how reilable are these land rover / range rover things

[skidtoy]

ive seen afew quite nice trucks in the auzzie mags but just wouldnt how they are as far as getting parts,cost of parts etc in NZ are...??? ive never touched one befor so just asking at this put cos im on the look out for a new truck and was thinking bout maybe trying one if it wont cost an arm and leg when i break thing.

cheers

[stinky]

I got a 01 p38 so far its done the xfer box air con over heated and a few other things but its soooo good i sort of dont mind

[haydgq]

ive seen afew quite nice trucks in the auzzie mags but just wouldnt how they are as far as getting parts,cost of parts etc in NZ are...??? ive never touched one befor so just asking at this put cos im on the look out for a new truck and was thinking bout maybe trying one if it wont cost an arm and leg when i break thing.

cheers

The 4.0 and 4.6 HSE p38's are the ones to stay away from unless you love spending money, There's a good reason why they can be had on the used market VERY cheap and a older Cruiser/patrol or similar year Prado will still go for a lot more coin.

What models are you looking at.?, The defenders are sought after and hold there value, A mate of mine has been trying to find a V8 90 for years now as when they get on the used market they are crazy prices, He currently has a 3 door rangie and its very capable and hasnt let him down yet, well it blew the rear diff so he has fitted the larger spline Disco gear to it, and it always pops out of high range when on the road but apart from that its awesome but if you can get a later model Rangie with the 3.5 or 3.9 efi engine

[skidtoy]

i dont really know the difference between the models or the chassis codes.was looking at the later model ones form 1990 on

[malfunction]

ive seen afew quite nice trucks in the auzzie mags but just wouldnt how they are as far as getting parts,cost of parts etc in NZ are...??? ive never touched one befor so just asking at this put cos im on the look out for a new truck and was thinking bout maybe trying one if it wont cost an arm and leg when i break thing.

cheers

The 4.0 and 4.6 HSE p38's are the ones to stay away from unless you love spending money, There's a good reason why they can be had on the used market VERY cheap and a older Cruiser/patrol or similar year Prado will still go for a lot more coin.

What models are you looking at.?, The defenders are sought after and hold there value, A mate of mine has been trying to find a V8 90 for years now as when they get on the used market they are crazy prices, He currently has a 3 door rangie and its very capable and hasnt let him down yet, well it blew the rear diff so he has fitted the larger spline Disco gear to it, and it always pops out of high range when on the road but apart from that its awesome but if you can get a later model Rangie with the 3.5 or 3.9 efi engine

I have a 1990 3.9 fuel injected v8 for sale. 221000k very good condition. $3500

[Stage1V8]

So many models, so many choices **sigh**

You need to say what you want to do and follow from there. Remember these things have been around for 60-odd years now and the range has evolved, as you would expect. And they are driven by market forces so Deffies are not cheap and 90's only come onto the market sporadically because, well, they are damned good machines and their owners will not let them go.

A good entry into the scene is a Disco import, V8, with relatively low miles. You can pick them up in good nick for 3 1/2 to 5 grand. Parts are easy to come by, both new and second hand, and generally they are very cheap compared with Toyota parts. There's a huge range of aftermarket accessories for just about every eventuality.

I am sure there's a local LR club near you (there's quite a few in NZ). Get in touch and talk to the guys who actually know what they're talking about, the ones who own and abuse them. They will probably also know if there are any good deals happening locally.

[lokrite]

Im onto my 6th lrover a 110 rebuild my last 110 for 13 years huge kms only it got rolled 10 times and still drove home , the main trick Ive found is get a good workshop manual and do your own maintenance. the 3.5 and 3.9s in my opinion need oil changes between 5 -7000 kms just gtx2 is fine but they will pay you back with long life also ditch the lucas dizzy for a hei conversion(cheap as)

[williamhamilton]

I have a mate in Akl with a '96 (I think) Rangie for sale 4.6V8 dark green - looking for about $3500 I think. Will get mileage if of interest.

W

[rangeynz]

The 4.0 and 4.6 HSE p38's are the ones to stay away from unless you love spending money, There's a good reason why they can be had on the used market VERY cheap and a older Cruiser/patrol or similar year Prado will still go for a lot more coin.

What a crock of sh1t. There are spare parts for them all over trademe and wreckers. I have a 96 Nissan Navara Ute and I cant even find a passenger mirror. I have more chance finding one for my Range Rover. So far I have changed my brakes, serviced it 3 times and put mud tyres on + replaced a CV Joint. I have done serveral big trips to wellington plus the cape and it has been a comfortable/reliable car. On the highway it uses the same amount of gas as a 3500 Pajero V6. Offroad the 4.6 v8 has loads of power and with the factory traction control its like having a locker.

[haydgq]

The 4.0 and 4.6 HSE p38's are the ones to stay away from unless you love spending money, There's a good reason why they can be had on the used market VERY cheap and a older Cruiser/patrol or similar year Prado will still go for a lot more coin.

