Electric or PTO winch?

[pruggerdore]

Are you wanting for an original fj40 gearbox? That requires a different drive unit to the split transfer case on the 60-70 series dosnt it? Im sure it does as I have both here

If you've read my build thread you'll know I'm running a 70 series 5 speed box in my 40.

I'm putting the truck on the hoist tomorrow just to see if there is enough room to mount one. I have a spare pto to use to do the check with.

Yea Im getting around to reading your build thread but the 80 pages of it scared me a bit.

[mudtroll]

Isn't the shear pin supposed to be the weak point so it breaks rather than your shaft or internals?

Has anyone who's gone to a bigger pin destroyed something else on their winch, or were the manufacturers just being extra careful putting smaller ones in there from factory?

I got sick of proper shear pins breaking, usually in a big mud hole so have put a 8.8 high tensile bolt in the back & a 4.8 in the front. Have still managed to shear both bolts but they last a lot longer than shear pins. Haven't broken anything else, yet, except my winch wire ( damaged previously). Mate wrecked the drive in the gearbox, twice, he was using shear pins.

[petefj40]

Are you wanting for an original fj40 gearbox? That requires a different drive unit to the split transfer case on the 60-70 series dosnt it? Im sure it does as I have both here

If you've read my build thread you'll know I'm running a 70 series 5 speed box in my 40.

I'm putting the truck on the hoist tomorrow just to see if there is enough room to mount one. I have a spare pto to use to do the check with.

Yea Im getting around to reading your build thread but the 80 pages of it scared me a bit.

[wopass]

Yea Im getting around to reading your build thread but the 80 pages of it scared me a bit.

if you just skim thru and look at the pictures its ok, kinda like a porno mag, pictures are important

the rest is just blah blah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah PORNO PIC blah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blah blah PORNO PIC

[Twodiffs]

Hi all

I've pulled the bars off for respraying and i've got this idea about the winch while it's off. These pto's can get gunk stuck in the shaft making freespool impossible.

What do people think about drillling and tapping a thread into the spot marked in red...say a 4-6mm hole in which a bung could be fitted. Then every month or so I could unscrew the bung...tip in some fine oil or lubricant...give the winch a spin on freespool and presto..

Would be keen to know what people think???

[coxsy]

reasonable idea long as it dos'nt weaken the drum

[Landynut]

even better drill and tap it, and put a grease nipple in it...
high pressure grease will push all the gunk out, and lubricate it too.........

[Landynut]

interesting read in this thread..... im still working on a wee idea i had some time ago.. since I had several spare chainsaws lying around doing nothing i thought "why not build a portable winch, powerful enough to pull out anything that the steel rope will handle, and yet light and small enough to keep in a relatively small tool chest on the back, and carry to where it will be used..."

the result, planetary gears on a spool driven off a 52cc chainsaw pto..............
basically the spool will have a wishbone off the axle to connect to the strop round a tree, so its only putting pressure on a 16mm axle, the chainsaw is basically off to one side and wont be affected by the weight on it......

any angle, any situation, no need for the vehicles engine to be running and no need for bigger or duel batteries......

still trying to work out the planetary gears I will use.... thinking somewhere along the lines of 256:1 with a ratchet locking system on the spool.... only problem i can forsee is that chainsaws cant run backwards, you will just have to turn the spool manually with a big bar to unlock the ratchet to spool it out (if theres weight on it)
with no weight on it, it should spool out easily.....

PATENT PENDING! haha

[mudlva]

interesting read in this thread..... im still working on a wee idea i had some time ago.. since I had several spare chainsaws lying around doing nothing i thought "why not build a portable winch, powerful enough to pull out anything that the steel rope will handle, and yet light and small enough to keep in a relatively small tool chest on the back, and carry to where it will be used..."

the result, planetary gears on a spool driven off a 52cc chainsaw pto..............
basically the spool will have a wishbone off the axle to connect to the strop round a tree, so its only putting pressure on a 16mm axle, the chainsaw is basically off to one side and wont be affected by the weight on it......

any angle, any situation, no need for the vehicles engine to be running and no need for bigger or duel batteries......

still trying to work out the planetary gears I will use.... thinking somewhere along the lines of 256:1 with a ratchet locking system on the spool.... only problem i can forsee is that chainsaws cant run backwards, you will just have to turn the spool manually with a big bar to unlock the ratchet to spool it out (if theres weight on it)
with no weight on it, it should spool out easily.....

PATENT PENDING! haha

yip seen it done a few years back on a trip over at kiangaroa (haha useless maori my spelling ah) worked mint best i could tell

skid on hear should or will know of it
the trip was a couple of years back doing a winter tough truck fund raiser thingy

[NJV6]

Pretty common in the jetboat scene too.

[Landynut]

awww damn, and here I was thinking I was being unique and ingenius !!!
way to burst my bubble guys

so much for kiwi ingenuity . .

[Twodiffs]

reasonable idea long as it dos'nt weaken the drum

Yeah that was what I was thinking, would need to keep it as small as possible. You've had yours apart coxsy? is there a seal or o ring of any kind on the drum ends or is it just a drum on the shaft?

The grease nipple idea is feasible...might just work

[Landynut]

reasonable idea long as it dos'nt weaken the drum

Yeah that was what I was thinking, would need to keep it as small as possible. You've had yours apart coxsy? is there a seal or o ring of any kind on the drum ends or is it just a drum on the shaft?

The grease nipple idea is feasible...might just work

it would be mint if you have access to an air greaser

i use an air greaser to fill up my swivel pin housings etc because i cant be bothered fixing leaks
rather than getting oil in the bearings now i get extra grease in the bearings ! haha 'ohhh nooo!'

[GQTROL]

Regarding drilling and tapping the drum for a grease nipple...dont bother. Too much grease in this area creates too much resistance to freespool it. Just spray some Lithium grease on the shaft or the bronze bush when re-assembling it and leave it at that.

There are no seals or o-rings on the drum.

[Twodiffs]

Ok cheers for that gqtrol, I'll probably completely dismantle it next weekend, clean it and reassemble. If I make the effort of pulling the rope off once a month and just giving it a whirl then I shouldn't have any issues after that.

Maybe it just needs a GOOD degunk...never had probs with my first Nissan pto.

Cheers guys.