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just wondering how many ks have done since turbo? an if any problems? what you used an how it works fir you?

my 1st one i done has done 140ish k on 16psi still going strong just has lost a bit of compression build just from wear etc..

just interested

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how do i delete this? as waste of time
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tui_man2 wrote:how do i delete this? as waste of time



I think you will find people are still waiting for your Pic's of your custom manifolds and general info on your setup's etc

I personally wasnt asking for info and pic's but from the other posts of your's I gather thats why you are getting no replys anymore so maybe post or e-mail the pics or list more info on your kits then go from there.
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haydgq wrote:
tui_man2 wrote:how do i delete this? as waste of time



I think you will find people are still waiting for your Pic's of your custom manifolds and general info on your setup's etc

I personally wasnt asking for info and pic's but from the other posts of your's I gather thats why you are getting no replys anymore so maybe post or e-mail the pics or list more info on your kits then go from there.



i did wonder that, im no computer wize an have to get the cd thing to install the camera stuff off my file at work so i can post them up here sorry, just do it for hobby etc as it bit off fun in 22 an a engineer that likes to play etc. cheers tho i will get on to photos tho asap,

anything anyone want to know ask away im happy to answer anything if i know as have limited knowlage have been it the 4x4 scene for 5 years? a been turboing trucks ect for 3.5? years

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if any one wants to ask anything fire away information on my 'kits' etc, its not really a 'kit' as such i make it to suit your truck an your needs etc power, perforance, price wise

not fan on real cheep an nasty as it bits your arse most the time it chinese cheep turbos, j pipes etc, cheers abe

ready to answer anything an are trying to sort the photos etc out for you.
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Yeah can I have some pics of your tube manifolds.
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flyingbrick wrote:Yeah can I have some pics of your tube manifolds.



yip you can i just got to try grt them on here but i will for you sorry for hold up, i have photos of them on the truck on my trademe action, but ill put some up here with them not on truck

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have few pis etc of the kits etc that i can do an different set ups if you want to know anyhting just as but im sur most of you on here already know

dont know why im putting this on where or started it just was out of interest but im sure most of you have your own ideas set an is pointly my trying

but here goes...... what you guys think????

link is:

http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/builds/ ... urbo-setup

as it the easyest way i found to put them on sorry

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tui_man2 wrote:have few pis etc of the kits etc that i can do an different set ups if you want to know anyhting just as but im sur most of you on here already know

dont know why im putting this on where or started it just was out of interest but im sure most of you have your own ideas set an is pointly my trying

but here goes...... what you guys think????

link is:

http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/builds/ ... urbo-setup

as it the easyest way i found to put them on sorry

cheers abe


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PS- love your pipework on the top mount 8)

can you put up any bigger pics? or e-mail them to me nathans.e.mail@gmail.com

I'm mostly wanting pics of manifold.
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flyingbrick wrote:PS- love your pipework on the top mount 8)

can you put up any bigger pics? or e-mail them to me nathans.e.mail@gmail.com

I'm mostly wanting pics of manifold.



log manifold wasnt it? i cant find pics of them than i too on ench but then selfs but i am making a spare one this week i hope a t3 turbo flange.

it resized them to that size by its self to make them fit, how do i make them bigger?

cheers for that, its the first postive feedback i have had on here, was going to give up a just go on work of mouth like i have been, just do it for fun in spare time not a job just a hobbie

there is a little bit of a stainless manifold on ther in one pic an the turbo way a garret gt2870r, it has a 38mm tail external wastegate mounted underneath also with i forgot to get unter neath of it to get also sorry, aways forget to take photos as i go im normaly pushed for time to get them mounted
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flyingbrick wrote:
tui_man2 wrote:have few pis etc of the kits etc that i can do an different set ups if you want to know anyhting just as but im sur most of you on here already know

dont know why im putting this on where or started it just was out of interest but im sure most of you have your own ideas set an is pointly my trying

but here goes...... what you guys think????

link is:

http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/builds/ ... urbo-setup

as it the easyest way i found to put them on sorry

cheers abe


Are you drunk or something?



drunk?? whys that??
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It was never really about your work- people just jumped on you because of how you introduced yourself (talking about your own adds in 3rd person etc like you did)

Your stainless pipe work etc is far better than most of us could do 8)
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flyingbrick wrote:It was never really about your work- people just jumped on you because of how you introduced yourself (talking about your own adds in 3rd person etc like you did)