What a crock of sh1t. There are spare parts for them all over trademe and wreckers. I have a 96 Nissan Navara Ute and I cant even find a passenger mirror. I have more chance finding one for my Range Rover. So far I have changed my brakes, serviced it 3 times and put mud tyres on + replaced a CV Joint. I have done serveral big trips to wellington plus the cape and it has been a comfortable/reliable car. On the highway it uses the same amount of gas as a 3500 Pajero V6. Offroad the 4.6 v8 has loads of power and with the factory traction control its like having a locker.

When did i say there were no spare parts for them.?? Of course theres spare parts around for trucks that always shit themselves, Gee i wonder why you can't find parts for the Nissan

The guy asked for advice and i gave it, they are known to be range rovers worst model and even the Rangie loving poms hate this model and dont recommend buying one without a warranty, Do a search on-line about the P38 rangie and see what you find with its air bag suspention and general wiring/elec probs then the engine probs follow after.

I know as I did a lot of reading and asking around about them as was thinking of buying one for my Hilux.

Way better of buying a Disco or older Classic rangie.

[DieselBoy]

Just buy a Toyota like the everyone else

You will never have any problems with a Toyota

[lilpigzuk]

The guy asked for advice and i gave it, they are known to be range rovers worst model and even the Rangie loving poms hate this model and dont recommend buying one without a warranty, Do a search on-line about the P38 rangie and see what you find with its air bag suspention and general wiring/elec probs then the engine probs follow after.

I know as I did a lot of reading and asking around about them as was thinking of buying one for my Hilux.

Way better of buying a Disco or older Classic rangie.

You can get coil conversion kits for the P38 now, reasonably cheap in standard and lifted heights. Gets rid of their major problem. Not sure about the general wiring probs you speak of? For the price you can get them now, I think they could be turned into quite a cool off roader.
Main concern with Series 1 Disco's and classic rangies would be rust, be sure to check them out if you go looking at them. Grab a LRO mag or similar, the for sale section has a run down of "known" (common) problems associated to each model, helps when looking.
As per usual (see above post) the ones that say "Of course theres spare parts around for trucks that always shit themselves"
they have never owned one, but "I read it on the internet so it must be true"

[haydgq]

As per usual (see above post) the ones that say "Of course theres spare parts around for trucks that always shit themselves"
they have never owned one, but "I read it on the internet so it must be true" [/quote]

Like i said i spoke to a lot of people and also Rangie mechanics etc, I also have 2 uncles that have owned them so your comment about me just reading it on the Internet is shite as i never stated thats were i got all my info from.

Its the advice based on what i know so take it with a grain of salt and if you dont like it to bad, But its not hard to search the net and find out more about the P38 but of course all these people complaining about them online are just making it up for the hell of it.

Toyota and Nissan like all manufactures have there major probs with some models aswell but the guy posting wasn't asking about other makes so its irrelevant and thats also another story

[skidtoy]

thanks for the info,i will post a link for the model i like so any info would be nice as i dont have a clue bout this brit weapons.

if i do buy one im looking for a standard truck as i run a store which give access to parts/tyres etc i would be wanting to do a big lift and the like of 35s because i love some of the trucks i see in the 4wd auction mags.

...as far as just getting a toyota,i have 1 now and have had afew in perth when i was living there(hiluxs and a 80 on 37's)...i am just looking at wanting to try something different since they seem to get good reviews

[skidtoy]

opps forgot to add a link for the type of thing im looking at

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 774137.htm

[williamhamilton]

opps forgot to add a link for the type of thing im looking at

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 774137.htm

I had the exact model for a while fun capable on and off road. I remember chasing an SS Commodore in mine round some twisties and it did rather well. once you go past the initial lean (I AM FALLING I AM FALLING) it settles in and scoots around.

I overheated tranny once in the sand on the South Coast of Welly, broke a few bits and scratched a few more during some off road trips. Fun but if you break anything open your wallet wide or take the opportunity to buy enhancements and open your wallet wider

W

[nstacey]

You'll break things a lot with 35's on a Disco.
A lot of people go to 235/85/16 which is 32' as a good compromise between breaking stuff and performance. There are a few threads on here about this.

[skidtoy]

im not too worried about the cost of buying suspension lift parts as my old flatmate in perth works at perth4x4 so i can get aftermarket parts easy enough.anyone else played with these

[Stage1V8]

Great wagons. They do have weak points, but they are well documented. Doesn't take much to turn them into excellent off-road machines.

The only thing I am not too keen on is the departure angle - more of an annoyance really. The rear hangs out a long way and tends to swing up and down a lot. Harder springs/shocks on the rear would help. Don't know about that year but the one I have allows you to raise the rear on the airbags to prevent that.

Have your muddies on another set of wheels and you have a great family wagon too.

