12v to 24v worn winch

[fatdog]

gidday to you all
new bloke on the block ive just got me a 9000lb winch for my 80series cruiser but it is only 12v and my cruiser is 24v is there any way around this
thanks
.....help.....

[red-devil]

are you shour your 80serie is 24 volt run.

many are 24 volt start but run at 12 volts.

mine is 12 run with the 24 v start

jono

[fatdog]

hi jono
Im not sure? thats just what i got told... How would i find out?

Aaron

[fatdog]

its a 1992 vx limited

[mudlva]

best of both world here
if you wire the winch to the starter side you will draw 24vlot if you conect to the battery direct then its only 12V, I would susgest looking for a 24 v motor and sell the 12v unit as the 24v is heeps stronger and will draw less amps making the batterys last longer for the amount of pulling if that all makes sence

[niblik]

i have a 24 volt winch that i'm wantin to make 12v..

and you want the opposite..

interesting..

possible trade perhaps?

[DieselBoy]

its a 1992 vx limited

It is a 12volt system.

Wire the winch to the drivers side battery.

Behind the passengers side battery is a little solenoid that switchs the system over to 24V momentarily to start the engine, once started, it goes back to 12V.

You can't hook the winch up to the passenger side battery , as during start up, the +'v terminal reads 24 volts for a few seconds untill the engine starts.

Unfortunatly for Nibz you can't run a 24v winch on the 80 series system, unless you run an extra alternator that is 24v and a 3rd battery.

[niblik]

well seein i'm not goin 24v set up, i'm shit outta luck huh?

[mudlva]

the 80 series winches are 24v and are wired to the starter side of the switching relay. so if you wire your winch in the same setup as toyota do the you wilalso have a 24v winch sypply.
that is still far better then a 12v system

[red-devil]

my factroy winch is 12 volt as i followed the leads back to the drivers side battery.

[DieselBoy]

the 80 series winches are 24v and are wired to the starter side of the switching relay. so if you wire your winch in the same setup as toyota do the you wilalso have a 24v winch sypply.
that is still far better then a 12v system

No they are FUCKEN NOT !!!!!!!!!

Get your facts straight before you blow the electric's up on this guys truck!!!!!!!

I have a factory winch on my cruiser, it is 12v, as with everyone else's on here.

Don't post unless you know what your talking about FFS

[mudlva]

the 80 series winches are 24v and are wired to the starter side of the switching relay. so if you wire your winch in the same setup as toyota do the you wilalso have a 24v winch sypply.
that is still far better then a 12v system

No they are FUCKEN NOT !!!!!!!!!

Get your facts straight before you blow the electric's up on this guys truck!!!!!!!

I have a factory winch on my cruiser, it is 12v, as with everyone else's on here.

Don't post unless you know what your talking about FFS

NO 1 Get F---Ked
the starters on the deisels are 24 v with a switching relay to the second battery to get the 24 v system going my bro in laws truck is running a factory winch and its is a 24v motor. I KNOW this because its been into the sparky to get serviced

SO BEFORE YOU LOOSE A VEIN TO ECXCESSIVE BLOOD PREASURE HOW ABOUTS YOU GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT aseWIPE

[DieselBoy]

Wow, sorry, I must be wrong.

[fatdog]

Thank you all for your halp that makes me happy to here
i bought the right thing
now i just have to figure out what wire goes were
as there is a red lead black lead red tip lead yellow tip lead
and a little black wire and black one from the winch i think i no
were the red and black one goes dose the black one from the winch
go to the bat as wall and were dose the little wire go

[mudlva]

kricky its lucky that is not on pirate then ah

anyways back to business

sorry i dont know how to wire it up

[DieselBoy]

:D Thank you all for your halp that makes me happy to here
i bought the right thing
now i just have to figure out what wire goes were
as there is a red lead black lead red tip lead yellow tip lead
and a little black wire and black one from the winch i think i no
were the red and black one goes dose the black one from the winch
go to the bat as wall and were dose the little wire go

Take some pic's of the wire's you have and where they come from off the winch, and i'll go out and try and take some pic's of where they go for ya :

Mudlva, get some details on how ya bro inlaw has wired his 24v winch up, be cool to add that to the Toyota tech section!!!!

[dazza85]

:D Thank you all for your halp that makes me happy to here
i bought the right thing
now i just have to figure out what wire goes were
as there is a red lead black lead red tip lead yellow tip lead
and a little black wire and black one from the winch i think i no
were the red and black one goes dose the black one from the winch
go to the bat as wall and were dose the little wire go

Search is your friend ... look in "Tool Shed" ... There is at least 2 Topics recently Here is one

[fatdog]

earth wire gets hot when winching is this bad

[mudlva]

earth wire gets hot when winching is this bad

yes

leed diameter is to small or a bed conection

[fatdog]

ok must be bad conection

[niblik]

leed diameter is to small or a bed conection

lol... story of my life...