Your stainless pipe work etc is far better than most of us could do 8)



year my bad :(

id like to see some peoples different home jobs a see how they done it etc, as we all knoe they are fat slugs with no turbo an people these days always tend to go cheap an nasty with 'j' pipe etc i just refuze to do them that way an with no intercooler i dont see the poin in not intercooling thm easy extra power
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excellent work man, very neat and tidy. could i have a price on just a basic log manifold?? very interested
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Safari Swb wrote:excellent work man, very neat and tidy. could i have a price on just a basic log manifold?? very interested



hey be round the 3500 400 mark al machined faces etc, havnt had one crack etc out of 17 :)
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SS manifolds and 4x4 don't go together long term. You'll get far better results from heavy wall steam pipe but obviously a lot harder to tuned length turbo manifolds but can be done.
That isn't a coment on the quality of your work, just some long term experience.
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Safari Swb wrote:excellent work man, very neat and tidy. could i have a price on just a basic log manifold?? very interested



yip i will get them up in weekend after making nother one :D cheers
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hey couple questions,

the truck running the garret whats the A/R spec's??

what kinda boost you run?

and what is the highest EGT temps you stick to?

if you put your foot flat to the foor in say 3rd gear what rpm do you get say 10psi??

your work looks great aye keep it up

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darinz wrote:SS manifolds and 4x4 don't go together long term. You'll get far better results from heavy wall steam pipe but obviously a lot harder to tuned length turbo manifolds but can be done.
That isn't a coment on the quality of your work, just some long term experience.



i have done a frw now an have found the hot cold doesnt affect them in anyway as diesels dont get hot enough to affect them enough, have tryed steam pipe an it can be done but is getting heavy when it is done so i stick ro the stainless

but cheers man i want iput thats why i have put it up here
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jA- wrote:hey couple questions,

the truck running the garret whats the A/R spec's??

what kinda boost you run?

and what is the highest EGT temps you stick to?

if you put your foot flat to the foor in say 3rd gear what rpm do you get say 10psi??

your work looks great aye keep it up

chur Jacob



hey

it depends i dont have a set turbo that i use as change most time to suit what people want, always use the garret gt series turbos have fit from a gt2871rs to a gt3582

normaly run round 15psi give or take

etg one i doe in weekend there is a hill out of nelson called spooners range? if you may know it a long medium climb gave it to it in 5th all the way an kept pulling up an over top an just got to 609C then backed off an instantly would start dropping back to round 340-420ish normal running

3rd gear flat depends on what turbo smaller ones round 1600rmp medium round 1850-1900rmp bigger gt32 gt35s etc between 2500-2900 but then they will pull hard alway to red line an keep going

in my old truck would rev round to 0 again a still be pulling at 18psi

all depends what you want etc

cheers hope was some help :D
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jA- wrote:hey couple questions,

the truck running the garret whats the A/R spec's??

what kinda boost you run?

and what is the highest EGT temps you stick to?

if you put your foot flat to the foor in say 3rd gear what rpm do you get say 10psi??

your work looks great aye keep it up

chur Jacob


My old truck had 2 psi at 1000rpm, had 14psi at 2000rpm and hit 21 at 2700rpm. The boost dropped back to 18psi at 4200 but in reality beyond 3500rpm was a waste of time due to it still running a standard fuel pump (with fuel wound up).
The turbo was a standard Safari T3 and Safari won't tell what the specifc A/R's are.
(sorry truck was auto so can't give the feedback you wanted)
We are running the same turbo system on a worked TD42 (ported head, cam, injectors, hybrid fuel pump, custom phlenum, I/C, etc) and that is running out of turbo at 26psi. It is running 550 egt's and that is after a long high speed climb in 5th gear!
If you are getting 600*c with 15psi then it is over fueling and wasting fuel for no real gain in power! 15psi is a conservative boost level for a TD42 and as such there is no real point in running egt's above 500 to 550*C.
550*C seems to be a sweet spot where you get really good performance without too (!) much overfueling and little impact on engine life.

If you are racing then anything up to 650*C is OK and at 700*C you have an engine life span that is measured in seconds not minutes. (like less than a minute and things start melting!)

As for hot and cold. Try going from full noise and then drive into a river etc and see how long your SS manifold lasts! Like I said, for off road SS manifolds don't last. For onroad as a tow wagon or never really getting dirty then SS is great and yes the EGT's are alot less than a petrol so it is all good.
My turboed VH45 has heavy steam pipe manifolds for the exact same reason.

I like Tuimans attitude where by it isn't a bolt on kit. There is a place for it but you also need understand the work envirnment. If I came along and you gave me a SS manifold, I'd be back pretty soon to get it fixed after driving into water when red hot.

