Safari auto/manual combination free wheel hubs

[shroom]

Does anyone rebuild these, or know where to get parts, or if you can get parts?
I pulled mine off because they were clicking madly when engaged.. to find a small thin flat shiney piece connected to the clutch, which rides on a bearing and is then held onto the inner hub via a circlip on the outer axle shaft.
On both my hubs, the circlip is bent slightly in a cone shape, and the washers behind the circlip is also coned and looks cracked all around, so it appears its old, and has received some stress in its life.

Any help offers, or info i can get would be great, as currently i dont have 4wd

[albundy]

You should be able to go to any decent hardware store and match that washer and circlip. I did.
Al

[shroom]

You should be able to go to any decent hardware store and match that washer and circlip. I did.
Al

good thinking! ill try that for the washer and snapring...
only problem is the piece of the hub that will need replacing, which also seems to be held in with a snapring!
May have to call nissan, but they are damned expensive for new parts!
I was hoping someone had removed their auto hubs for manual ones and would have what i need sitting in a box somewhere - ill upload a photo of it later tonight

[curly12]

Photo's would be good. I have one that is a bit worse for wear, fucked basicly, but may have the part you need there.
I reversed the internals on mine and made them into manual hubs only

[shroom]

Photo's would be good. I have one that is a bit worse for wear, fucked basicly, but may have the part you need there.
I reversed the internals on mine and made them into manual hubs only

How exactly do you reverse the internals in them?
I found a post on the patrol4x4.com forums semi explaining this, but it basically said to take them off, and remove from the inner hub, the clutch unit - which senses if the axle is spinning and engages the freewheel hub...any chance of some photo's of what you removed and how? I may have to do the same thing...

Also, i think the bearing which the axle runs on through the hub is shot, as one side, the axle wobbles - the other its tight...

[albundy]

I reversed the internals on mine and made them into manual hubs only

Ah, that's what I did wrong, I removed mine but the locking mechanism would not engage properly half the time. Must give this a try.

I found a post on the patrol4x4.com forums semi explaining this, but it basically said to take them off, and remove from the inner hub, the clutch unit - which senses if the axle is spinning and engages the freewheel hub...any

Try a wreckers for a replacement set. Once those clips on the clutch are gone they are unfixable. I stuffed one doing the above mod.

Photo's would be good. I have one that is a bit worse for wear, fucked basicly, but may have the part you need there.
I reversed the internals on mine and made them into manual hubs only

Also, i think the bearing which the axle runs on through the hub is shot, as one side, the axle wobbles - the other its tight...

Yep, theres a small needle/roller bearing inside the spindle. Either worn to buggery or needs grease.
Hope this all helps.
Al

[shroom]

http://i963.photobucket.com/albums/ae118/mrandrewdh/09032010109.jpg
http://i963.photobucket.com/albums/ae118/mrandrewdh/09032010108.jpg
http://i963.photobucket.com/albums/ae118/mrandrewdh/09032010107.jpg

Above are the pictures of the clutches, showing the broken one.
Is someone able to explain the correct and full procedure of 'reversing' these so the hubs become manual only, as perhaps this is a cheap fix for my broken bits
Sorry about the url's but i edited the pics to be smaller and it still wouldnt take them...801 pixles???

[albundy]

Those pieces in the pics, I think he is meaning turn them back to front, see if they fit. Should do if you remove the outer seal for the bearing. I took those pieces out all together but the locking mecanism for the hub would fall out of its bearing race inside the hub and not engae properly.
Give it a go and let us know what happens.
Al

[shroom]

Those pieces in the pics, I think he is meaning turn them back to front, see if they fit. Should do if you remove the outer seal for the bearing. I took those pieces out all together but the locking mecanism for the hub would fall out of its bearing race inside the hub and not engae properly.
Give it a go and let us know what happens.
Al

I took mine out and had the exact same problem - the hubs would disengage on slow cornering, or engine braking down hills and make a hell of a noise!
Last night I tried to reverse the clutch unit, but could not fit the hub back on afterwards - so something was blocking it.
The bearing race you mentioned, is that on the clutch mechanism, the inner hub, or the outer hub?
I will take more/better photo's tonight as I'd like to fully clarify this for futre modders...

I think I may go with the 4wdbits copies...
http://www.4wdbits.co.nz/ProductDetails.aspx?productID=1485

[Swamped]

Yeah I'm having the same problems mentioned. They work fine if its just toodling down to the duck pond but they're being more and more unreliable on anysort of downhill. The noise they make and the engaging is quite violent too.....itl click for ages and then go bang and drive the wheels. This is when they are in the locked position too. Don't even bother with the auto position when in 4wd anymore.
I'm fitting some of those force hubs too so soon all the auto hub problems will disappear.

[albundy]

There is a race on the very inside of the hub that holds the locking mechanism in. I gave up on the mod. Have made it back into an "auto/lock" and put on right hub for strength and refitted the superwinch one to the left. (got a front lokka). Ugly and I get heaps of comments but so far it has worked the best.
Al

[shroom]

There is a race on the very inside of the hub that holds the locking mechanism in. I gave up on the mod. Have made it back into an "auto/lock" and put on right hub for strength and refitted the superwinch one to the left. (got a front lokka). Ugly and I get heaps of comments but so far it has worked the best.
Al

the inner hub, or the outter?
I will take another look tonight and get some more photo's for you guys...but im thinking, next week ill just buy a set of those hubs frm 4wdbits

[Taz]

There is a race on the very inside of the hub that holds the locking mechanism in. I gave up on the mod. Have made it back into an "auto/lock" and put on right hub for strength and refitted the superwinch one to the left. (got a front lokka). Ugly and I get heaps of comments but so far it has worked the best.
Al

the inner hub, or the outter?
I will take another look tonight and get some more photo's for you guys...but im thinking, next week ill just buy a set of those hubs frm 4wdbits

Would still be good to sort the ones you have and keep them as spares.

[shroom]

HECK YES!

[albundy]

the inner hub, or the outter?

Now you've lost me
What I mean is if you remove the hub, and take the bit in your photo out, you have a hub with the axle locking mechanism left. If you pull this out, there is a race that holds it in place. I think that not only do the parts in your pics act as the auto clutch for the hub, it also acts a a spacer to hold the locking mechanism in place. These are stronger then aftermarket hubs, hence why I wanted to convert the auto to free. Didn't work.
Al