[badnuz]

im not too worried about the cost of buying suspension lift parts as my old flatmate in perth works at perth4x4 so i can get aftermarket parts easy enough.

or support local???

[skidtoy]

i dont think i would have a truck on anything less than 35's now.

support local,if i could get it cheap enough and a bolt in kit i would...but i can a kit which will do a 6inch sus lift that comes with all the parts needed to do a big lift for way cheaper than i could ever buy,get parts made here etc i do susport local as i use autolign whenever i can and maxxis nz.the fact that i have the contacts in perth to get parts which you cant in nz i would be stupid not to use.

[Stage1V8]

i dont think i would have a truck on anything less than 35's now.

Guess it depends on what you want to do. I am happy with 750-16's. That's ummm 32".

support local,if i could get it cheap enough and a bolt in kit i would

Well, there is really no such thing. There are bolt in parts but there's a whole more to the job than just stuffing the bits in there. Remember that it needs to be certified too if it's over 2" now (although that is likely to change too).

but i can a kit which will do a 6inch sus lift that comes with all the parts needed to do a big lift for way cheaper than i could ever buy,

Good god man, 6" ??? Why so high???? What you going to do, swamp wading in the Waikato peat swamps or something? That height will make it pretty damn unstable unless you do some pretty extensive alterations to the suspension. Why not just get portal axles instead? Be cheaper in the long run.

[Bulletproof]

Landrovers have the best designs when it come to articulation on a standard truck and are one of the most capable.

You said you will be happy with nothing less than 35s.

So my advice to you is buy a Toyota because Landrover quality is shit and you will just break the drive chain all the time.

Cheers Richard

[skidtoy]

i dont think i would have a truck on anything less than 35's now.

Guess it depends on what you want to do. I am happy with 750-16's. That's ummm 32".

support local,if i could get it cheap enough and a bolt in kit i would

Well, there is really no such thing. There are bolt in parts but there's a whole more to the job than just stuffing the bits in there. Remember that it needs to be certified too if it's over 2" now (although that is likely to change too).

but i can a kit which will do a 6inch sus lift that comes with all the parts needed to do a big lift for way cheaper than i could ever buy,

Good god man, 6" ??? Why so high???? What you going to do, swamp wading in the Waikato peat swamps or something? That height will make it pretty damn unstable unless you do some pretty extensive alterations to the suspension. Why not just get portal axles instead? Be cheaper in the long run.

cos bigger is always better.well better for where i like to play...4 inches just isnt quite enough ive found on acouple of trucks.my hilux in perth i had a 5inch suspension lift and 3inch body and it was just high enough to get though some of the rock sections on the tracks and that was with bfg 37's...i dont build trucks for speed but to be able to drive over whats in front of them.

if i was going to go with a truck from the japs it would be a patrol with i am still thinking about switching too...as leafs are over rated and the cursiers with springs have piss weak diffs so its no different to a range rover the way i see it.

[Bulletproof]

Sounds like you have made your mind up so all I can say is .

BEST OF BRITISH and bloody good luck.

Cheers Richard

[Navara_Man]

hey all

i had the same conclusion about the land rovers a few months back, was deciding on a v8 land rover or the 2.5TD model's, either that or a nissan patrol or a toyota hilux.

Ended going for the old bomb proof Nissan Datsun Td27 haha 1987!

goes well and was under $3000

but the landrovers from i can tell were used back in the day through most of the wars we have had eg WW2, Korea, Vientanam and still used by the armed forces today.

The patrols and hilux's are still some of the best 4WD's that came out of the asia'n market i rekon and if you have the money to buy any of the three then go for it haha if i did i would have!

like any vehicle whether it be a motorbike, 4WD, tractor etc. everyone has there favourites, and depending on what you do to them and how you treat them then thats how good they will be ??? Am i not right???

some guys like toyota and swear by them, others like Nissans and some like suzuiki or isuzu.

Although yes some models that are bought out of any kind are just SHIT !!!
like the isuzu wizards or mu's with the 3.0l TD (dont touch them) i learnt the hard way!

[Bulletproof]

Please don't think I am biased toward Toyota.

I own one modified hilux and 5 landrovers.

I would never use the landrovers off road because they will just smash something but the Hilux I give death and in 15 years of extreme fourwheeling I have always driven home.

Cheers Richard

[Stage1V8]

but the landrovers from i can tell were used back in the day through most of the wars we have had eg WW2, Korea, Vientanam and still used by the armed forces today.

Not quite.

There were no Land Rovers during WW2. NZ Army do not use Land Rovers anymore.

[Stage1V8]

I would never use the landrovers off road because they will just smash something

Says more about you than the machine

[Bulletproof]

I would never use the landrovers off road because they will just smash something

Says more about you than the machine

How come the Hilux always get me home if I am such a terrible driver?

Cheers Richard