I suggest you build both, one for onroad and then a specifc heavy duty offroad version. Then it is the customers choice.
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darinz wrote:
jA- wrote:hey couple questions,

the truck running the garret whats the A/R spec's??

what kinda boost you run?

and what is the highest EGT temps you stick to?

if you put your foot flat to the foor in say 3rd gear what rpm do you get say 10psi??

your work looks great aye keep it up

chur Jacob


My old truck had 2 psi at 1000rpm, had 14psi at 2000rpm and hit 21 at 2700rpm. The boost dropped back to 18psi at 4200 but in reality beyond 3500rpm was a waste of time due to it still running a standard fuel pump (with fuel wound up).
The turbo was a standard Safari T3 and Safari won't tell what the specifc A/R's are.
(sorry truck was auto so can't give the feedback you wanted)
We are running the same turbo system on a worked TD42 (ported head, cam, injectors, hybrid fuel pump, custom phlenum, I/C, etc) and that is running out of turbo at 26psi. It is running 550 egt's and that is after a long high speed climb in 5th gear!
If you are getting 600*c with 15psi then it is over fueling and wasting fuel for no real gain in power! 15psi is a conservative boost level for a TD42 and as such there is no real point in running egt's above 500 to 550*C.
550*C seems to be a sweet spot where you get really good performance without too (!) much overfueling and little impact on engine life.

If you are racing then anything up to 650*C is OK and at 700*C you have an engine life span that is measured in seconds not minutes. (like less than a minute and things start melting!)

As for hot and cold. Try going from full noise and then drive into a river etc and see how long your SS manifold lasts! Like I said, for off road SS manifolds don't last. For onroad as a tow wagon or never really getting dirty then SS is great and yes the EGT's are alot less than a petrol so it is all good.
My turboed VH45 has heavy steam pipe manifolds for the exact same reason.

I like Tuimans attitude where by it isn't a bolt on kit. There is a place for it but you also need understand the work envirnment. If I came along and you gave me a SS manifold, I'd be back pretty soon to get it fixed after driving into water when red hot.

I suggest you build both, one for onroad and then a specifc heavy duty offroad version. Then it is the customers choice.



hey

year i dont do a kit as everyone wants different things, on its only a perk job that i do anyway not a job just on the side in my own time normly do whol thing from wo to go in weekend

i have never used anything as small as a straight t3 on a safari, have on a 3.2 navara, t3/t4 is the smallest i have used so all are higher revs to spool up thats why i tend to use garret gt series ball bearing turbos

i do make both as options as i do agree with you the heavy steel pipe puts up with lot more, an the standard cast manifold is a heavy fat bitch anyway

i have make a couple of intake pleniums, 3 froun facing an 1 better flowing top mount style to.

an in the process of stroking an bring a 4.2 safari to a 5-5.8L ish?

year i know they die fast from 700c it is a big long hill thats why in got to what it did maybe 4k long climb?? an thrashed it all the way to see what it would get to

i started this to see interest an peoples different ideas, pros an cons etc
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hey tui man, got some photos of your intake plenums?? what sort of cost could i be looking at for one??
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gary_in_nz wrote:hey tui man, got some photos of your intake plenums?? what sort of cost could i be looking at for one??



front facing? sorry i dont as were on computer when i f#@ked out with a virus, am going to be making another front facing soon for my stock will put them up then sorry
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Be interested in hearing more about the stroking project. No body seems to have put much effort into boring or stroking TD42's so good to see someone thinking outside the square.

One thing to think about is the EGT's on a TD42 normally peak low down thw rev range and not at 400rpm. I would suggest you check your at below 2000rpm to see what it does there.
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darinz wrote:Be interested in hearing more about the stroking project. No body seems to have put much effort into boring or stroking TD42's so good to see someone thinking outside the square.

One thing to think about is the EGT's on a TD42 normally peak low down thw rev range and not at 400rpm. I would suggest you check your at below 2000rpm to see what it does there.



will keep informed about the stroking an boring way going to make program an machine a new billet crank out of 4340 but is so much in it to get it right, i have herd no one do that just do turbo a pump maybe cams etc but never herd of a stroked one so thought it was time :D

have checked under 2000rpm in different gears under revs an under nt much revs just heavy load an got 6oo tops thrashing it up hill, but then back off gas an would instantly come back
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Im sure ive read somewhere that you cant bore them a hell of a lot because its really close to a water gallery. May not be correct though.

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Lynx wrote:Im sure ive read somewhere that you cant bore them a hell of a lot because its really close to a water gallery. May not be correct though.

Cheers Daniel



bugger all roon to bore them any way have removed liners an will make pistons to suit is the idea, as with the liners out there is bugger all between the bores, then the crank also, doing the calculatios to see what L it will be
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have heard of guys boring out to 4.5 litres but nothing more than that will be interesting to see how it goes...

im runing a tdo5 at the moment has good spool up, most i've had it up to is 26psi at about 3000rpm but the egt's r round the 620-650 so dont let it go that high very often....

need to get my injector pump recond so that mite be stuffn me up a bit but im pretty happy with it for now!!! :D :D
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