So confused now?

[DieselBoy]

shouldnt atleast 1 locker be an option regardless of what your going to do considering you say you do some pretty tough stuff.....
fit a auto locker $600 then go from there.

Just so happens that im thinking very seriously about some ARB air lockers have priced some from a place in chch
diff centre, $1250 + Gst
compressor, $350 + Gst, (this is the bigger one,good for tyres aswell)
These are trade prices, are they good prices or can you get better deals than this??

Hi mate, I don't know how to say this with out sounding like a wanker

Fuk it, Im just gonna be a wanker

The above prices you have listed, in fact even normal retail prices are small change compared to what you "could" spend on a coil conversion and axle swap.

What I'm saying is that if you are thinking that the cost of a locker is to high, so a slapping some new axles under it instead is a more cost effective solution, you could well be in for a surprise.

Current prices from parts on T.M and 4WD Bits:

GQ diffs x2 $700
Front radius arms x 2 $150
Rear control arms x4 $80
Decent free wheeling hubs $270
Up graded CV's $2000
Shocks x4 $600
Steering damper $80
Bushes front and rear $300
Springs front and rear $600
Hub rebuild kit $200
Brake system overhaul on axles and modification to fit Hilux $400
Drive shaft mods $600
Cert $600
Plus some more for all the odds and ends, like welding supplies, hundreds of cutting disc's, grinding disc's, lengths of steel for new cross members and mounting brackets, nuts and bolts etc etc $500

So your looking at over $7100 to start with to do it all your self, properly so you have the right springs and shocks and bushes and it all works properly.

I would say thats a conservative estimate.

I know someone that did a coil conversion recently, all done himself, he scrounged alot of stuff, but to do it properly so it worked he spent over $10k and is still ironing out kinks with shocks and springs and the right combination

Another guy started his conversion, and now his truck is a hacked up chassis in his work shop and he hasn't driven it any where for over a year because he just can't quite get it to work right.

Another mate didn't want to splash out on some new springs, so started on a coil conversion, which didn't work, so led to a chassis swap, which cost HEAPS, and soaked up all the play time funds

I have left mine standard with lockers and strengthend CV's and am working on my driving style in an effort to keep things hanging together. I practice geting off the gas if it bounces, lockers in before it gets cross axled. Full throttle when its slippery, cautious if its dry and heaps of traction.

Ok, enough of the negative, just decided on the axles you want and start cutting shit with the grinder and see where you end up

[lexulance]

shouldnt atleast 1 locker be an option regardless of what your going to do considering you say you do some pretty tough stuff.....
fit a auto locker $600 then go from there.

Just so happens that im thinking very seriously about some ARB air lockers have priced some from a place in chch
diff centre, $1250 + Gst
compressor, $350 + Gst, (this is the bigger one,good for tyres aswell)
These are trade prices, are they good prices or can you get better deals than this??

Hi mate, I don't know how to say this with out sounding like a wanker

Fuk it, Im just gonna be a wanker

The above prices you have listed, in fact even normal retail prices are small change compared to what you "could" spend on a coil conversion and axle swap.

What I'm saying is that if you are thinking that the cost of a locker is to high, so a slapping some new axles under it instead is a more cost effective solution, you could well be in for a surprise.

Current prices from parts on T.M and 4WD Bits:

GQ diffs x2 $700
Front radius arms x 2 $150
Rear control arms x4 $80
Decent free wheeling hubs $270
Up graded CV's $2000
Shocks x4 $600
Steering damper $80
Bushes front and rear $300
Springs front and rear $600
Hub rebuild kit $200
Brake system overhaul on axles and modification to fit Hilux $400
Drive shaft mods $600
Cert $600
Plus some more for all the odds and ends, like welding supplies, hundreds of cutting disc's, grinding disc's, lengths of steel for new cross members and mounting brackets, nuts and bolts etc etc $500

So your looking at over $7100 to start with to do it all your self, properly so you have the right springs and shocks and bushes and it all works properly.

I would say thats a conservative estimate.

I know someone that did a coil conversion recently, all done himself, he scrounged alot of stuff, but to do it properly so it worked he spent over $10k and is still ironing out kinks with shocks and springs and the right combination

Another guy started his conversion, and now his truck is a hacked up chassis in his work shop and he hasn't driven it any where for over a year because he just can't quite get it to work right.

Another mate didn't want to splash out on some new springs, so started on a coil conversion, which didn't work, so led to a chassis swap, which cost HEAPS, and soaked up all the play time funds

I have left mine standard with lockers and strengthend CV's and am working on my driving style in an effort to keep things hanging together. I practice geting off the gas if it bounces, lockers in before it gets cross axled. Full throttle when its slippery, cautious if its dry and heaps of traction.

Ok, enough of the negative, just decided on the axles you want and start cutting shit with the grinder and see where you end up

Have considered this, and exactly what your saying is the reason ive decided 2 go the lockers instead
The reason i asked about price is because i simply dont know what to expect price wise?

[turoa]

How do lockers solve ring and pinion issues?

[wopass]

How do lockers solve ring and pinion issues?

R&P failure is normaly due to them doing lots of spinny spinny due to one wheel being off the ground then the wheels getting traction suddenly and then they go bangy bangy smashy smashy grindy crunchy... you know the noise im refering to

lockers prevents this hapening so much

kinda like cv's

edit: i still say scrap it and get a Lada

[lexulance]

How do lockers solve ring and pinion issues?

Theres always one smart arse isnt there?
Lockers mean that when theyre engaged the need for agressive driving in some situations is no longer!!
No agression = bounce bounce grip grip spin spin grip bang crunch crunch is less likely??

[turoa]

cant stop agressive driving cuz, no matter what you'll always wanna hear that 1uz revving its nuts off

[meatc]

On 33s there is little to no way you should be stripping the teeth. (Unless you beig really really mean on tarmac or big rocks.)

Who is puting your diff heads together because I still suggest there is an issue there. Theres are a couple of Winch Challenge trucks around running v8s and 35s (simexs) and the y blow CVs but dont seem to strip teeth. I have heard of a couple of buggies blowing diff heads but they have significant axle hop issues due to suspension set up.

If axle hop is your cause have a look at your suspension set up including any tramp bar. A locker is unlikely to solve the problem for long.

[Bulletproof]

On 33s there is little to no way you should be stripping the teeth. (Unless you beig really really mean on tarmac or big rocks.)

Who is puting your diff heads together because I still suggest there is an issue there. Theres are a couple of Winch Challenge trucks around running v8s and 35s (simexs) and the y blow CVs but dont seem to strip teeth. I have heard of a couple of buggies blowing diff heads but they have significant axle hop issues due to suspension set up.

If axle hop is your cause have a look at your suspension set up including any tramp bar. A locker is unlikely to solve the problem for long.

X2 Well said.

I have never blown a diff on 35s with the supercharger.

Cheers Richard

[DieselBoy]

Shit, didn't realise he was running 33's!!!!!!

In that on top of the $7100 for the axle swap, factor in a set of 35's as you will get stuck EVERYWHERE with GQ diffs and 33's.

So thats another $2000 for a set of centipedes, brings the total to $9200.

I also didn't factor in an IFS steering box and custom steering links, so maybe another $500 in parts and manufacturing there.

Its getting real close to that $10,000 mark