva winch's have a single solenoid pack that is a factory sealed unit and 100% water tight.

The only electrical issue that has ever come to light with these winch's, beside's them being installed incorrectly, has been a little red switch on the cover that houses the solenoid pack.

These aren't water tight and will always fail. Simple task of by passing the switch when you are installing the winch

so what does it mean if it just clicks? bad earth? occasionally its come right after the clicking so thought nothing really of it but this time it won't budge.

[DieselBoy]

The clicking indicates the solenoid is working.


This is all the solenoid is under the little cover that has the switch in it:



I would go and check and clean all your connections first as thats the usual problem with a misbehaving winch, if still no good wip the motor off and check there's no water or corrosion in there.

These winch's are sealed better than your Warn low mounts, but are not water proof.

The key point to remember is that they are "Good Value For Money", not "They Are The Dog's Bollix Winch"

[mike]

The key point to remember is that they are "Good Value For Money", not "They Are The Dog's Bollix Winch"

hell I know that, they are awesome for what they are. This is the first, no second problem i've had with them since I got them and I'm absolutely rapped with mine. I've done no maintenance on them, they have cost bugger all (2/3rds less than a named brand , well when I bought them). If anyone is going to break them its going to be al After all he does somehow manage to break nissans

[Sadam_Husain]

The key point to remember is that they are "Good Value For Money", not "They Are The Dog's Bollix Winch"

Never had a runva but that would sum them up well, I'm sure they are fine for general shit but its a different story when you've got stuff working long and hard, Al's going to have to step up a couple of knotchs in the winch department with the trips he's doing and the expectations in his winch

[rokhound]

Al's going to have to step up a couple of knotchs in the winch department with the trips he's doing and the expectations in his winch

Or just get a better truck that doesn't need to winch so much

yes al, I am taking the piss

[NJV6]

Mike, it is easy to check if it is a solinoid issue or a winch motor issue simply by swapping the two cables over that go to the two poles at the front of the motor. Those are the ones that control the direction.

You can either swap them at the solinoid end or the winch end.

[darinz]

What he said / /

The thing you learn very quickly is lectric winches used hard need ALOT of maintenance. I use to strip my motors down completely after EVERY hard use. I'd then check then, clean and lube then, then refit and check all power conections.
The other thing that really helps is to give the cable terminals a file (to make them flat) an then fit with a good elctric grease or copper coat etc. Power drop will kill winches quick! Really quick with the cheaper ones as in general that is one place that costs are kept down.

[haynzy]

yup I ran one of these at a winch teams event. Quite a quick winch compared to the slower runva ones. It lasted the whole event till the last stage where it wouldnt winch out but would winch in. not sure what that was about but it started working again. My LR is a lot lighter than a safari though so I'm guessing the loads will be a lot less. I was doing straight pulls the whole time though.

Did the same event with my 12000lb runva and it never missed a beat, outlasted a few new brand name winches too the trick is in the batteries and the supply line ie terminals, cable nad damn good earths

[DieselBoy]

yup I ran one of these at a winch teams event. Quite a quick winch compared to the slower runva ones. It lasted the whole event till the last stage where it wouldnt winch out but would winch in. not sure what that was about but it started working again. My LR is a lot lighter than a safari though so I'm guessing the loads will be a lot less. I was doing straight pulls the whole time though.

Did the same event with my 12000lb runva and it never missed a beat, outlasted a few new brand name winches too the trick is in the batteries and the supply line ie terminals, cable nad damn good earths

Which is the same with any electric winch

[albundy]

Al's going to have to step up a couple of knotchs in the winch department with the trips he's doing and the expectations in his winch

I hear ya Sadam, I have been trying to get hold of a PTO for a little while now, and continue to look. Both times this winch let go a safari exactly the same as mine except with 37" tyres was pulled on exactly the same incline, through exactly the same shit as I was. He had a warn 8000lb and mine a GEW 10,000lb. You would think it would handle it, that is why I question the quality. I have spoken with supplier about the 12,000lb and see what happens. I have married up the runva motor to the warn 8000lb so I can do the Reerfton Challenge next weekend. When testing it under load, I had it on an incline, inlow 1st gear with handbrake on. I had the ignition on to work the winch. Truck skull dragged 1/2 metter then started itself, had to run after it so it didn't run into tree. This tells me the 8000lb is good enough for now I hope.
Al

[Shane]

Seeing as you aren't doing competition stuff i would go for the EWX1200.

I think the 9500 might be a bit under kill for the long hard winch's you do in the bush in a Safari. Works good on the suzuki though

The main advantage with the EWX 9500 is the no load speed. Underload theres not much difference between modles. I think Shane on here with the LWB safari in Chch has put a 9500 on his truck, contact him and see how he's going??

If your going to get a Runva, definitely get the EWX series, they are a bloody nice winch for the $$$ .

My friend has the 9500 on his SWB safari,went to lake daniels last week end and did one short winch under high load and vehicle died(engine stopped)couldnt start afterwards.winch was drawing current when not being used.we disconnected main winch power cable jumped started vehicle.alternator not working.
there was a lot of mud/silty shit there.3 of the 4 nissans had over heating problems and 2 stopped charging.2 other vehicles had over heating problems also by the end of weekend.

I cant say its the winches fault as we dont know when alternator died,winch had just been fitted,all connections were good.

Had a ball though

I have a pto on mine now,untested at this stage(I didnt take my truck)

Shane