[fatdog]

well here we go again wired it up and it all works apart from now it wont reverse it just klicks iv wired it with red tip on the A. and the yellow tip to the f2. and black tip to f1. well thats all i could find on the net for a worn x9000

[flyingbrick]

Are your solenoids worn too? This could cause your reversing problems. get them looked at and replaced if needed.





-NAthan

[mudlva]

try swaping the F1 and F2 leeds over if the winch then reverses then the solianoid is knakkered this is a good little trick to remember when in the bush as generally the "in" solanoid packs up because it is drawing the big currents all the time swap the leeds over on the winch motor and winch out solanoid is now winch in just be careful as now there is no winch out movement so if you have to reset you might be introuble

cheers

[fatdog]

had another look and dum ars me got A and f1 round wrong way i can see now wy im only a painter
thanks for all your halp every one

[wopass]

wow how did i miss this fun thread

i have to say that DB is correct here and the 80 series winches are 12v due to the only time the vehicle see's 24v is on start when the solinoid switches to provide 24v to the starter. as soon as you turn the key back to run the ENTIRE vehicle is 12v again.

i know some of the 60 series vx cruisers ran a different set up to the 80 series so maybe thats causing some people some confusion...

HOWEVER if you modified the wiring excessivly to have the starter on seperate switch and isolators and relays everywhere then you could run the starter solenoid a 24v winch and bridge the starter off that via another solenoid and then you could have a key start 24v winch that would be mint.... ish

thats just my knowledge base from actually owning and opperating and servicing everything myself ... so im probably completely wrong

[Jungle]

Bloody hell, I can't believe i missed this one too.

I thought it didn't matter which battery you hooked your winch too on an 80 series. Both batteries give you 12 volts from the negative terminal to the positive terminal and the only time you would get 24 volts across the two batteries is on starting. So even if you hooked up the winch across both batteries and remembered not to run the winch and starter motor at the same time you should be fine. Forget that last comment. fizzle fizzle pop!!!

This has been fun.

[evolution02]

the 80 series winches are 24v and are wired to the starter side of the switching relay. so if you wire your winch in the same setup as toyota do the you wilalso have a 24v winch sypply.
that is still far better then a 12v system

No they are FUCKEN NOT !!!!!!!!!

Get your facts straight before you blow the electric's up on this guys truck!!!!!!!

I have a factory winch on my cruiser, it is 12v, as with everyone else's on here.

Don't post unless you know what your talking about FFS

NO 1 Get F---Ked
the starters on the deisels are 24 v with a switching relay to the second battery to get the 24 v system going my bro in laws truck is running a factory winch and its is a 24v motor. I KNOW this because its been into the sparky to get serviced

SO BEFORE YOU LOOSE A VEIN TO ECXCESSIVE BLOOD PREASURE HOW ABOUTS YOU GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT aseWIPE

Now I'm not going to yell and swear like these 2 guys. But am going to clear this up
These Landcruiser are a 12volt system with both batteries in parralel.
Except when starting there is a switching solenoid behind the passengers battery that momentarily changes the batteries into series to put 24volts to the starter motor only and only while cranking. When engine is started system switches back to full 12volts

So any accesories fitted to these vehicles need to be 12v including a winch. And only ever hook to the drivers side battery
Ever notice the extra black cover on the passengers side battery. Leave it there

I'm an auto electrician and work on these vehicles so no what I'm on about. If you think you know better I really dont care as will be more work for me

[NJV6]

Whats a worn winch?

Is it buggered?

[mudlva]

Now I'm not going to yell and swear like these 2 guys. But am going to clear this up
These Landcruiser are a 12volt system with both batteries in parralel.
Except when starting there is a switching solenoid behind the passengers battery that momentarily changes the batteries into series to put 24volts to the starter motor only and only while cranking. When engine is started system switches back to full 12volts

So any accesories fitted to these vehicles need to be 12v including a winch. And only ever hook to the drivers side battery
Ever notice the extra black cover on the passengers side battery. Leave it there

I'm an auto electrician and work on these vehicles so no what I'm on about. If you think you know better I really dont care as will be more work for me [/quote]



kricky we put this too bed months ago
well moved on now

only reasons its back up is that a chap was asking oppions on what winch to use

seems every body now has an answer but who knows
anyways ive gone hydraulic way more fun and if i ran out of power steering fluid i now have a good supply